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    Quote Originally Posted by eikin View Post
    i think you got it right though, he is exploring, all the time he's always full of questions
    Without exploring, how to find new ways to earn $$$?????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deadpoet View Post
    Having dinner

    I found CS while I was new to Singapore, looking for like minded people, portraits photogrpaher, whom I can go shooting together.

    I have found what I was looking for. I am forever greatful to those whom I first met, first shot with, and became friends.

    I have also discover CS, especially the portrait sub forum to be the most squabling place I know. I then discover that it is place where comments are usually sugar coated. And last but not least, a place where straight talk is not welcome, by many at the very least.

    It is also a place and time where "Deadpoet" had developed a love/hate reputation. But I have no regrets. Starting the "messy hair" crusade, whom a few frowned on, did more to improve my own ability to observe, to critique, and ultimately, a better photographer.

    I still have a long way to go to become the photographer I want to be.

    But most important of all, I had made sme very good friends through CS. Thank you Club Snap!
    Yo, u see, ppl see Clubsnaps differently, but still can tahan each other in CS, so if 1 bothers too see further, 1 can actually sense something.

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    And there I was, trying quite hard to seek advise from somebody, or anybody who could advise a newbie what camera I can buy with a set budget. Terms like, CA, optocal zoom, manual control, storage media et al. flew over my head which basically depressed me.

    Then a kind soul from HWZ (they existed then i guess...) pointed me to this place and from all the friendly advice i got, i plunged ahead and bought my Olympus C700UZ. This camera started me off and served me faithfully as i joined various outings and met alot of like minded people who were keen to share.

    Megaweb was most notable in that sense. Unassuming and ever ready with advice, I slowly learnt to appreciate macro photography (and was showed how macdonald's serviettes works as a flash diffuser). Not much later, a new camera was bought. It was a Fuji S602Z (which i still own) which gave me so much pleasure to shoot with. The colours were vibrant but the slow af really frustrated me but hey, it is only a prosumer...

    Anyhow, with the encouragement of some of the friends I have met, i started to post my macro shots and of course, alot of them were really poorly taken. But as time went by, I better understood what makes picture stand out. This was only possible wit the generousity of CSers who were ever so kind to share...

    Interestingly, a friend of mine who was abt to start modelling saw some of my pictures of my baby cousin and macro shots and asked if i could shoot for her. I agreed and soon after, her other friends who were models also started asking me if i could help. I was grateful for the opportunity and as i continue to shoot, I also remembered to post my pictures to seek the views of my friends online here in CS.

    And then I posted this shot which I believed was my very best effort ever. I was really happy with it! (Do note that it was still awhile back) I eagerly posted my pictures and the first comment i got was... Pontianak!!

    I was so angry that I was ready to let loose a few choice words at the person but again, someone told me to take a step back and try to seek where this person was coming from. Was he being a troll? Or did he mean something constructive and had no proper grasp of language to express his views? Again, it was a fellow CSer who showed me what taking a step back can do...

    All these while, I continued to shoot and join friends whom I have met here for coffee outings, SEEDs or photo outings all over Singapore. As more pictures were taken, offers to shoot events came in (but I was told that i will not be paid, but only credits will be given) andI plunged ahead, eager to try something new.

    A friend of mine (lets call him D) who then saw my event shots then asked if I could help cover the gig of a local band and i gladly agreed. The pictures were taken, posted here to share but the resulting effect ws something i never expected.

    D then sent the URL of the pictures to a couple of friends and this couple emailed me, asking me to join them for coffee because they too enjoyed photography and they enjoyed my pictures. This was the start of a lovely friendship that I still cherish. In fact, an invitation was extended for me to fly to Melbourne (which i accepted) to take a holiday and to take in the sights but something nicer was in store.

    Another fellow CSer who was studying in Melbourne who found out that i was heading over immediately offered a place for me to stay for 2 weeks. I was so taken aback. Never would I have expected such kindness but it actually happen. (Thanks J)

    Now, as my circle of friends grew, more opportunities came my way and I have recieved so much from all the kindness that was shown to me and this is what CS is to me. For better or worse, bickering and all, I am ever so grateful for CS for being such a lovely place and the springboard where i got so much of advice and opportunities from. It is one of the reasons why I continue to believe and try.

    This is why after all these while, with everything that has happen, I still believe that courtesy, tactfulness and advice can change minds and photographs.

    I hope CS can continue to be such a place where young photographers or newbies are given a chance to shoot, share and perhaps become a better person/photographer as time goes by.

