Firestore

samvision · 25th March 2007

have anyone tried using firestore or citi harddisk
which one is better ?

jaegersing · 25th March 2007

I'd be interested to hear this too. I was thinking about getting a Firestore FS-C for my Canon XH-A1, but it is quite ex, and then I heard you have to get a separate mounting kit which adds another hundred+ USD. So decided to wait a while and hope that prices come down. Don't know anything about the citi range.

samvision · 25th March 2007

Originally Posted by jaegersing

I'd be interested to hear this too. I was thinking about getting a Firestore FS-C for my Canon XH-A1, but it is quite ex, and then I heard you have to get a separate mounting kit which adds another hundred+ USD. So decided to wait a while and hope that prices come down. Don't know anything about the citi range.

are u getting the HD or non hd version
i heard that it can be up grade.
want to know the pre view about it ..
and how many people use it

jaegersing · 26th March 2007

The FS-C is HDV compatible (but also works with SD DV). I think it was designed for the XH-L1, and has a suitable mount for that, but for other cams you need to buy an additional mount and cable.

I haven't actually tried one yet. I suppose I'm looking to tap others' experience before deciding (like you I think?).

samvision · 26th March 2007

Originally Posted by jaegersing

The FS-C is HDV compatible (but also works with SD DV). I think it was designed for the XH-L1, and has a suitable mount for that, but for other cams you need to buy an additional mount and cable.

I haven't actually tried one yet. I suppose I'm looking to tap others' experience before deciding (like you I think?).

how much does it cost?

jaegersing · 26th March 2007

I was quoted these prices in January:

FS - C 60 GB : SGD$2,520.00

FS - C 100 GB : SGD$3,570.00

These are with 5% GST but not the A1 mounting kit. Could possible negotiate a bit lower, but I didn't try because the mounting kit cost put me off.

samvision · 27th March 2007

Originally Posted by jaegersing

I was quoted these prices in January:

FS - C 60 GB : SGD$2,520.00

FS - C 100 GB : SGD$3,570.00

These are with 5% GST but not the A1 mounting kit. Could possible negotiate a bit lower, but I didn't try because the mounting kit cost put me off.

thanks i got a better quote . cant make up my mind to which to get.
i am only getting one for dvx.

jaegersing · 27th March 2007

You know the FS-C is optimised for Canon? The generic models are something like FS-80, FS-100 etc.

So what price were you quoted?

jfoo · 27th March 2007

Originally Posted by jaegersing

Don't know anything about the citi range.

not expandable, ie firmware cannot be upgraded later by yourself or the dealer. the 2.5inch HDD is mated to the firmware card.

samvision · 28th March 2007

Originally Posted by jfoo

not expandable, ie firmware cannot be upgraded later by yourself or the dealer. the 2.5inch HDD is mated to the firmware card.

have u bought one

tommon · 28th March 2007

Try the Sony's 60Gb. It's usabel for both SD & HD, anti-shock, 14 sec pre-recording memory, uses Sont FP batts, small & compact.

jfoo · 28th March 2007

Originally Posted by samvision

have u bought one

nope. got the info during my check on this product with the distributor.

jfoo · 28th March 2007

Originally Posted by tommon

Try the Sony's 60Gb. It's usabel for both SD & HD, anti-shock, 14 sec pre-recording memory, uses Sont FP batts, small & compact.

are you using one at the moment? can share the cost of this item?

melvinch · 28th March 2007

Please save your money and wait for the new Premiere Pro CS3.

It has OnLocation, which is a hard disk live-recording app, formerly know as DVRack from Serious Magic.

The cost of the firestore is enuf for you to buy a decent notebook.

jaegersing · 28th March 2007

Originally Posted by tommon

Try the Sony's 60Gb. It's usabel for both SD & HD, anti-shock, 14 sec pre-recording memory, uses Sont FP batts, small & compact.

If you have a non-Sony camera, this one is not a good choice, because you have to start and stop the recording by pressing 2 buttons on the hard disk.

It's much better to get one that records automatically when you press the button on the camera.

It's a great match for the V1 though.

jfoo · 28th March 2007

Originally Posted by melvinch

Please save your money and wait for the new Premiere Pro CS3.

It has OnLocation, which is a hard disk live-recording app, formerly know as DVRack from Serious Magic.

The cost of the firestore is enuf for you to buy a decent notebook.

but for event recordings on-the-move, is this practical?

melvinch · 28th March 2007

If you are recording on the move, how sure are you that the Firestore is capturing as well ? It is not as if it has a video-out for monitoring.

As for DVRack, you can see the clip on your notebook's video overlay while you are capturing it.

