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    Originally posted by Zoomer
    Just one OT question, does NUS/NTU allow one to choose the no of modules taken in one semester? Eg, can I choose how long/short I stay in uni, just like many overseas (US?) unis?

    Thanks
    In NTU?

    in one semester, you will need to earn a certain amount of academic units (AUs) before you are allowed to advance to the next year. it's best not to choose the no of subjects, but to follow the recommended subject list for each semester provided by each School's General Office.

    maximum 7 years for Engineering courses. no honours for that. To earn Honours, you must graduate within 4 years.

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    Originally posted by SNAG
    This may be really banal.. But I'm kinda lost here.
    Need those students from NTU/NUS to kinda help me explain something....

    I just finished my A Levels recently, and these were the scores that I got:

    Econs - A
    Mth C - B
    Physics - C
    GP, Chinese - B3
    u will need to be strong in Physics to survive Engineering in NTU/NUS. if you don't like Physics, don't choose Engineering.
    Last edited by mervlam; 10th March 2003 at 01:19 AM.

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    Originally posted by SNAG
    Thanks a lot.... that was really informative.
    Just to ask, what are the different types of finance?
    I'll find out more during the universities open house next week...
    Wah..so many replies to your thread... i wonder if we have helped to shed some light or caused you to be more confused!!

    Parchiao's replies has listed many functions in banks. The other areas are securities and insurance.

    Let us know if you need more clarifications


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    Hi,

    I am in engineering course in NTU, and I beg to differ that physics must be good in order to do well in engineering. Firstly, I dont come from A level, hence I do not even have a higher physics foundation other than the O level sub science phys/chem. And physics is never my forte but I am still manage to survive in engineering.

    In my view, interest is something one can pursue. But reality is reality. You cant run away from it. Many acct/bz students I know didnt make it big after graduation. Their starting pay is about S$1500 to S$1800 and after about a few years of working, their pay will increase to about S$2500. This pay bracket is the same whether u are a pass with merit student or a dean's list first class honours student. Because your degree meant nothing once you are out at work. It is the economy and the demand for your services that count.

    If money/salary is the main issue, then I would say go for engineering. At least the starting pay is about S$2500 now. Furthermore, I believe that Universities enlistees normally do not know what they want in future. Most of them are too young to figure out what they really want. Your interest today maybe your 'most hated' tomorrow.

    My idea is to go for something that can provide you with the best prospects whether is it in monetary terms or not. And strive to do well. As for interest, you can always self-study. Sigh.. interest and market value... u weigh the balance yourself...

    Just my two cents worth lah...

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    I am in the EEE course in NTU, and I would not "beg to differ that physics must be good in order to do well in engineering."

    Foundation is important. Your foundation is the years you spent in poly (i presume?). A lot of subjects are based on your knowledge gained from A Levels or Poly.

    interest and market value: yes, i agree that the state of the economy and industry is impt when you graduate. but more importantly, why take up a course you feel half-hearted about and scoring only borderline results? that will be a waste of your money and imptly your time.

    Why choose a course which you are not interested in, and in the end having to miserably struggle through?

    Originally posted by trendmatrix
    Hi,

    I am in engineering course in NTU, and I beg to differ that physics must be good in order to do well in engineering. Firstly, I dont come from A level, hence I do not even have a higher physics foundation other than the O level sub science phys/chem. And physics is never my forte but I am still manage to survive in engineering.

    In my view, interest is something one can pursue. But reality is reality. You cant run away from it. Many acct/bz students I know didnt make it big after graduation. Their starting pay is about S$1500 to S$1800 and after about a few years of working, their pay will increase to about S$2500. This pay bracket is the same whether u are a pass with merit student or a dean's list first class honours student. Because your degree meant nothing once you are out at work. It is the economy and the demand for your services that count.

    If money/salary is the main issue, then I would say go for engineering. At least the starting pay is about S$2500 now. Furthermore, I believe that Universities enlistees normally do not know what they want in future. Most of them are too young to figure out what they really want. Your interest today maybe your 'most hated' tomorrow.

    My idea is to go for something that can provide you with the best prospects whether is it in monetary terms or not. And strive to do well. As for interest, you can always self-study. Sigh.. interest and market value... u weigh the balance yourself...

    Just my two cents worth lah...

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    woah..
    I didn't know that this thread would generate much interest and discussion amongst you guys!!

    It's a bit of a decision to make between pursuing your personal interest and "bread and butter issues", but IMHO, pursuing my interest attracts me more....

