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    Quote Originally Posted by Wisdomworld View Post
    Well, at the end of the day it is your attitude and your focus that's matters. If you always focus at the negative side of life, life will be really negative because you feed your subconscious mind with "bad food".

    But if you are willing to open your heart and mind... take an effort to do some read up, things might change.
    I hope that things had changed for u... Especially for ur wallet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by docdeng View Post
    WORDS TO THE WISE. If it's too good to be true - it's usually not. Moreover if it involves your health or your loved one's, always rely on your Doctor.
    Ditto.

    Our knowledge of medicine are all but limited and medical doctors who had obviously studied IN-DEPTH (can't say so for quack doctors) can't say that they have a 'cure-all' solution.

    Where health's concerned, I'd trust the good doctor. The rest can simply get a good dose of ammonia outta my rear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FOCUSNAP View Post
    Anybody knows what's the difference between this and other 'water' brands like Japin, Diamond, Amway,etc.. Have different friends and relatives using the J, D, and A products and they all say that theirs good.

    I wonder if they are really worth buying, ie value for money. The prices range usu between S$1200 - 1900. Not cheap.
    Reminds me of a story where a seller of shields and spears claimed that his spear is so strong that its unbreakable and his shield is so tough that its unbreakable.

    Someone suggested striking his spear against his shield.

    Well u get the drift.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Octane69 View Post
    Docdeng, in reply to your post above, its not that i endorse nor is it that i am even promoting this device or anyother, i have seen my sister suffer from her allegies and whatsoever for the longest time. And somehow it really helped her. Anyway, at the end of the day, whatever works for whatever reason it works is good enough for me. I believe the skin allergies are still a very broad topic that the medical world has no explaniation for alot of?
    There's a scientific term for it..... "Placebo Effect".

    BTW, practising doctors would have heard abt a particular brand of eyedrops that can actually CURE MYOPHIA and how they actually did studies on this.

    "Test Group, Control Group". I guess most ppl here are educated enuff to heard of these 2 terms when they are doing their experiments to verify something when they are schooling.

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    To those who are so for MLM.... I ask you for one favour...

    Dont tell me about all the success stories you hear at talks, dont tell me about the hawker, pri 6 educated uncle or rubbish cleaner whom you met at some seminar wearing a suit and standing on a stage and telling you how MLM has made him or her rich. About how being a distributor is the way to go and telling you to be like them.

    Dont tell me about the success stories told to you by your so called mentors and seniors.

    I want you to tell me about how MLM has improved your finances, how MLM has given you a better life financially.

    Believe me I have seen so many MLMs come and go... I have also seen how MLM is like a cult, the founders are the false prophets, the God is money. Seminars are emotional with shouting and crying like a religious procession. Promises of richness and wealth. And the poor folk hoping everything they will become rich.... and the founders are laughing their way to the bank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by docdeng View Post
    Dear Armadillo,

    This is another scam device. It again claims to cure all things. Riding again on changing acidic blood to alkaline blahblah.

    The body has its own mechanism to maintain equilibrium or balance. Alakalinity in the blood is definitely NOT also beneficial since our cells cannot function in this environment. Diseases like allergy are not caused by simple alterations in blood pH (acidosis or alkalosis). If you're sick, it does not mean your blood turns acidic or alkaline. There are also many causes of allergies.

    I know you love your child very much. So I think the best option is to seek a doctor specialist in allergy (ALLERGOLOGIST). They will do some test and find what are the stuff your child is allergic to.

    Things like these always put testaments by certain persons about effectivity. BUT they never say what are the SIDE EFFECTS. "Just try and see how" principle is NO NO.

    I seem to be very adamant on this matter because we have seen a lot of patients who are now having complications from traditional medicines they have taken.


    Again, rather than wasting money on these devices please just use it to consult a specialist.
    The final decision lies on you.

    Regards,
    docdeng
    Thanks again for your info.
    Actually I hv visitted many doctor & sinseh. Even KK hospital specialist, but they just give more and more medicine. For a while ok, but then back again. Most doctor say just hv to wait for her to out grow of it.
    That is why I found other alternative

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    I don't trust MLMs... if it's so good, why isn't the product mainstream, used by hospitals, sold in pharmacies and stuff?

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    Because selling drugs is more profitable than selling health supplements.

