Last edited by reachme2003; 6th February 2007 at 05:41 PM.
If you're shooting for the model's portfolio or the intention is to create an image of a beautiful model, than Yes, I will agreed with you. The model will most likely have seen more images of herself than you have, to know what is her best angle and assets and how best to present them ( But she must not take over control ).
But if you're creating your own image/vision/concept, than only you will have a 100% image of how the image will look like. You can try to comunicate the idea to the model but you, the photographer, must direct the model. Her best angle or assets, presented in the best way, may not be the best in this case and only you will know.
So, we're back to sq 1, What do you want from the shoot?
If the photographer don't have a clear direction of what he/she wants from the shoot, how is he/she going to direct?
There are many good views.
Looking at the situation as a whole and as the question was first put forward.
As you mentioned, the organizer is not a photographer so with this in mind.....
Of the 6 that gain entrance, that 2 or 3 are not new at this kind of shoot.
Allow each of the 2 or 3 to work with the model for their shots in the first 2 hours.
As each of the select 2 or 3 work, before changing, the newbies are given time to take their shots too.
The newbies are encouraged to question the seasoned 2 or 3 as to why.
In the 3rd hour the seasoned 2 or 3 stand back and watch the newbies at work, assisting as they can.
Ok this is a very broad idea and not in depth reguarding makeup/ dress/ etc.
But if given the question, this is probably my starting point of thought.
That being, I can have 6 people with cameras for a shoot ... how would I start.
Time, is an effortless construction :)
the worst is to have very selfish photographer:
1)elbow me while getting a shoot
2)keep on SHOUTING (very near) to the model to look at him
To share and to guild is being kind and nobel. But we have to remember that this is a paid shoot where the photographers, regardless seasoned or not paid to shoot. And if we go as you have suggested, than it seems that it is expected of the seasoned photographers to guild the newbies along. The newbies coming to the shoot will also come with the impression in mind that they will be guilded along by a season photographer at the shoot.
If the season photographer meets a newbie whom he just can't click with, he still have to guild him along as this is expected of him ( the season photographers have, after all been given a special session to take charge and shoot 1 on 1 for the the first 2 hours ).
And if the newbie, for one reason or another feels that he's not getting the right/enough guildance, would he not felt short changed?
As I said, very good points from Pablo, but it may be more be suited for a free or TFCD. Not, in my opinion, for a paid shoot
Just my 2 cts worth.
Let me twist the situation a bit.
1 model, very hot model, 10-12 photographers.
Organiser is the hands off type. Go shoot was the last instruction.
You have 3 hours. What will you do and how to get a decent picture?
Bare in mind, it's 9:30am in the morning, shoot started behind schedule, and by 11am, the lights will be hast and not reallyusable for any decent shot. Shades? Not really.
in the first place, why take up so many as the organiser?
the organiser should be whacked.
all this for more profit?or what?
make sure all the photogs know there are going to be 12 photogs.
else if i sign up not knowing, i'll surely ask for refund and i'll walk out of the shoot.
10-12 is like maciam car show everyone free and easy shooting the racequeens.
really no diff.
timing of shoot;
1st outfit - 1 hour
2nd outfit - 1 hour
3rd outfit - 1 hour
(provide 5 mins break for model between change of outfits to touch up own makeup/rest.)
for each outfit, pair up 2 photogs per session of 20 mins. each photog in the team of 2 will take turns being the main photog and dictates the lighting and pose of the model for 10 mins. the other photog in the team will shoot from the sidelines (just behind the main photog) without using flash and without getting in the way of the main photog. 6 photogs = 3 teams of 2 x 20 mins each = 1 hour per outfit x 3 outfits = 3 hrs.
the rest of the photogs, while waiting their turn, can plan ahead what lighting/poses they want to achieve, or to share their pics/discuss with the rest.
1)does the model leave ON THE DOT?as in say shoot ends at 3pm.
so at 3pm zun zun on the dot she will say, 'times up, that's all folks'.
2)20 minutes each group according to zaren.
seriously, newbies like me, 20 minutes can take how many shots ah?
when i shot my friends, it took me so long to get to the correct pose.not to mention looking out for the elements like messy hair, chopped off thumb and such.
maybe you guys are damn experienced.
but coming from a newbie POV,20 mins for me, i confirm stressed.
is 20mins seriously enough to shoot 1 outfit?
shouldnt the organiser limit change of outfits?
i reckon 2 outfits shall do the trick.