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    Default Newbie here, need help from U guys

    hey guys,

    i'm new to all this and thinking of taking it as a hobby. I've read up abit and thinking of buying a canon 400d but comtemplating on buying a new one or a 2nd hand one.

    Please advice

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    if you have enough money, you can buy brand new so you have no worries about shutter counts or insufficient warranty...

    however if you are tight on cash, buy 2nd hand. there is a good post in Marketplace forum for a 400D with a prime lens and a battery grip as 400D is a bit small:

    http://forums.clubsnap.org/showthread.php?t=267530
    however the seller do not have a kit lens which is very useful as you start out with this hobby. it's a versitle lens. =)

    i'm a recent 400D user.. upgraded from 350D..... hope this helps :
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    It depends on the sort of person you are.

    Are you willing to take the chances of getting something which may have trouble a while later and you have to send for repair and pay $, you will du lan?

    If yes, then don't, because the chances are there no matter how you put it. Of course for 400D not so high, it's relatively new product.

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    why not get a

    1) 10x optical zoom (about 35mm-400mm) with optical stablizer
    panasonic - fz10 or fz20

    2) 3-4x optical zoom (about 35mm-105mm) no optical stablizer but have fast lens (max f1.8-f2.0)
    canon - g2 or g3
    olympus - c4040 or c5050

    buy from B&S here.
    above comes with manual mode (imo, important to understand the basic), cost between $200 - $300. get good starter tripod for $100+ (eg. manfrotto 190series with ball head or 3way pan head).

    if you are really hook on photography, than venture deeper ie.$$$ investment in dslr + lens.

    this way, you can than spend time deciding which system to go into without being tie down by the intial investment on campact camera since it is a stand alone unit.

    as for tripod, you will still need it.
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    Do not hesitate. Just do it. 2nd hand or new does not matter.
    It is not a huge purchase like a car or house. Life is short.
    If you do not like it (remote chance) just sell and lose a little bit.

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    actually the best advice is that you hang around the b and s section and wait for those guys that want to change systems, then you can get the whole set of cameras and lens from them cheap.. buying each individually will be more EX.

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    Quote Originally Posted by denniskee View Post
    why not get a

    1) 10x optical zoom (about 35mm-400mm) with optical stablizer
    panasonic - fz10 or fz20

    2) 3-4x optical zoom (about 35mm-105mm) no optical stablizer but have fast lens (max f1.8-f2.0)
    canon - g2 or g3
    olympus - c4040 or c5050

    buy from B&S here.
    above comes with manual mode (imo, important to understand the basic), cost between $200 - $300. get good starter tripod for $100+ (eg. manfrotto 190series with ball head or 3way pan head).

    if you are really hook on photography, than venture deeper ie.$$$ investment in dslr + lens.

    this way, you can than spend time deciding which system to go into without being tie down by the intial investment on campact camera since it is a stand alone unit.

    as for tripod, you will still need it.

    i got a PnS canon powerShot A510, not a bad cam but limted. plus i want to explore more and learn more so i think getting an entry level DSLR will be a good stepping stone to learn more abt it, i don't know what do u all think?

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    if u know the basics like aperture , shutter speed...etc, then a dslr shd be fine.
    I think A510 have M mode? do u frequent shoot in M mode or just P mode all the way??

    my 400D is 2nd hand lah...2nd hand cam involves some risk, but check well how to check a cam, there is a dead pixel test s/w also...if u got laptop can bring while buying.
    or just get the first hand if you are not used to using 2nd hand stuff.

    OT abit:
    actually 400D also got P mode etc ...but then...i think the exposure sometimes not good..so i prefer to keep it M mode...(i get overexposed photos at time when using Av mode...mmmm...) hahah
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    Well, I think compared to many other cameras, getting a 2nd-hand 400D involves lower risk. Simply because whoever you bought from, there is still about half a year of warranty left. So just check for any physical damages due to negligence, and you are quite safe. Any other problems, just send it to the service centre to get them fixed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by digi~ET View Post
    if u know the basics like aperture , shutter speed...etc, then a dslr shd be fine.
    I think A510 have M mode? do u frequent shoot in M mode or just P mode all the way??

    my 400D is 2nd hand lah...2nd hand cam involves some risk, but check well how to check a cam, there is a dead pixel test s/w also...if u got laptop can bring while buying.
    or just get the first hand if you are not used to using 2nd hand stuff.

    OT abit:
    actually 400D also got P mode etc ...but then...i think the exposure sometimes not good..so i prefer to keep it M mode...(i get overexposed photos at time when using Av mode...mmmm...) hahah
    more or less know the basics have been reading up. i freq used Av mode sometime Tv.

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    Default Re: Newbie here, need help from U guys

    u all think i should buy from cam shop or court?

    coz if buy from places like court got give more freebie whereas buy from cam shop the price will be cheaper but come with only a 2GB card and a cam bag from canon only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eugene83 View Post
    u all think i should buy from cam shop or court?

    coz if buy from places like court got give more freebie whereas buy from cam shop the price will be cheaper but come with only a 2GB card and a cam bag from canon only.
    Unless you need those freebies, else just get what you need
    Remember to do some calculation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by obewan View Post
    Unless you need those freebies, else just get what you need
    Remember to do some calculation.
    Okay thanks odewan

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    i bought a 2nd hand 400D...
    got it with the remaining warranty just in case
    never regretted
    the $ saved can get you a decent lens
    Last edited by aloyyolaaloy; 26th March 2007 at 09:21 PM.
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    Default Re: Newbie here, need help from U guys

    Bro,

    Dun be blinded by the freebies. If you have friends who bought from the recent IT Show, ask them - are the freebies really as good, as useful, etc.? Or are they looking to offload the freebies now? Chances are, when you get more and more "addicted", you'll start to look at brands & quality of other "essentials" (e.g. tripods, bags, etc...)

    Quote Originally Posted by eugene83 View Post
    u all think i should buy from cam shop or court?

    coz if buy from places like court got give more freebie whereas buy from cam shop the price will be cheaper but come with only a 2GB card and a cam bag from canon only.
    The DIFFERENCE is not in the "Cue", it is in the SKILLS...

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    Quote Originally Posted by aloyyolaaloy View Post
    i bought a 2nd hand 400D...
    got it with the remaining warranty just in case
    never regretted
    the $ saved can get you a decent lens

    how much you brought your 400D for and how long is the remaining warranty?

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    Default Re: Newbie here, need help from U guys

    oo... about 2 months ago...
    was $1350 with everything including kit lens, memory card. whatever
    the guy only used it for 4 mths

    now should be much cheaper
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    Quote Originally Posted by aloyyolaaloy View Post
    oo... about 2 months ago...
    was $1350 with everything including kit lens, memory card. whatever
    the guy only used it for 4 mths

    now should be much cheaper
    oo... ok coz i got some shop quote my abt $1440 for 1st hand one with kit len, memory card and a cam bag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eugene83 View Post
    oo... ok coz i got some shop quote my abt $1440 for 1st hand one with kit len, memory card and a cam bag.
    ask for more.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by happyepower View Post
    ask for more.....
    more as in...???

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