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    You can try to catch a trend or ride a wave, but as we all know every party ends at some time.

    To reduce the risk, you still have to look at the fundamentals of the company - how is their track record, do th earnings look sustainable, does management sound like they know what they're doing, is current price valuation too high, etc. If all ok, then try to ride the wave with your eyes open. If you still get caught, at least you know your share is not worthless and the tide will rise again some day.

    Good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by compro_1975 View Post
    btw wat is blue chip, heard it years back went the economy started to pick up
    blue chips refers to listed companies with a certain big market cap.. eg. SIA, Sembcrop, SPH, F&N, ST Engg, Singtel, Starhub, M1, DBS, UOB, OCBC etc... these are the common ones

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    Default Re: Is there any forum to discuss about the SG stock market?

    wiki is your very best friend

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_chips

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    Quote Originally Posted by raincool2005 View Post
    blue chips refers to listed companies with a certain big market cap.. eg. SIA, Sembcrop, SPH, F&N, ST Engg, Singtel, Starhub, M1, DBS, UOB, OCBC etc... these are the common ones

    Wiki said, "Before its total collapse in 2001, Enron was considered to be a blue chip stock."
    CS says, "We can't help you ignore yourself."

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    Quote Originally Posted by raincool2005 View Post
    the key is buy into good blue chips when market corrects.
    Yep, not chasing this market.

    May buy into STI ETF or China ETF when correction comes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caspere View Post
    Wiki said, "Before its total collapse in 2001, Enron was considered to be a blue chip stock."
    Yes, that can happen

    Safer bet is to buy an ETF. Think lots of blue chip companies bundled into a share. Risk is spread out better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caspere View Post
    Look at the color of the company logo; if it's blue, then its "blue chip", if red, then it's "red chip"

    Similarly, if you find orange, pink, purple, you may designate them accordingly. Quite a standard practice actually..


    Blue chips: Shares of large, stable companies.

    Red chips : Same definition as blue chips. Used on China shares.

    The other colours, I'm not too sure

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    Quote Originally Posted by bernardy4416 View Post
    Safer bet is to buy an ETF. Think lots of blue chip companies bundled into a share. Risk is spread out better.
    Warren Buffett lesson no 4.

    Diversified your investments if you do not know how to invest.
    This will reduce your risk elements.

    If you are calculated risk taker and knowledgable investor.
    Diversified your investment is not an option.

    Btw, sidetrack abit, how many CSers do contra trading?
    Done once and i suffered a heart attack after tat.

    Your blood pressure goes up and down like the market price.

    Last edited by Deceased; 9th February 2007 at 03:01 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceased View Post
    Warren Buffett lesson no 4.

    Diversified your investments if you do not know how to invest.
    This will reduce your risk elements.

    If you are calculated risk taker and knowledgable investor.
    Diversified your investment is not an option.

    Btw, sidetrack abit, how many CSers do contra trading?
    Done once and i suffered a heart attack after tat.

    Your blood pressure goes up and down like the market price.


    No contra trading for me.

    Buy with whatever cash I can spare and not have to with market movements.

    Hold a poll and find out

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    Quote Originally Posted by raincool2005 View Post
    as a seasoned stock trader, i would advise you to stay out in the month of Feb. You are late and if u buy now, you are buying the highs making those who bought last year rich. It is now less than 14 days from Chinese New Year... after the festival is done and over, reality kicks in.

    Wait for March, April or May. U will see cheaper stocks. Hope my advice helps.
    Does that mean that it is a good time to sell stocks now and buy back later in March/April/May?

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    Quote Originally Posted by seankyh View Post
    Does that mean that it is a good time to sell stocks now and buy back later in March/April/May?
    If everybody or anyone knows this for sure, will the market still do what you expect?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caspere View Post
    Look at the color of the company logo; if it's blue, then its "blue chip", if red, then it's "red chip"

    Similarly, if you find orange, pink, purple, you may designate them accordingly. Quite a standard practice actually..
    Singtel- Red Chips
    Starhub - Green Chips
    M1 - Orange Chips
    Lay's -Potato Chips
    Long John Silver - Fish & Chips
    “How fortunate for leaders that men do not think.” - Adolf Hitler

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    Quote Originally Posted by yanyewkay View Post
    Singtel- Red Chips
    Starhub - Green Chips
    M1 - Orange Chips
    Lay's -Potato Chips
    Long John Silver - Fish & Chips
    Genting - dunno wat chip but got numbers on it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caspere View Post
    If everybody or anyone knows this for sure, will the market still do what you expect?
    Not everyone. Just the enlightened ones in ClubSnap

    Selling stocks now..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caspere View Post
    If everybody or anyone knows this for sure, will the market still do what you expect?



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    As good as it gets. . .??

    FWIW, since I m involved somewhat in this line, allow me to suggest my understanding of what's happening or not..

    In the stocks market::

    There are always these renewal of fundmanagers, and fund / trading house likes it becos they (young fund managers) never scared before unlike those uncle fund managers. All these new gungho-ness is replicated across these region, by the influx of funds from all these new $$$ coming from the new wealth, new private equity and borrowed money (Hedge funds, carry trades), and of course, people like us around the globe. (I m also tempted suggest black/illegal money, but then I might be asked to prove, so I rather not mention.)

    Of course these phenomenon is not just in stock markets, observe the bond markets, commodities, metals etc.

    Backtrack a bit; before LTCM collapse, it was the PhDs there who betted that "things" like these would normalize quickly. However, the PhDs were wrong and the company they work for collaspe big time. After that, it normalize.

