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    hi, would like to hear views from grads and post-grads ; do u think a masters degree helps in today's career progression and enhances one's market value ?


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    I would'nt employ a master's if a normal degree can do the same job..

    I would'nt employ a degree holder if a diploma can do the same job..

    I would'nt employ a diploma holder if a O level can do the same job..

    I would'nt employ a O level holder is a PSLE can do the same job...

    and I would'nt employ a PSLE holder coz he got no Master's degree.


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    I feel going for Master only if the company has a openings which requires you to have a Master degree...

    Another words only if there is a need for it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by leonsoh19 View Post
    I feel going for Master only if the company has a openings which requires you to have a Master degree...

    Another words only if there is a need for it...


    even if there is openings for u with a masters degree, it depends on whether they really want u for what u noe/experience.... else its practically neither here nor there.

    It also depends on the discipline u are in.

    I'm in a private company in research in life sciences..and frankly i can tell u.... IT SUX !!!! (esp when it comes to pay scale)

    the fact that people spend so much more time and hands on in pursuing that degree and still earn lesser than a basic fresh grad doctor and supplies them with new drugs/innovative techniques/methods to treat diseases disgusts me.

    Maybe its just in S'pore..... coz i've heard of places where scientists are valued as much as docs, engineers, accountants, lawyers, architects.... (the so called "professionals")

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    If you want to go for a PHD,

    then yes, go for masters, if not, don't waste your time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plsoong View Post
    even if there is openings for u with a masters degree, it depends on whether they really want u for what u noe/experience.... else its practically neither here nor there.

    It also depends on the discipline u are in.

    I'm in a private company in research in life sciences..and frankly i can tell u.... IT SUX !!!! (esp when it comes to pay scale)

    the fact that people spend so much more time and hands on in pursuing that degree and still earn lesser than a basic fresh grad doctor and supplies them with new drugs/innovative techniques/methods to treat diseases disgusts me.

    Maybe its just in S'pore..... coz i've heard of places where scientists are valued as much as docs, engineers, accountants, lawyers, architects.... (the so called "professionals")

    that is strange, i taught life sciences, biomedical sectors are current top notch industries in Singapore. Recently govt even pumped money into it.

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    Can't really generalize. Depends a lot on what u want to do and the career you are in.

    You can hold an O level cert but be very successful in your business and become a millionaire. In contrast, another chap may be an A student who gets 1st class Honours and a good Masters from a reputable uni but his or her pay can never match yours! Of course, that's provided $ is important to you. But if you simply want fulfilment in your job that's another thing.

    Also, I find in Singapore, certain practices still leave much to be desired. Over here, for some jobs, standards are lower than most of the other more developed and established countries like the US, Australia, Europe, etc.

    In spore, with a Bachelor's, you can already practice certain professions. In other countries, a Master's degree or sometimes even a Ph.D is the bare minimum for you to qualify for a job. So sometimes, getting a Master's here becomes unnecessary and ironically you may end up finding it difficult to find a job (overqualified) or the pay is below what you expect.

    Best is you check out the requirements at different places/countries and decide what your future will be like. Also, do you want to work here or overseas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by leonsoh19 View Post
    I feel going for Master only if the company has a openings which requires you to have a Master degree...

    Another words only if there is a need for it...
    When the company has opening, then you take the Masters, which requires 1-2 years of study. You really think the company is going to wait for you? Besides, you think noone else in the company or even outside the company has Masters that they can employ immediately? It will be too late. If you already have Masters, you are ready to jump in when the opportunity arises.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plsoong View Post
    even if there is openings for u with a masters degree, it depends on whether they really want u for what u noe/experience.... else its practically neither here nor there.

    It also depends on the discipline u are in.

    I'm in a private company in research in life sciences..and frankly i can tell u.... IT SUX !!!! (esp when it comes to pay scale)

    the fact that people spend so much more time and hands on in pursuing that degree and still earn lesser than a basic fresh grad doctor and supplies them with new drugs/innovative techniques/methods to treat diseases disgusts me.

    Maybe its just in S'pore..... coz i've heard of places where scientists are valued as much as docs, engineers, accountants, lawyers, architects.... (the so called "professionals")


    My sentiments exactly. Spore sux when it comes to recognizing certain professions. So for these, getting a Masters is juz an overqualification sometimes. I'm very surprised cos sometimes I wonder, we are already labelled "1st world" but the traditional mentality is still pretty much backward. Guess it's the culture.

    I'm in the medical field. I've only an Honours degree. In the US, people all have at least a Masters and Ph.D is very common. I should rightly have that also. Even the less developed countries have Master programs too. But not here.

    People with my profession are pretty much unknown here. I daresay even to the health ministry! No kidding. *sad* Unfortunately, my work is actually as important as, if not more important than the docs cos at the end of the day, whether patients get well or not depends on me too! But the docs here get all the huge pay increment, recognition, training, specialization. Me? Nothing of that sort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WuffRuff View Post
    When the company has opening, then you take the Masters, which requires 1-2 years of study. You really think the company is going to wait for you? Besides, you think noone else in the company or even outside the company has Masters that they can employ immediately? It will be too late. If you already have Masters, you are ready to jump in when the opportunity arises.
    haha, maybe my sentence did come very clear.. wat i mean is the company u r working at...

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    Quote Originally Posted by raincool2005 View Post
    hi, would like to hear views from grads and post-grads ; do u think a masters degree helps in today's career progression and enhances one's market value ?
    What kind of masters degree are you talking about? It's so hard to generalise masters as if it's one entity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kiwi2 View Post
    My sentiments exactly. Spore sux when it comes to recognizing certain professions. So for these, getting a Masters is juz an overqualification sometimes. I'm very surprised cos sometimes I wonder, we are already labelled "1st world" but the traditional mentality is still pretty much backward. Guess it's the culture.

