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    think we shld have a rating system for PG and VG

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    Quote Originally Posted by Del_CtrlnoAlt View Post
    U married?

    Static... so how? got anybody contact you regarding the videography yet?
    Thks DCA

    It was really very tough trying to find one so last min.

    Approached one of the professional production house and they managed to arranged 1 freelancer who they had work closely with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canonised View Post
    To TS, the first mistake you made was that you did not make an effort to meet him in person, since the time grace was rather long, as well as you know it is your important event. Meet him and commit him, preferably in B/W.
    But now it's over, maybe you should get over this and not that it to affect yr plan, look for another one. Best wishes ....
    Met him only once
    Requested to meet up to pay down payment to him but he said no need.

    shinken
    Ya i trying to stinge on videography becuz already got a pro photographer from a package and is busting my budget. Lucky gf agree wif me that photography is more impt than videography

    I agree wif paul that we should have a rating for PG and VG

    I am SOooo desperate yday that i even tot of engaging SGvideoman.. but then i worried that he would just shoot the pretty babes and not me
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    the lesson to be gleaned from this espisode is to stick to established, not necessarily, reputable, service vendor. while there is no guarantee against 'no-shows', etc, it minimizes the down side. all the best on your 'big' day.

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    Static,

    I'm sorry to hear that your wife to be and yourself got put through this. Like what the others had mentioned in their posts, you should have had a contract drafted out and made David L** sign it to commit to the task. I hope everyone else who intends to hire him as their Videographer takes 1 minute to reconsider awarding the task to him. Don't let this joker take them for a ride. I'm glad you managed to source a replacement for your big day. Best wishes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klose View Post
    Static,

    I'm sorry to hear that your wife to be and yourself got put through this. Like what the others had mentioned in their posts, you should have had a contract drafted out and made David L** sign it to commit to the task. I hope everyone else who intends to hire him as their Videographer takes 1 minute to reconsider awarding the task to him. Don't let this joker take them for a ride. I'm glad you managed to source a replacement for your big day. Best wishes.
    is it really possible to have freelancer sign a contract...

    usually all this is by recommendation, and most probably discussion is over the phone.. where got time to meet up and do all this stuffs for a few hundred dollars...

    n lets say u managed to sign a contract and he failed to deliver, will u want to spend money and time to sue the bugger in court...

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    A service contract is a definite must, even if they're a freelancer.
    If they don't draft the simple contract, you draft it.
    It protects both the client and the service provider....and if one party refuses to sign it, it means that either party isn't sincere. Contracts are also meant to be negotiable, so if you think there's a clause that you're not confortable with, say it out and re-draft the contract.

    All these can be done without the aid of lawyers as long as the contract is in simple english. Purpose of the contract should be clear....i've successfully took a company to small claims because they've decided to rip me off as a freelance individual.

    Coming from a service provider's point of view, sometimes it is very difficult for us as well.
    On one hand, we might think that it may offend our clients because we don't trust them, but I've got couples who booked for my services, but just two days prior to their weddings, they'd tell me that they've found a relative or friend who can shoot for them.

    Business is business, and sometimes, talking about ethics is crap....as far as a true/professional service provider is concerned, reputation and professionalism is very important to them.

    However, having said that, there are also some business person who are just out to make easy money.....I kinda call these kinda people "Hiong-sters"...they are just out to make a quick buck and get away with it.........but there are just some clients who are just plain painful as well.....they think they can pay peanuts and get real pro humans.
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    yes, it is a written contract between two parties. regardless, freelancer or otherwise.

    Quote Originally Posted by auron View Post
    is it really possible to have freelancer sign a contract...

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    Quote Originally Posted by auron View Post
    is it really possible to have freelancer sign a contract...

    usually all this is by recommendation, and most probably discussion is over the phone.. where got time to meet up and do all this stuffs for a few hundred dollars...

    n lets say u managed to sign a contract and he failed to deliver, will u want to spend money and time to sue the bugger in court...
    Yes. You call it an written agreement.

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    If I am right. I think I found the fella's nick on CS.

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    maybe TS should disclose David L** cs nick for the benefit of all.
    such attitude is not acceptable...

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    sorry to hear about your bad experience
    and congratuations on your big day

    but always trust your important day to someone with good reputation and experience

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    let's give him an opportunity, instead of shaming him.

    the purpose is to warn people about the creditability of some freelancers... so the purpose has served, and let's not go on shaming and cut the wounds deeper.

    The freelancers is guilty for the mess, but let's get this thread to serve as a purpose to give wedding couples and those freelancers what to prevent.

    The freelancers is to be blamed for the mess, but the TS was actually 'taking risk' when he balanced the 'professionality','price','quality'..and he decided to take risk on the higher risk, and most return..

    make this incident to strengthen your relationship, and maybe u will be appreciated this incidents have actually come to a right time to make your big day..bigger than ever.

    and he seems like has some problems that had troubled him too.. let's be gracious to forgive him, so one more person is blessing for you somewhere..
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    Quote Originally Posted by LENS View Post
    let's give him an opportunity, instead of shaming him.

    the purpose is to warn people about the creditability of some freelancers... so the purpose has served, and let's not go on shaming and cut the wounds deeper.

    The freelancers is guilty for the mess, but let's get this thread to serve as a purpose to give wedding couples and those freelancers what to prevent.

