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Old 3rd April 2007   #1
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Default It is April! and April is the time for R4

So... when is the new guy coming to town?
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Old 3rd April 2007   #2
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chiff, the dealer, said his shipment will arrive in mid april
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OK... since you ask for it... you get it...





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Old 3rd April 2007   #5
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I find the numbers 21 25 28 35 50 very seductive.
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Old 5th April 2007   #6
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Is Bessa's shutter generally louder or softer compares to Yashica Electro 35's shutter?
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Is Bessa's shutter generally louder or softer compares to Yashica Electro 35's shutter?
Can't compare with the leaf shutter, which is built on the lens. It's totally different technology.

But compare other metal shutter, the Bessa is considered very good. Personally, I would say, it's just a little louder than the M6 and it's quieter than the M8.
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R4M or R4A, Please help to explain.
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Old 5th April 2007   #9
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R4A - It's a rangefinder camera with has the Auto-Exposure settings +A+ mode. When set to the "A" mode, the camera will auto-select a shutter speed that best correspond to the aperture setting with the right light meter reading. Example, on a bright sunny day, if you set your aperture to f5.6, the light meter reads best corresponding shutter speed is 1/250, then the camera will Auto select the shutter speed 1/250 when you press the shutter release.

Since the shutter is electronically controlled, the camera needs battery to work. No battery, no fire.


R4M - Full manual. No Auto-Exposure settings. Does not depend on battery to work. Only needs battery for light meter to work.


Hope I've explained in the most layman term.

Depending on your needs, choose a body that most fits you. The R4M is more for photographers who are more seasoned in manual controls. Not that setting aperture and shutter speed is rocket science, when the photographer is on the move, speed is important, able to set the settings correctly and shoot comfortably with a full manual body, needs some skill.

The R4A is a easier camera to use. If you are not the type who wants to worry too much about settings, just want to capture the moment, at the same time want the flexibility to choose which settings to use (manual over ride), then R4A is for you.

If you are a infrequent shooter, just like to collect camera bodies, just like to feel and hold the camera and only shoot with your D200 or 5D, then the R4M is a better choice. WHY? A full mechanical manual body normally holds better value than a camera with electronic components 30 years down the road.
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Just curious, why is it that Cosina wants to make bodies of different furnish? In this case R4M and R4A? Or just to seduce Voigtlander supporters to get both!? : D
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You are totally correct, Fuwen.... it's all about marketing.

If you touch and feel the R3A, you will understand why... it's pretty nice to hold and has that "East German" military look & feel....

Parlin loves his grey R2A....
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I'm pleased to announce the R4M & R4A will be available from 12 April 2007, Thursday noon.

For those who want to take a look or pick it up, please give me a ring to make an appointment. Price has not changed, please refer to my web site for the detail pricing.

Thanks!
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wah.....poison have arrived....
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Interested in both Bessa R4A and Voigtlander 25/4 P (Leica M mount ; Rangefinder coupled!). Time to review if I got sufficient budget for the purchase. Is the Voigtlander 25/4 P (Leica M mount ; Rangefinder coupled!) in stock too?
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The 25/f4 & 21/f4 Pancakes not here yet. Will only be here earliest this Summer, June 07.
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R4M or R4A, Please help to explain.

When you are in a middle of no where in Africa, would you be mad if you need to replace the flat battery when you are in the midst of shooting something interesting or important? Let alone finding someone to sell you a new battery.
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