    BTW, just a reminder that we are living in 21st Century of 20th Century. Business model can be very difference.

    Just like in the early 90's, people laughing at e-commerce. Look at the successful companies like Ebay, Amazon and many more!

    See things not just the micro side but the macro side as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by redstone View Post
    I don't trust MLMs... if it's so good, why isn't the product mainstream, used by hospitals, sold in pharmacies and stuff?
    Last edited by Wisdomworld; 29th March 2007 at 05:37 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Octane69 View Post
    Docdeng, in reply to your post above, its not that i endorse nor is it that i am even promoting this device or anyother, i have seen my sister suffer from her allegies and whatsoever for the longest time. And somehow it really helped her. Anyway, at the end of the day, whatever works for whatever reason it works is good enough for me. I believe the skin allergies are still a very broad topic that the medical world has no explaniation for alot of?
    Hi Octane69,

    I didn't intend to put a quote on you as endorsing the product. My apologies if it had offended you in a way.

    Indeed you are right in saying that not all can be explained with medicine. There are even instances when the therapeutic effect of a drug may just be due to placebo effect. Sometimes it may also a "mind over matter" - if a sick patient thinks that he will get better then he will.

    We cannot blame others for searching alternative treatment for whatever its worth.
    My only concern is to be cautious of possible side effects of these alternative treatments.

    Cheers!

    docdeng
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    Quote Originally Posted by Octane69 View Post
    Docdeng, in reply to your post above, its not that i endorse nor is it that i am even promoting this device or anyother, i have seen my sister suffer from her allegies and whatsoever for the longest time. And somehow it really helped her. Anyway, at the end of the day, whatever works for whatever reason it works is good enough for me. I believe the skin allergies are still a very broad topic that the medical world has no explaniation for alot of?
    Placebo effect?? Could be....

    ANyway, any credibility went out the window when you start reading things like 5th Dimension and Paranormal Waves....

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    Quote Originally Posted by armadillo View Post
    Thanks again for your info.
    Actually I hv visitted many doctor & sinseh. Even KK hospital specialist, but they just give more and more medicine. For a while ok, but then back again. Most doctor say just hv to wait for her to out grow of it.
    That is why I found other alternative
    I totally understand your predicament and sentiments. Just bear in mind to think of side effects first rather than possible benefits of alternative treatment.

    My niece also had skin asthma when she was small and now she's taller than me and skin is flawless.

    Cheers!
    docdeng
    Last edited by docdeng; 29th March 2007 at 05:36 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by armadillo View Post
    Hi everyone,

    Ever heard of this device?
    Seem very interesting concept
    Because my daughter have skin allergic and sinus problem, not sure if this device can really help

    Please share if you have any experience, the testimonial sound very good
    I hope this is not a scam
    This isn't a scam. We have it and are using it in our salon. In fact, I know someone on their testimonials page who is very credible, and he have some info about the device here:
    http://www.royalrife.com/hepatitis-c.html ;
    http://www.royalrife.com/members/pyro-energen.html

    I have seen many forums coming out with this kind of topic. One I was shocked http://www.xtrememind.com/phpbb/view...f9e11ccc381e71

    Maybe that will clear some confusions.

    Being a member of the rife-list group and other alternative medicine message boards, I have already seen several amazing medicines and products. And yes, many are indeed scam (many times I became victim of amazing pills and herbs). But sometimes, just like what satay16 said, among thousands, there is one genuine. I can't blame others opinion, in reality, it's really difficult to know if an unknown product is genuine or not. You'll need to do tremendous amount of research, or the riskiest, to buy the product itself. The best is recommendation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zplus View Post
    Placebo effect?? Could be....

    ANyway, any credibility went out the window when you start reading things like 5th Dimension and Paranormal Waves....
    dunno leh... but most important thing is.. she is ok now... and the 5th dimension thingy one is the ultraman shockwave electricity one lah... this one is drink water only

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    Quote Originally Posted by yagami-kira View Post
    This isn't a scam. We have it and are using it in our salon. In fact, I know someone on their testimonials page who is very credible, and he have some info about the device here:
    http://www.royalrife.com/hepatitis-c.html ;
    http://www.royalrife.com/members/pyro-energen.html

    I have seen many forums coming out with this kind of topic. One I was shocked http://www.xtrememind.com/phpbb/view...f9e11ccc381e71

    Maybe that will clear some confusions.