    WG.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smurfman View Post
    Yo, u see, ppl see Clubsnaps differently, but still can tahan each other in CS, so if 1 bothers too see further, 1 can actually sense something.
    Left out something ... I hear a lot of people lamenting that, compare to the time they joined Club Snap, it is no longer the same place. I totally agree, but I sinserely hope that Club Snap changes all the time. Change is the guaranteed constant in life. It is good to change, for better or worse. For the better we embrace, for the worse, we persevere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfgang View Post
    And there I was, trying quite hard to seek advise from somebody, or anybody who could advise a newbie what camera I can buy with a set budget. Terms like, CA, optocal zoom, manual control, storage media et al. flew over my head which basically depressed me.

    Then a kind soul from HWZ (they existed then i guess...) pointed me to this place and from all the friendly advice i got, i plunged ahead and bought my Olympus C700UZ. This camera started me off and served me faithfully as i joined various outings and met alot of like minded people who were keen to share.

    Megaweb was most notable in that sense. Unassuming and ever ready with advice, I slowly learnt to appreciate macro photography (and was showed how macdonald's serviettes works as a flash diffuser). Not much later, a new camera was bought. It was a Fuji S602Z (which i still own) which gave me so much pleasure to shoot with. The colours were vibrant but the slow af really frustrated me but hey, it is only a prosumer...

    Anyhow, with the encouragement of some of the friends I have met, i started to post my macro shots and of course, alot of them were really poorly taken. But as time went by, I better understood what makes picture stand out. This was only possible wit the generousity of CSers who were ever so kind to share...

    Interestingly, a friend of mine who was abt to start modelling saw some of my pictures of my baby cousin and macro shots and asked if i could shoot for her. I agreed and soon after, her other friends who were models also started asking me if i could help. I was grateful for the opportunity and as i continue to shoot, I also remembered to post my pictures to seek the views of my friends online here in CS.

    And then I posted this shot which I believed was my very best effort ever. I was really happy with it! (Do note that it was still awhile back) I eagerly posted my pictures and the first comment i got was... Pontianak!!

    I was so angry that I was ready to let loose a few choice words at the person but again, someone told me to take a step back and try to seek where this person was coming from. Was he being a troll? Or did he mean something constructive and had no proper grasp of language to express his views? Again, it was a fellow CSer who showed me what taking a step back can do...

    All these while, I continued to shoot and join friends whom I have met here for coffee outings, SEEDs or photo outings all over Singapore. As more pictures were taken, offers to shoot events came in (but I was told that i will not be paid, but only credits will be given) andI plunged ahead, eager to try something new.

    A friend of mine (lets call him D) who then saw my event shots then asked if I could help cover the gig of a local band and i gladly agreed. The pictures were taken, posted here to share but the resulting effect ws something i never expected.

    D then sent the URL of the pictures to a couple of friends and this couple emailed me, asking me to join them for coffee because they too enjoyed photography and they enjoyed my pictures. This was the start of a lovely friendship that I still cherish. In fact, an invitation was extended for me to fly to Melbourne (which i accepted) to take a holiday and to take in the sights but something nicer was in store.

    Another fellow CSer who was studying in Melbourne who found out that i was heading over immediately offered a place for me to stay for 2 weeks. I was so taken aback. Never would I have expected such kindness but it actually happen. (Thanks J)

    Now, as my circle of friends grew, more opportunities came my way and I have recieved so much from all the kindness that was shown to me and this is what CS is to me. For better or worse, bickering and all, I am ever so grateful for CS for being such a lovely place and the springboard where i got so much of advice and opportunities from. It is one of the reasons why I continue to believe and try.

    This is why after all these while, with everything that has happen, I still believe that courtesy, tactfulness and advice can change minds and photographs.

    I hope CS can continue to be such a place where young photographers or newbies are given a chance to shoot, share and perhaps become a better person/photographer as time goes by.

    WG.
    It seem like the atmosphere was very good back then, which is really the kind of ClubSNAP spirit most look for, compare to now.

    As can see something like this on newbie asking on advice on this thread shooting events
    some just come up with advice like this
    http://forums.clubsnap.org/showpost....19&postcount=2

    I just feel that CS has become a place for certain parties to push for their agenda and getting more politic, which is sad to see how this forum mature into sometime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zcf View Post
    It seem like the atmosphere was very good back then, which is really the kind of ClubSNAP spirit most look for, compare to now.

    As can see something like this on newbie asking on advice on this thread shooting events
    some just come up with advice like this
    http://forums.clubsnap.org/showpost....19&postcount=2

    I just feel that CS has become a place for certain parties to push for their agenda and getting more politic, which is sad to see how this forum mature into sometime.
    Not just CS.. ppl in hardwarezone was previously very helpful too. Now ...
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    What is Clubsnap depends on how ppl want it to be, instead of blaming on ppl, think abt how to improve urself here.

