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    As long as locals rant and grumble in various Internet forums (just like what you all have done here), to the newspapers, in radio talk and TV interview shows, to each other on the MRT, in the office, market, eating places....the powerful will heave a sigh of relief.

    More of the same coffee shop curses and complaints.
    Typical Singaporean.
    Good.
    They are letting off steam and will forget in 2 weeks.

    But if there is no response.
    All is quiet.
    Then they worry.

    It means people are silently furious and not forgetting.
    In Transactional Analysis terms, it is called Collecting Red Stamps.
    At one point, called the tipping point, it will explode. Hopefully not around election.
    Last edited by ricohflex; 9th April 2007 at 11:09 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by night86mare View Post
    That is not what he said.

    Read it again, nothing about maintaining any standard of living. After all, if one wants to use extreme logic to argue his case, one must be prepared to accept extreme (and probably equally ridiculous) logic of the other scale in answer!
    Did he say he finds passion in carrying your tripod and to drive you around?

    Do you really undersatnd what Deap pixel is trying to say?
    Last edited by Silence Sky; 9th April 2007 at 11:11 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by night86mare View Post
    Orly.

    Ok, I pay him $2 every hour. After all, he should be motivated by some other purpose than money. Don't tell me $2 per hour isn't enough, can buy one plate of chicken rice every hour.

    Your logic, not mine!
    To SlienceSky: Since when is Singapore is a demoncratic society ?

    Anyway, their current salary not enuff to motivate them ?

    What is the reason that they need more money to get themselves to work harder for the

    pride of the nation and ppl ???


    How do you feel when you see old man and woman well into their retire age still trying to

    make a living by cleaning toliets and clearing coffeeshop tables ? As well as well educated

    man in their late forties driving taxis just because they cant find jobs becuz of their age and

    also young, supposingly promising graduates standing around PC shows, shopping malls and

    MRT stations pulling ppl trying to sell them insurances?

    Naturally some of us feel sad for these grp of ppl, something is wrong and this shouldnt be a

    common sight in spore. But as for those ppl, they don't feel sad or shameful, they cant

    afford to. To earn MORE MONEY is the motivation that drives each and every of them to

    continue carrying the lives they are leading now.


    Thou telling us u need more money to motivate youself to make their lives better.


    This is better than <<<<TRIPLE KILL>>>>

    This is GODLIKE OWNAGE....

    You pawn us now, 4 years later........







    We still kenna pawned !!!




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    Quote Originally Posted by night86mare View Post
    I assume you are motivated by a greater purpose than money.

    Tomorrow you will report to my address and work for joy, happiness. No pay. Please help me carry my tripods and drive me around on photo expeditions. After all you do not worship the normal god! =D
    Actually I'm not motivated by any high purpose but I'm definitely not motivated by money. You really don't know me, but since you frequent the IR Forum and probably have gone on outings with them, you might find it refreshing to ask the 'pioneers' about me and IR camera conversions and working for money.

    As for working, no I don't work for happines and joy, I live in the real world and work to live, not work to rape everyone of everything.

    _
    Last edited by deadpixel; 9th April 2007 at 11:11 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silence Sky View Post
    Did he say he finds passion in carrying your tripod and to drive you around?

    Do you really undersatnd what Deap pixel is try to say?
    Yeah, that we must not worship the money god. Simple.

    Do you really understand what George Orwell is trying to say? That is the bigger question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ricohflex View Post
    As long as locals rant and grumble in various Internet forums (just like what you all have done here), to the newspapers, in radio talk and TV interview shows, to each other on the MRT, in the office, market, eating places....the powerful will heave a sigh of relief.

    More of the same coffee shop curses and complaints.
    Typical Singaporean.
    Good.
    They are letting off steam and will forget in 2 weeks.

    But if there is no response.
    All is quiet.
    Then they worry.

    It means people are silently furious and not forgetting.
    In Transactional Analysis terms, it is called Collecting Red Stamps.
    At one point , called the tipping point, it will explode. Hopefully not around election.
    CPF Top-Up, NSS, Growth Dividends... these quick release valves are activated once every four to five years, so no danger of pressure overload.

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    Quote Originally Posted by night86mare View Post
    Yeah, that we must not worship the money god. Simple.

    Do you really understand what George Orwell is trying to say? That is the bigger question.
    Orwell was trying to say four legs good, two legs bad.

    But eight legs best... oh wait, that's a different farm...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Static View Post
    How do you feel when you see old man and woman well into their retire age still trying to make a living by cleaning toliets and clearing coffeeshop tables ? As well as well educated man in their late forties driving taxis just because they cant find jobs becuz of their age and also young, supposing promising graduates standing around PC shows, shopping malls and MRT stations pulling ppl trying to sell them insurances?