    Being a member of the rife-list group and other alternative medicine message boards, I have already seen several amazing medicines and products. And yes, many are indeed scam (many times I became victim of amazing pills and herbs). But sometimes, just like what satay16 said, among thousands, there is one genuine. I can't blame others opinion, in reality, it's really difficult to know if an unknown product is genuine or not. You'll need to do tremendous amount of research, or the riskiest, to buy the product itself. The best is recommendation.
    Maybe you can point me to research articles published in a respectable international peer-reviewed journal (Science, Nature to name a couple) about the use and effectiveness of this therapy.

    BTW, I will do my own research for my own health benefits, and so should everyone else.
    Saying that "the best is recommendation" is rubbish.

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    hi guys. just to talk slightly about the 5th dimension.

    i am an avid reader of physics literature, and i have to say.....well, this topic is actually in discussion of physicists(the website wasn't lying). the mere fact that it is in discussion is that there's is a possibilty that this is science, not some mystic rubbish.

    paranormal waves are actually something real but termed in an extremely ugly way. it is said that things in the universe are made up of vibrations in higher dimensions. like enstien's gravity using 4D manupulation. super gravity, M theory using 11D etc. so the "paranormal waves" used here is somewhat similiar to photons vibrating at higher dimensions.

    but i admit i dun have the ability to fully understand and comprehend this product, but just thought some of you might want to know this little fact.

    it might be the company's plan to create such stir thus inducing popularity, or it might be a product of the century, however, no harm done in engaging such debates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rudigunawan View Post
    BTW, I will do my own research for my own health benefits, and so should everyone else.
    Saying that "the best is recommendation" is rubbish.
    but you miss the best part about crowd sourcing with this kind of attitude. i think you should not be too cynical about word-of-mouth communication. striking the balance is the best way to harvest the advantages of our nice big internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yagami-kira View Post
    This isn't a scam. We have it and are using it in our salon. In fact, I know someone on their testimonials page who is very credible, and he have some info about the device here:
    http://www.royalrife.com/hepatitis-c.html ;
    http://www.royalrife.com/members/pyro-energen.html

    I have seen many forums coming out with this kind of topic. One I was shocked http://www.xtrememind.com/phpbb/view...f9e11ccc381e71

    Maybe that will clear some confusions.

    Being a member of the rife-list group and other alternative medicine message boards, I have already seen several amazing medicines and products. And yes, many are indeed scam (many times I became victim of amazing pills and herbs). But sometimes, just like what satay16 said, among thousands, there is one genuine. I can't blame others opinion, in reality, it's really difficult to know if an unknown product is genuine or not. You'll need to do tremendous amount of research, or the riskiest, to buy the product itself. The best is recommendation.
    hi yagami-kira. i can't help to contain the suspicion, but how come you only have 2 post count? hope that you are just a genuine new member to CS. welcome to CS.
    Last edited by satay16; 29th March 2007 at 07:52 PM.

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    try eexcel products lor but also MLM wan.

    can improve immune system leh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Octane69 View Post
    dunno leh... but most important thing is.. she is ok now... and the 5th dimension thingy one is the ultraman shockwave electricity one lah... this one is drink water only
    Like the highlighted statement. Made me laugh.
    Nice one!

    This thread is becoming more interesting and extensive. Hmmmm the plot thickens.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by armadillo View Post
    Hi everyone,

    Ever heard of this device?
    Seem very interesting concept
    Because my daughter have skin allergic and sinus problem, not sure if this device can really help

    Benefits of PYRO-ENERGEN Usage
    Eliminates all viral diseases including respiratory diseases caused by allergies.
    Daily use will improve your blood's alkalinity; because an acidic blood makes you sick and weak.
    The use of PYRO-ENERGEN is not only intended for ill persons. Healthy children and adults are also recommended to use this electrotherapy device to safeguard and maintain good health.

    For more detail can read at http://www.pyroenergen.com/whybuy.htm

    Please share if you have any experience, the testimonial sound very good
    I hope this is not a scam
    good health starts from inside yourself. if you don't change your unhealthy living habits/lifestyle, no amount of external help will bring you lasting health. feeling good via application of external medium will only bring about temporal well-being, and may result in addiction and false beliefs.

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