    To be honest with you, I was never interested in Physics all along. I kinda dreaded the lectures + tutorials, and having a lousy relief teacher to teach us didn't help either. As a result, I literally failed in all my tests and stuff, the best score that I got for Physics was a meagre E.

    But then, luckily in Year 2, I had a great Physics teacher, and he managed to pull my grades up to at least a C.

    But to choose between Econs and Physics, I think I would prefer Econs. I was really fascinated with the subject, as I was constantly keeping myself updated with newspaper articles and extra reference material. God, I think this was the only subject that I had researched extra material for my A Level Econs essay!

    Maybe it is because that most of my cousins and friends around me are more or less "business educated", and that's why I may feel attracted to "business" rather than "engineering".

    Maybe I should take a peek into my cousin's Eng notes (again) to check it out... But I remember the last time I saw her lecture notes, I almost fainted....

    Anyway, as what I have said earlier, I will go to the respective open houses this Sat to know more about the various courses....

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    Originally posted by Mr Fish
    Oh dear. Did i appear as too cocky?
    Aiyah, I was saying it in jest.

    In any case, If SNAG needs to do national service, SNAG will have lots of time to think it through. If SNAG does not need to do national service, then decision time is not far off.

    Just remember the part about distinguishing yourself from the rest.

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    Originally posted by SNAG
    Maybe I should take a peek into my cousin's Eng notes (again) to check it out... But I remember the last time I saw her lecture notes, I almost fainted....
    that's perfectly normal.. even now when i take out my notes to revise i'll oso faint!

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    Originally posted by Zoomer
    Just one OT question, does NUS/NTU allow one to choose the no of modules taken in one semester? Eg, can I choose how long/short I stay in uni, just like many overseas (US?) unis?

    Thanks
    I think the new system in NUS requires you to take minimum 5 subjects and max of 7(?) or something like that. I think they limit the max number to prevent you from doing badly... and to minimise lecture/tutorial/exam dates and timeslot clashing. There is no minimum but usually there is a maximum of 5 years i think, not too sure.

    The more famous overseas universities also require you to stay for a minimum number of years, usually 2 i think, before you can be considered a student at their institution. This is to prevent students transferring at the last moment from other schools to the more reputable ones and graduating with a "shortcut" degree from the reputable ones.

    as for SNAG, i'm currently doing my honours in Information and Communications Management in NUS. I would highly recommend you to do somethign which you think you'll enjoy in university and you will do well in it. I went into NUS with C, C, D and A2 for GP. dunno how i got in also. But i made sure i chose a major that i really would enjoy and have been doing pretty fine since then.

    believe the previous postings when they say JC and Uni are two different realms.... hahah... way different... good JC grades does not mean good Uni grades man.. hehhee... and vice versa la...

    you might not want to focus on a professional degree cuz that might limit your eventual choices for a job, but a general degree might not be specialised enuf.. hahha.. so there's too many things to worry about la... go do somethign u like!!

    hope that helps...

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    I think at the end of the day, only you can answer the question of what you really want in life. why did you do A levels in the first place? Was it to follow the vast majority? And even so, why did you study those subjects and not the rest?

    Getting a univeristy degree is not the end. Though I know a some Singaporean kids think that way. We all want the cert. Cos can get $$$ later mah! (Is it true?) Maybe it's the Asian culture to please their parents. Get a degree. Then get a decent job as a progessional. Some will tell them be a doctor or lawyer. Arts? Tan buay jiak!!!

    But I'd rather think: what do YOU really want? You can do Arts but if you have a strong passion for something and know deep down your plans, you'll be and feel more successful than an unhappy engineer who doesn't know what he wants.

    If I were you and have my way, I'd never study in NUS/NTU. Sorry lah. Me a graduate from there and know tons others who've been thru it. I dunno now, but I doubt it has changed much. But the culture over here is to get the cert, get as many A's as possible. What I've always wanted is to learn and gain knowledge. What they gave me instead was just a piece of paper to say I studied for 3/4 years.

    But to say another way, one might not need a formal degree at all to do well in life. It really depends on what you look for. I know so many of my friends who are local U grads and after 4 years of studying and 3 years of working, they are still like wanderers in desert. Work, work work but never quite satisfied. That's basically what our education taught them here. Get the cert to tell others you are a graduate. They never quite teach many of us how to think. How to be rich financially and emotionally.