    I'm in the medical field. I've only an Honours degree. In the US, people all have at least a Masters and Ph.D is very common. I should rightly have that also. Even the less developed countries have Master programs too. But not here.

    People with my profession are pretty much unknown here. I daresay even to the health ministry! No kidding. *sad* Unfortunately, my work is actually as important as, if not more important than the docs cos at the end of the day, whether patients get well or not depends on me too! But the docs here get all the huge pay increment, recognition, training, specialization. Me? Nothing of that sort.
    U do get something in the end lah...















    U got my pity...

    For anything else, there is always your mastercard...
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    Quote Originally Posted by raincool2005 View Post
    that is strange, i taught life sciences, biomedical sectors are current top notch industries in Singapore. Recently govt even pumped money into it.
    Yes, govt. pumped millions into it... Doesn't mean the poor research assistants (who form the majority of the staff) are getting a good pay. The funding goes to the PI (Principal Investigator) and he is the one who decides how to use the fund. Sometimes, salaries of his workers are taken from the fund. In some research institutes, the salary comes from the Institute. But no matter how they are managed, it only turns out one way. The PI gets a freaking big pay check. The rest (post-docs, research assistants, etc) get a low salary compared to peoply with the same qualifications in other industries. And the sick part is most of the PIs and Post-docs are "foreign talent" so on top of their big pay check, they also get housing allowance, etc. Most of the locals are atm at the research assistant level, getting a small pay check becos perhaps part of their salary are used to fund the "foreign talent's" housing! Most Singaporean people in research are pissed with the whole industry... its like the whole world gathered in one place (with more of Chinese and Indian nationals) where the foreigners are put on a pedestal and the locals are stepped on, with no priviledges or benefits at all! That's why I left that industry.

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    If u're staying in ur current job, have the free time, single no commitment? Yes a Masters do help.
    If u wanna find a job with a Masters? Its more of a hinderance these days.

    The game to play is to value-add urself when u're in the service of ur Employer. However, the trick is not to emphasise on the equation of 'Masters = Pay Rise = Promotion' so much that ur employer feels pressured to give u a payrise thru the roof and u may end up the 1st on his retrenchment list, a counter-effect.

    Yes, extremely dumb. U guys may think, "Den why the hell do I study my Masters for?! To work with more responsibility without more pay?! I'm quitting! *PFFFFTT!*"

    Bring it up occasionally, show it out in ur work. Even without that immediate jump u hoped for, the jumps will be quick as ur outstanding work will shine thru and when ur employer bring it up, do the casual, "Oh, I took my Masters. Thought it might help seriously in my work and the company." thing. It will lessen the intimidation effect.

    Always say, "The Company, The Work." dun hang the, "I, my, me." on ur lips.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsbn View Post
    If u're staying in ur current job, have the free time, single no commitment? Yes a Masters do help.
    If u wanna find a job with a Masters? Its more of a hinderance these days.

    The game to play is to value-add urself when u're in the service of ur Employer. However, the trick is not to emphasise on the equation of 'Masters = Pay Rise = Promotion' so much that ur employer feels pressured to give u a payrise thru the roof and u may end up the 1st on his retrenchment list, a counter-effect.

    Yes, extremely dumb. U guys may think, "Den why the hell do I study my Masters for?! To work with more responsibility without more pay?! I'm quitting! *PFFFFTT!*"

    Bring it up occasionally, show it out in ur work. Even without that immediate jump u hoped for, the jumps will be quick as ur outstanding work will shine thru and when ur employer bring it up, do the casual, "Oh, I took my Masters. Thought it might help seriously in my work and the company." thing. It will lessen the intimidation effect.

    Always say, "The Company, The Work." dun hang the, "I, my, me." on ur lips.

    Wahhh... u are the smart one. Looks like u know how to play the game well.
    Are u in some sort of career guidance line?

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    Quote Originally Posted by raincool2005 View Post
    hi, would like to hear views from grads and post-grads ; do u think a masters degree helps in today's career progression and enhances one's market value ?

    this question too general leh.

    u need to tell us more

    1) what master u taking
    2) what industry u in?
    3) what position u holding
    4) which uni the master is from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WuffRuff View Post
    Yes, govt. pumped millions into it... Doesn't mean the poor research assistants (who form the majority of the staff) are getting a good pay. The funding goes to the PI (Principal Investigator) and he is the one who decides how to use the fund. Sometimes, salaries of his workers are taken from the fund. In some research institutes, the salary comes from the Institute. But no matter how they are managed, it only turns out one way. The PI gets a freaking big pay check. The rest (post-docs, research assistants, etc) get a low salary compared to peoply with the same qualifications in other industries. And the sick part is most of the PIs and Post-docs are "foreign talent" so on top of their big pay check, they also get housing allowance, etc. Most of the locals are atm at the research assistant level, getting a small pay check becos perhaps part of their salary are used to fund the "foreign talent's" housing! Most Singaporean people in research are pissed with the whole industry... its like the whole world gathered in one place (with more of Chinese and Indian nationals) where the foreigners are put on a pedestal and the locals are stepped on, with no priviledges or benefits at all! That's why I left that industry.
    Tell me about it....

    Going away from here for my post-doc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raincool2005 View Post
    that is strange, i taught life sciences, biomedical sectors are current top notch industries in Singapore. Recently govt even pumped money into it.
    u teaching life sciences and Biodmedical? Must be some Professor or something?

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