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    http://newpaper.asia1.com.sg/printfr...126161,00.html
    http://spawnily.livejournal.com/413020.html

    Any views about this incident?

    This airport security thing is going overboard.

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    i think from now onwards, you have to erase certain words from your vocabulary when you travel by air.
    dunno what is this world coming to....
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    Default Re: 'Bomb in boots' comment causes family to miss holiday

    Quote Originally Posted by mervlam View Post
    http://newpaper.asia1.com.sg/printfr...126161,00.html
    http://spawnily.livejournal.com/413020.html

    Any views about this incident?

    This airport security thing is going overboard.
    well... alot of things have been going overboard....

    not only the airport nowadays.... i dunno what the garment is doing also....

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    I had a pair of boots that had metal heel supports, set off many security scanners..
    Ended up kena checked every time, walking through scanners with my socks only..
    Kinda gave up travelling with that pair after a while..

    But then I somehow always get the "random" security check..
    Must be my friendly smile and sunny disposition.. NOT!

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    actually i think the people there are pretty simple minded, like a program with yes/no answer...

    but when u think deeper... will a person carrying a bomb, intending to hijack or blow up a plane, publicly say he have a bomb before boarding the plane? (perhaps after this, someone might)
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    The security personels involved in this incident, if their actions were indeed as described, should be fired. There are no 2 ways about it. If the policy said if certain words were said twice, the utterer of said words must be detained, then, the policy write's head should be examined, then fired.

    Security is very important, but this episode actually made a mockery of security.
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    Rampant paranoia?

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    Quote Originally Posted by creampuff View Post
    Rampant paranoia?
    The problem is, you give people with limited mental capacity so much authority, they will mis-use and abuse it.
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    1) In other languages, there maybe a word that sound like "bomb" but dun mean "bomb", then how?

    2) If reading a magazine aloud on "sex bomb", "nuclear bomb", "bombing of hiroshima", will kenna or not?

    3) "Bomb" may not be the only word that cannot say. If someone else say something else but didn't know how? eg are these words banned too: "hijack", "osama", "grenade", "guns"?

    Can we reuqest the security dept what's the list of banned words? or else someone else kenna again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul_Yeo View Post
    1) In other languages, there maybe a word that sound like "bomb" but dun mean "bomb", then how?

    2) If reading a magazine aloud on "sex bomb", "nuclear bomb", "bombing of hiroshima", will kenna or not?

    3) "Bomb" may not be the only word that cannot say. If someone else say something else but didn't know how? eg are these words banned too: "hijack", "osama", "grenade", "guns"?

    Can we reuqest the security dept what's the list of banned words? or else someone else kenna again.
    True story I witnessed. It was in San Francisco International Airport May 2002. I was behind a woman and a little boy, waiting to check in. Bear in mind, we are operating under super paranoia at the time. Back then, it was a required practice for the check in staff to ask question regarding are you carrying any prohibited items, explosive, guns etc etc with you. I agree, it's stupid questions, but i was asked those questions hundreds of times.

    Well, this woman, by now, agitated, for what I have no idea, but answered the question by saying, something like... if I were carrying these items, will I tell you, what stupid questions are these. I remember the "stupid" commets. The check in agent continued to process her check in, but I observed, she was stalling. Within minutes, 3 guys and 1 woman in dark suit showed up, the woman and her kid was escorted away.

    No scene, no comotion, but we standing behind had a good laugh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deadpoet View Post
    The problem is, you give people with limited mental capacity so much authority, they will mis-use and abuse it.
    I totally agree with you. The security personnels act like robot; I think they do not want to take the responsibility of making good & sensible judgement on their own. Simply lazy.

    Are these people losing their own sense of basic intelligence? Or Are they just following the 'Ten Commandments' of the higher authorities?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deadpoet View Post
    True story I witnessed. It was in San Francisco International Airport May 2002. I was behind a woman and a little boy, waiting to check in. Bear in mind, we are operating under super paranoia at the time. Back then, it was a required practice for the check in staff to ask question regarding are you carrying any prohibited items, explosive, guns etc etc with you. I agree, it's stupid questions, but i was asked those questions hundreds of times.

    Well, this woman, by now, agitated, for what I have no idea, but answered the question by saying, something like... if I were carrying these items, will I tell you, what stupid questions are these. I remember the "stupid" commets. The check in agent continued to process her check in, but I observed, she was stalling. Within minutes, 3 guys and 1 woman in dark suit showed up, the woman and her kid was escorted away.

    No scene, no comotion, but we standing behind had a good laugh.

    Haha, good one there, just follow what they want and get on the plane. Something so simple yet she must make it big.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnlim View Post
    I totally agree with you. The security personnels act like robot; I think they do not want to take the responsibility of making good & sensible judgement on their own. Simply lazy.