    Naturally some of us feel sad for these grp of ppl, something is wrong and this shouldnt be a
    common sight in spore. But as for those ppl, they don't feel sad or shameful, they cant afford to. To earn MORE MONEY is the motivation that drives each and every of them to continue carrying the lives they are leading now.
    When I see the people from my generation spending big money on all sorts of things, like dyeing their hair, etc.. Buying small useless barang barangs which will be discarded sooner or later after years of neglect.. I see a future where there will be a lot more old men and women well into their retired ages doing that.

    Life is all about planning, and while I do not deny (note, I already said I do not hor) that there are people who did not really have a say in their plight right now, what other solution would you suggest? For every toilet cleaner uncle, there will be a certain number of people who will come up with sob stories to try to get aid as well when they want to feed various habits like smoking and drinking or gambling or what not. And that is the truth of life. People lie.

    It is definitely very easy to be an armchair critic and say

    I CAN DO THE JOB BETTER IF YOU GAVE IT TO ME

    But is it really that easy? Pay is never really justifiable. If we were really paid the amount of money we generate for our company, you can forget about buying even a Pentax K100D, thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sion View Post
    If don't paid well, he will be Tu Lan. Like that how to govern well?
    There's a big difference in being paid well and being paid so much that he can afford to burn real money as hell money during the seventh lunar month.

    _

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    Quote Originally Posted by drakon09 View Post
    Orwell was trying to say four legs good, two legs bad.

    But eight legs best... oh wait, that's a different farm...


    No, eight legs die for four legs leh!

    FOUR LEGS STILL BEST! STUPID CHARLOTTE!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sion View Post
    If don't paid well, he will be Tu Lan. Like that how to govern well?
    Looks like they have to pay president Bush much better, cause he makes a mess out of it right now! :-)

    Poor guy, paid so little......

    HS

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    Quote Originally Posted by deadpixel View Post
    Actually I'm not motivated by any high purpose but I'm definitely not motivated by money. You really don't know me, but since you frequent the IR Forum and probably have gone on outings with them, you might find it refreshing to ask the 'pioneers' about me and IR camera conversions and working for money.

    As for working, no I don't work for happines and joy, I live in the real world and work to live, not work to rape everyone of everything.

    _
    Yes, I don't know you, and I don't need to ask people about anyone.

    I believe in forming opinions of a person by MYSELF, and I have not judged you in any way. It is simply a pastime to simply refute people with the same logic that they have applied to a subject. And usually, they are not happy, and I can't see why! I mean, if you can put it one way, why can't you accept the exact reverse when I throw it back at you, in your own context?

    I do not mean to offend anyone, simply expressing my opinions, if I mean to offend you can probably sense it very easily, it will not be just in jest. Acidness is very easy to dish out.

    In short, lesser of two evils, which would you have?

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    Quote Originally Posted by drakon09 View Post
    Spend half his working hours collecting kopi lui loh...
    Then people will be Tu Lan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deadpixel View Post
    There's a big difference in being paid well and being paid so much that he can afford to burn real money as hell money during the seventh lunar month.

    _
    That's against the Law...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hongsien View Post
    Looks like they have to pay president Bush much better, cause he makes a mess out of it right now! :-)

    Poor guy, paid so little......

    HS
    Yet he spoils so much.. =(

    Ends up costing people families, money and lives, among other things. And drains the coffers to play with his toy soldiers.

    Oh, wait, but America voted for him. I wonder why no one blames the voters.

    (And yes, read between the lines)

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    Guys,

    seems like this threat is getting more heat up. Chill man

    In my view, I feel that everything in life is destined to happened. What really matter is how much you treasure your belonging and people around you. It is true that money makes the world goes round. But at the end of the day, are you happy with what you have?

    We like to take photo and enjoy our own work. We have people who we love and people who love us. These few factors are priceless.

    Let's take one example. If you have the money but you are alone without camera and people who you need. Will you be happy.

    My purpose is to hope that you guys will calm down and not be too "heat up" with what had happened.

    Chill Out Guys !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Static View Post
    To SlienceSky: Since when is Singapore is a demoncratic society ?

    Anyway, their current salary not enuff to motivate them ?

    What is the reason that they need more money to get themselves to work harder for the

    pride of the nation and ppl ???
    hahah.. I never mentioned that Singapore is a demoncratic society.

    What reason?? Answer is simple "Greed".
    Last edited by Silence Sky; 9th April 2007 at 11:25 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drakon09 View Post
    Orwell was trying to say four legs good, two legs bad.
    Someone came after Orwell by the name of Manfrotto who said, " 3 legs best."


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    Quote Originally Posted by night86mare View Post
    Yet he spoils so much.. =(

    Ends up costing people families, money and lives, among other things. And drains the coffers to play with his toy soldiers.

    Oh, wait, but America voted for him. I wonder why no one blames the voters.

    (And yes, read between the lines)
    Because the voters pay taxes loh, and you NEVER blame the one that brings home the bacon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sion View Post
    Someone came after Orwell by the name of Manfrotto who said, " 3 legs best."


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