    Fast forward today, "things" are going crazy again, and liquidity (excessive amounts of money) are driving everything up or down to new levels. Would it normalize? Or this is the NEW NORMAL?

    If you have the definitive answer to this, we should put you on TV. Becos all the PhDs in financial/economics are all scratching their heads (or balls/backside) what to make of this. Some are very sure, some less so. For those who are pretty sure, they would have betted their money.

    My take? GREED.

    "All things being equal, the simplest solution tends to be the best one."
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_razor


    For the AhSeng and AhLian explanation..

    Two hands; GREED on the right, KiaSu on the left.

    Greed will chase the profit, KiaSu will follow. . . . . . KiaSi le ?

    KiaSi cash out already when hit STI 2800 , now eating bread.
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    This just came in on my Bloomberg.

    Fund Investors Make $1 Trillion Bet on the World: Chet Currier
    2007-02-09 00:11 (New York)

    Commentary by Chet Currier
    Feb. 9 (Bloomberg) -- While others debate the pluses and
    minuses of economic globalization, U.S. mutual-fund investors
    have embraced it big time.
    In just the past three years they have raised their stake in
    international and global funds by almost $1 trillion. How's that
    for a bold strategic asset-allocation move?
    Most of these people, 96 million strong, aren't big risk-
    takers by nature. They're typically conservative, month-by-month
    contributors to retirement plans who have nobody to impress but
    themselves.
    They have always been considered insular, almost
    isolationist, in their investment thinking. Once they decided to
    go global, they acted fast.
    At the end of 2003, according to data I dug up on the Web
    site of Financial Research Corp., a Boston consulting firm,
    international and global funds based in the U.S. held about $630
    billion. By the end of 2006, the total had soared to $1.6
    trillion.
    Other types of funds grew too, but much more slowly. Three
    years ago, by my math, the world funds made up 16 percent of the
    total in all equity funds. Now it's 26 percent.
    Some of this came from appreciation of existing investments,
    the rest from a rush of new money. In 2006, according to FRC,
    international and global funds attracted $193 billion, or two-
    thirds of all the net new inflows into stock and bond funds of
    all types. In 2005, world funds pulled in $163 billion, or about
    63 cents of every dollar.

    Strong Showing

    With this kind of strong, steady demand, small wonder that
    markets in other parts of the world have handily outperformed
    U.S. stocks. As of the middle of this week, international and
    global funds tracked by Bloomberg sported a 19 percent annual
    gain over the last three years, compared with 11 percent for
    domestic growth, value, aggressive growth and growth-and-income
    funds.
    As we said a few paragraphs above, U.S. fund investors'
    allocation to international and global funds has jumped since
    2003 to 26 percent from 16 percent. They have done what so many
    financial advisers long urged them to do, bringing their
    international allocation up to about 25 percent.
    Mission accomplished -- and now what? Throughout financial
    history, the common pattern is for a mass movement like this to
    overshoot, setting up everybody involved for a painful letdown.
    How long can dozens of single-country and regional funds, from
    Russia and India to Latin America, keep climbing 30 percent or
    more annually, as they have over the past five years?

    Playing Safe

    But those high-risk, concentrated funds aren't the ones
    where the big money is going. A check of FRC's list of the 10
    best-selling individual funds of 2006 shows five world funds, all
    of them broadly diversified and devoted to a relatively
    conservative investment style.
    They include the American Funds' $83 billion Capital World
    Growth & Income Fund and the $99 billion American EuroPacific
    Growth Fund from the same group; the $34 billion Dodge & Cox
    International Stock Fund; the $39 billion Ishares MSCI EAFE Index
    exchange-traded fund, and the $47 billion Fidelity Diversified
    International Fund. Not a country fund or even an emerging-
    markets fund in the bunch.
    Make no mistake, there are real risks lurking in all this.
    Fund investors in particular, and the world in general, have
    exposed an awful lot of their money to the heightened hazards
    that have always come with international investing.
    How will newcomers to global markets react, say, to some new
    terrorist attack, or some unexpected political rift that
    threatens the flow of trade and capital between the U.S. and the
    emerging powerhouses of China and India?

    Cool It

    At the very least, now that U.S. fund owners have reached
    the long-recommended levels of overseas-stock allocations, maybe
    it's a good time to ease off on the flows. At some point enough
    becomes too much.
    However things play out from here, U.S. fund investors have
    made a statement that is hard to ignore. The world really has
    changed, they have concluded. The economy in which they live is
    increasingly global, not national.
    Though setbacks may, and probably will, come along from time
    to time, mutual-fund investors as a group have spoken with
    considerable authority: Globalization is a done deal.

    (Chet Currier is a Bloomberg News columnist. The opinions
    expressed are his own.)
    CS says, "We can't help you ignore yourself."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Astin View Post
    Genting - dunno wat chip but got numbers on it
    oh.. those are worthless chips. If you happen to have any pass them to me. I 'dispose' of them for you
    “How fortunate for leaders that men do not think.” - Adolf Hitler

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    Quote Originally Posted by yanyewkay View Post
    oh.. those are worthless chips. If you happen to have any pass them to me. I 'dispose' of them for you
    To transfer from one name to another name, CDP charges $100 plus 5% GST. Maybe still worth it.
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    To win in stock market, u must control yr greed and yr fear, sadly most ppl either cannot control their greed, or cannot control their fear, or cannot control both their greed and fear.

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