    I have always been playful here, not really contributing, so i will improve on it. rest assure i will not harrass ppl here, unless the ppl deserve to be slam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Static View Post
    ohhhh..... ahhhhh .... ohhhhh..... arrrrrghhhhh.....
    Please...Boy... U want me to sue you for making funny noise?
    A female dentist just did that to one of her patient.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smurfman View Post
    What is Clubsnap depends on how ppl want it to be, instead of blaming on ppl, think abt how to improve urself here.

    I have always been playful here, not really contributing, so i will improve on it. rest assure i will not harrass ppl here, unless the ppl deserve to be slam.
    A very abrupt u-turn from your initial posting.
    When we learn how to appreciate lousy pictures, itself is already an improvement liao.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silence Sky View Post
    A very abrupt u-turn from your initial posting.
    When we learn how to appreciate lousy pictures, itself is already an improvement liao.
    u noe why?

    WHY???
    Cos only a handfull understands my post here. If ppl know and understands my initial post, they never ask me why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smurfman View Post
    u noe why?

    WHY???
    Cos only a handfull understands my post here. If ppl know and understands my initial post, they never ask me why.
    hahaha, I am not that handfull of people I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smurfman View Post
    What is CS??????

    When i first come here, i thought can learn from master.
    Then i realise that most are amature, some pics really cannot make it.

    So i thought CS is a learning ground, where ppl can learn.
    Then i realise alotta master dun share, cos its secret.
    So ammature goota learn mostly by hit and run.
    Of course got ppl willing to share, but not much.

    So i thought CS is a base for ppl to meet, amature to learn from each other.
    Then i realise its always that same bunch of amatures together.

    So i thought, CS is for what?

    Now for me, CS is a place to buy things, sell things, and sometimes see ppl post pics that are lousy. So i can laugh. By me only. CS is also a place for me to see great marco, landscapes, and i enjoy kopitiam, always see ppl argue till red face, also dun noe for what, popcorns time!!!

    This is what i though of CS.

    I have put my piece on what is CS, u can say ur piece, just dun need to slam me, as that is what i see.
    I beg to differ.. Some people do share but there are people who doesn't want to listen.. I guess in the learning process, the learner has to fall first before they ever learn. So let it be, I am sure many are willing to help those who fall pick themselves up again and that's when they will learn.

    But also don't forget that people have been here some for quite a while, some are new. The skill levels are different. If a kindergarten kid who is learning 1+1 talks to a Mathematics professor, I think he will forever give up maths, because they are not on the same level. What I feel is that those who have progressed to a slightly higher skills level should respond to those on a slightly lower level. Everyone who has benefitted should share also. CS is a place to share for, not for people to just leech.

    And of course, there are people who treat everyone who ask questions like idiots. If these people do not want to answer the questions, they just don't have to respond, no one forces them to respond. Sometimes, it may be a genuine problem although there are cases of PLBV but then again, that's when an answer can help them to learn if it's a PLBV case. Most of the time, we will tend to dig for more information because we need to know if it's a real problem that needs to be solved.
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    Clubsnap is a forum for people to come and learn photography. But most of the time people come here to look at girl photos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silence Sky View Post
    Please...Boy... U want me to sue you for making funny noise?
    A female dentist just did that to one of her patient.
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    CS is also a place for ppl who are too free maybe jobless to go events everyday and shoot models and post here for our enjoyment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yqt View Post
    CS is also a place for ppl who are too free maybe jobless to go events everyday and shoot models and post here for our enjoyment.
    Com'on stop digging him.

    ppl go events take photos and post in CS : Complain
    ppl go events take photos and dun post in CS: Complain CS boring.

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    CS is also a place for ppl who are too free maybe jobless to go events everyday and shoot models and post here for our enjoyment.
    That is a perfect job.

    How many of us wish we can do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sion View Post
    That is a perfect job.

    How many of us wish we can do that.
    Perfect job???

    But have to PAY to shoot and not PAID to shoot you know

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    Quote Originally Posted by yqt View Post
    Perfect job???

    But have to PAY to shoot and not PAID to shoot you know
    Well, why do we need to care about being paid or not, as long as the shooter is happy shooting.

    If I am free or have no worry about money for retirement already, I like to shoot what I enjoy shooting also .

    I think there are some basic differences between commercial photographers and hobbyish photographers.
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    A place to crash.

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