    If I had my way all over again, I'd probably do diploma, get good grades, go overseas, gain KNOWLEDGE, and then get a good degree if I foresee I really need it. It's worth more than the usual A levels (which I think is really an outdated exam system) then mug mug mug. For just that 1 paper.

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    Yup distinguishing yourself from the rest is very very important. Be it better grades, more involvement in ECAs, extra relevant skills, leadership abilities, teamwork oriented, or high EQ, and even back-stabbing skills or counter-backstabbing skills

    In Singapore where graduates are "mass produced" in truckloads, you really gotta stand out from the rest to go far.

    Your time in the army will be a good time to mature and learn how to deal with issues that you will encounter next time. So dun go thro it and learn nothing.

    Originally posted by Parchiao
    Just remember the part about distinguishing yourself from the rest.

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    Originally posted by Parchiao
    Just remember the part about distinguishing yourself from the rest.
    That's why.. Be Different. Join SMU! :lol:

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    Originally posted by YSLee
    That's why.. Be Different. Join SMU! :lol:
    definitely not like ys

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    just follow your heart and do what you're interested in.

    i hated computers yet i opted to do computing in nus. now that i've graduated, i like computers much better but it's still not my cup of tea.

    i got a job in a bank and it does look like banks don't give a damn as compared to the civil service about qualifications. as long as you've got a degree, they'll let you in. it's other factors that count.

    but your degree gives you a gd foundation. i'm starting to regret not doing biz ad or biz in uni. things wd have been smoother if i had.

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    Hi there!
    I have went to the respective universities today, and I have more or less narrowed down to these options.

    Business @ NUS/NTU with major in Finance.
    FASS with a major in Econs.

    I went to the respective sites to check out the curriculum of the different courses, and I must say that I am very interested in both Econs And Biz.

    Here are the modules in the courses:

    NUS Biz Ad.
    http://www.fba.nus.edu.sg/undergrad/schedule_s10203.htm

    NUS FASS (select Econs)
    http://www.fas.nus.edu.sg/undergrad/...ffered_s1.html

    NTU Biz Ad with Major in Finance + Banking
    http://www.nbs.ntu.edu.sg/Programmes...B_Banking.asp#

    Now another issue lies with the Biz courses that NUS & NTU offers. It is generally said that NUS offers a much more 'general' degree, and that NTU allows you to specialize into a certain aspect (ie. Finance). But from what I gather, NUS does specialize in year 2 as well... and they also have Finance. Confusion...

    And to make things worse, NUS Biz School offers specialization in Econs as well..

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    Originally posted by Keito
    definitely not like ys
    But hey... SMU is quite a good U as well... I went to their open house as well.. But I kinda hated the people there. They are more play oriented, as their open house had more game booths rather than course booths!!

    And some of the people that I talked to (to get directions) were those snobbish ABCs...

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    Don't listen to your friends or the industry for what to study.
    Ask yourself what you like. That's the ultimate question.
    You can be a good artist or writer and still make lots of money.

    If you don't have the brains for an engineering course, why should you torture yourself to learn something you can't cope with, maybe scrape through with a pass and have a tag as "an engineer" for the rest of your life, then looking for a job as an engineer, cheating yourself your whole life?

    That's the problem with Singapore's education system. Learn absolutely irrelevant things in JC and go to university to learn everything under the sky in the first few years then majoring late in the last year to prepare for the working world. That's waaay
    too late and too little time to learn what's really important.

    People always say overseas grads are those that can't make it to NUS/NTU. But that USED to be the case, now overseas grads have more insight, more exposure and more experience then most over protected and spoon fed NUS/NTU grads. NUS grads being worse off because they have no industrial attachment.

    My company hires more overseas grads and find them much more matured and effective than local grads.

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    Originally posted by SNAG
    But hey... SMU is quite a good U as well... I went to their open house as well.. But I kinda hated the people there. They are more play oriented, as their open house had more game booths rather than course booths!!

    And some of the people that I talked to (to get directions) were those snobbish ABCs...
    Errmm.. when there're only like 3-4 courses on offer, what'd you expect?? -_-

    Oh, as for the ABCs, you get them everywhere.. the minute you step into arts or biz their proportion will increase. =P

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    hmmmm.. maybe your company is hiring the wrong local grads... we should all try not to over-generalise issues and traits, as nothing is ever so absolute. There are pros and cons of an overseas and local education, and i guess the best that we can do is to find an an acceptable balance of qualities.

    SNAG, just do a course of study in a field that you enjoy. If you're studying somethign you like, you'll be more motivated to study it, and you'll probably enjoy yourself more!

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