    Are these people losing their own sense of basic intelligence? Or Are they just following the 'Ten Commandments' of the higher authorities?
    I hate to say it, but hey, I am never politically correct. I think it's the people hired. They are just not that "endowed" between the ears.

    I believe the best security of all airports is Heathrew. Now, personally, I hate Heathrew. It's a complete mess. But I am always impress with the efficiency and thoroughness of the security system there. Ok, the staffs at the x-ray scanners and the metal detectators are the same caliber as those everywhere else. However, there is a very clearcut and immediate escalation protocol, which I'd observed over the years flying in and out of Heathrew, that made the system work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ally View Post
    I had a pair of boots that had metal heel supports, set off many security scanners..
    Ended up kena checked every time, walking through scanners with my socks only..
    Kinda gave up travelling with that pair after a while..

    But then I somehow always get the "random" security check..
    Must be my friendly smile and sunny disposition.. NOT!
    I've been travelling with SAF gortex boots all the while and after my 1st trip with them, realising that the metal lace straps could set off metal detectors, I'd always make it a special point to take off my shoes 3 ppl BEFORE my turn and put them into the X-ray scanner.

    Ditto for my tripod bag and laptop. These 3 always go into the scanner first followed by everything else, wallet, watch, belt and so-on.

    So far I'd only been stopped once, when I forgot to take my iPod outta my pocket. But no problems, no fuss.

    I guess ultimately its all about giving security personnels a peace of mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul_Yeo View Post
    1) In other languages, there maybe a word that sound like "bomb" but dun mean "bomb", then how?

    2) If reading a magazine aloud on "sex bomb", "nuclear bomb", "bombing of hiroshima", will kenna or not?

    3) "Bomb" may not be the only word that cannot say. If someone else say something else but didn't know how? eg are these words banned too: "hijack", "osama", "grenade", "guns"?

    Can we reuqest the security dept what's the list of banned words? or else someone else kenna again.
    Go ahead and request.

    Try to act smart and not on common sense and see what happens.

    And I thought everyone was born with something called common sense. Apparently not. Some have to be spoonfed with it. *sob-sob* There goes our education system.

    Anyway Paul, if u go overseas the next time, try to read Tennozan, Battle of Okinawa and said how marvelous it is for the States to BOMB Hiroshima with an Atom BOMB and the fact that they BLASTED hiroshima into OBLIVION with just a single BOMB to prevent ANNIHILATION of the landing US Marines with their HEAVY WEAPONS.

    U try it and tell us the experience. I'd certainly like to know it.
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    In my field of work we constantly refer to the "bill of material" (aka parts list), and use BOM as the short form.

    Imagine on a flight me and my colleague talk to each other about work...

    "Hey, have you brought the BOM with you?"
    "Yes, it is in my suitcase."
    "Is it active?"
    "Yes, latest version."
    As complexity rises, precise statements lose meaning and meaningful statements lose precision.

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    "did you bring the BOM*?"
    "yups.. the BOM is in my briefcase"

    BOM at my workplace is a very common word. If it's illegal... then siao liao....



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    Quote Originally Posted by Deadpoet View Post
    True story I witnessed. It was in San Francisco International Airport May 2002. I was behind a woman and a little boy, waiting to check in. Bear in mind, we are operating under super paranoia at the time. Back then, it was a required practice for the check in staff to ask question regarding are you carrying any prohibited items, explosive, guns etc etc with you. I agree, it's stupid questions, but i was asked those questions hundreds of times.

    Well, this woman, by now, agitated, for what I have no idea, but answered the question by saying, something like... if I were carrying these items, will I tell you, what stupid questions are these. I remember the "stupid" commets. The check in agent continued to process her check in, but I observed, she was stalling. Within minutes, 3 guys and 1 woman in dark suit showed up, the woman and her kid was escorted away.

    No scene, no comotion, but we standing behind had a good laugh.
    U forget to add, "Probably zero apologies on the security personnel's part as well."

    Laugh it out my friend, but I believe u'd heard this question before, "Has anyone or anybody touched your luggage prior to your travel?" as well as "Did you pack your own luggage or anyone packed your luggage for you? How can you be sure of this?"

    Stupid questions to most of u right? There's a real life case to back up da justification of these 2 questions BTW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roygoh View Post
    In my field of work we constantly refer to the "bill of material" (aka parts list), and use BOM as the short form.

    Imagine on a flight me and my colleague talk to each other about work...

    "Hey, have you brought the BOM with you?"
    "Yes, it is in my suitcase."
    "Is it active?"
    "Yes, latest version."
    hi 5! you posted just before me. hahahah
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