Not bashing the Firestore, if you feel it's worth the money by all means go for it.

jfoo · 28th March 2007

Originally Posted by melvinch

If you are recording on the move, how sure are you that the Firestore is capturing as well ? It is not as if it has a video-out for monitoring.

As for DVRack, you can see the clip on your notebook's video overlay while you are capturing it.

Not bashing the Firestore, if you feel it's worth the money by all means go for it.

what i mean to say is how do you use a notebook with DVRack to capture on the move like in a wedding or event. isn't DVRack meant for on-set production work (ie stationary)?

i don't use the firestore but from what i understand, it has a led which runs when its recording. you can preview your recorded clips by playing back through your lcd viewfinder to review your shots.

i agree that the firestore/citidisk is expensive and you can buy a notebook with the money but if DVRack can be set to coincide with the start/stop on the camera when filming than its the way to go.

samvision · 29th March 2007

[quote=jfoo;2950352]what i mean to say is how do you use a notebook with DVRack to capture on the move like in a wedding or event. isn't DVRack meant for on-set production work (ie stationary)?

i don't use the firestore but from what i understand, it has a led which runs when its recording. you can preview your recorded clips by playing back through your lcd viewfinder to review your shots.

i agree that the firestore/citidisk is expensive and you can buy a notebook with the money but if DVRack can be set to coincide with the start/stop on the camera when filming than its the way to go.[/QUOTE\)

take it easy guys. i will say that recording with laptop..i have done it 2 years ago with powerbook. looking at a better portable firestore. cheers

jfoo · 29th March 2007

anyone can confirm DVRack can start capturing on the notebook when you start rolling on the camera?

i don't seem to be able to find that bit of info.

25th March 2007	#1
samvision Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 490	Firestore have anyone tried using firestore or citi harddisk which one is better ?

25th March 2007	#2
jaegersing Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,142	Re: Firestore I'd be interested to hear this too. I was thinking about getting a Firestore FS-C for my Canon XH-A1, but it is quite ex, and then I heard you have to get a separate mounting kit which adds another hundred+ USD. So decided to wait a while and hope that prices come down. Don't know anything about the citi range.

26th March 2007	#4
jaegersing Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,142	Re: Firestore The FS-C is HDV compatible (but also works with SD DV). I think it was designed for the XH-L1, and has a suitable mount for that, but for other cams you need to buy an additional mount and cable. I haven't actually tried one yet. I suppose I'm looking to tap others' experience before deciding (like you I think?). Last edited by jaegersing; 26th March 2007 at 08:40 AM.

26th March 2007	#6
jaegersing Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,142	Re: Firestore I was quoted these prices in January: FS - C 60 GB : SGD$2,520.00 FS - C 100 GB : SGD$3,570.00 These are with 5% GST but not the A1 mounting kit. Could possible negotiate a bit lower, but I didn't try because the mounting kit cost put me off.

27th March 2007	#8
jaegersing Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,142	Re: Firestore You know the FS-C is optimised for Canon? The generic models are something like FS-80, FS-100 etc. So what price were you quoted?

28th March 2007	#11
tommon Deregistered Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Currently, Singapore but hope Posts: 729	Re: Firestore Try the Sony's 60Gb. It's usabel for both SD & HD, anti-shock, 14 sec pre-recording memory, uses Sont FP batts, small & compact.

28th March 2007	#14
melvinch New Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 49	Re: Firestore Please save your money and wait for the new Premiere Pro CS3. It has OnLocation, which is a hard disk live-recording app, formerly know as DVRack from Serious Magic. The cost of the firestore is enuf for you to buy a decent notebook.

28th March 2007	#17
melvinch New Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 49	Re: Firestore If you are recording on the move, how sure are you that the Firestore is capturing as well ? It is not as if it has a video-out for monitoring. As for DVRack, you can see the clip on your notebook's video overlay while you are capturing it. Not bashing the Firestore, if you feel it's worth the money by all means go for it. Last edited by melvinch; 28th March 2007 at 04:38 PM.

29th March 2007	#19
samvision Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 490	Re: Firestore [quote=jfoo;2950352]what i mean to say is how do you use a notebook with DVRack to capture on the move like in a wedding or event. isn't DVRack meant for on-set production work (ie stationary)? i don't use the firestore but from what i understand, it has a led which runs when its recording. you can preview your recorded clips by playing back through your lcd viewfinder to review your shots. i agree that the firestore/citidisk is expensive and you can buy a notebook with the money but if DVRack can be set to coincide with the start/stop on the camera when filming than its the way to go.[/QUOTE\) take it easy guys. i will say that recording with laptop..i have done it 2 years ago with powerbook. looking at a better portable firestore. cheers

29th March 2007	#20
jfoo Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,270	Re: Firestore anyone can confirm DVRack can start capturing on the notebook when you start rolling on the camera? i don't seem to be able to find that bit of info.