    The freelancers is to be blamed for the mess, but the TS was actually 'taking risk' when he balanced the 'professionality','price','quality'..and he decided to take risk on the higher risk, and most return..

    make this incident to strengthen your relationship, and maybe u will be appreciated this incidents have actually come to a right time to make your big day..bigger than ever.

    and he seems like has some problems that had troubled him too.. let's be gracious to forgive him, so one more person is blessing for you somewhere..
    i feel otherwise. this person needs to be singled out so as not to taint the REST of the freelancers.

    i was a freelancer once, a dedicated one, and upheld morals and professionalism the best way i knew how, and was always upset when one freelancer screws up and the rest of us gets the wrap.

    like.. when a FREELANCE photographer molested a bride, and suddenly all freelancers were dirty old men... i even had a customer email me and ask if i had any records of sexual crimes.. wat was i gonna reply, say yes but i have repented??? for the record, ans is no...

    anywayz.. sorree for long-windedness... i think if wat is stated here is true, identify the f***er and clear the name for all other freelancers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jOhO View Post
    i feel otherwise. this person needs to be singled out so as not to taint the REST of the freelancers.

    i was a freelancer once, a dedicated one, and upheld morals and professionalism the best way i knew how, and was always upset when one freelancer screws up and the rest of us gets the wrap.

    like.. when a FREELANCE photographer molested a bride, and suddenly all freelancers were dirty old men... i even had a customer email me and ask if i had any records of sexual crimes.. wat was i gonna reply, say yes but i have repented??? for the record, ans is no...

    anywayz.. sorree for long-windedness... i think if wat is stated here is true, identify the f***er and clear the name for all other freelancers.

    damn freelancer molested bride?now that's NEW to me.
    you sure you have no records?what about stealing angbow $?
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    k lah...teasing your armpits niah.

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    oh btw static, i actually already read ur thread in the middle of the night when u first posted, just too tired to reply ehhe..

    anyway congrats on ur wedding, and i can feel how angry u might be. he duah u nvm, still so smuck in his replies, that's the cherry on the cake man. u are still pretty cool abt it, if me.. i dunno how man.

    well have a great day nevertheless!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LENS View Post
    let's give him an opportunity, instead of shaming him.

    the purpose is to warn people about the creditability of some freelancers... so the purpose has served, and let's not go on shaming and cut the wounds deeper.

    The freelancers is guilty for the mess, but let's get this thread to serve as a purpose to give wedding couples and those freelancers what to prevent.

    The freelancers is to be blamed for the mess, but the TS was actually 'taking risk' when he balanced the 'professionality','price','quality'..and he decided to take risk on the higher risk, and most return..

    make this incident to strengthen your relationship, and maybe u will be appreciated this incidents have actually come to a right time to make your big day..bigger than ever.

    and he seems like has some problems that had troubled him too.. let's be gracious to forgive him, so one more person is blessing for you somewhere..

    i have to agree with you on this one.there's always 2 side to a story.
    we havent even listen to the other one.
    but no matter what, i still feel sorry for static gena played out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeanie View Post
    damn freelancer molested bride?now that's NEW to me.
    you sure you have no records?what about stealing angbow $?
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    k lah...teasing your armpits niah.
    yesterday u lick.. today u tease.. aiyoh.. how am i to keep up?

    *this is NOT the thread to OT in my dear*

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    Quote Originally Posted by LENS View Post
    let's give him an opportunity, instead of shaming him.

    the purpose is to warn people about the creditability of some freelancers... so the purpose has served, and let's not go on shaming and cut the wounds deeper.

    The freelancers is guilty for the mess, but let's get this thread to serve as a purpose to give wedding couples and those freelancers what to prevent.

    The freelancers is to be blamed for the mess, but the TS was actually 'taking risk' when he balanced the 'professionality','price','quality'..and he decided to take risk on the higher risk, and most return..

    make this incident to strengthen your relationship, and maybe u will be appreciated this incidents have actually come to a right time to make your big day..bigger than ever.

    and he seems like has some problems that had troubled him too.. let's be gracious to forgive him, so one more person is blessing for you somewhere..
    Quote Originally Posted by jOhO View Post
    i feel otherwise. this person needs to be singled out so as not to taint the REST of the freelancers.

    i was a freelancer once, a dedicated one, and upheld morals and professionalism the best way i knew how, and was always upset when one freelancer screws up and the rest of us gets the wrap.

    like.. when a FREELANCE photographer molested a bride, and suddenly all freelancers were dirty old men... i even had a customer email me and ask if i had any records of sexual crimes.. wat was i gonna reply, say yes but i have repented??? for the record, ans is no...

    anywayz.. sorree for long-windedness... i think if wat is stated here is true, identify the f***er and clear the name for all other freelancers.
    Agree with joho. Whether it's a freelancer, or a MNC, a contract is a contract. A verbal contract is equally enforcable as one in writing. Unfortunately, a verbal contract is much more difficult to proof.

    Second chance? Why? Did anyone thought about there is no second chance to shoot the couple's wedding? What, they re-stage the whole thing for the idiiot to shoot in a latter date?

    A contract is a contract. What really irks me is, if all said is true, why is the freelancer's name/nick not posted? What is the TS afraid of?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deadpoet View Post
    Agree with joho. Whether it's a freelancer, or a MNC, a contract is a contract. A verbal contract is equally enforcable as one in writing. Unfortunately, a verbal contract is much more difficult to proof.

    Second chance? Why? Did anyone thought about there is no second chance to shoot the couple's wedding? What, they re-stage the whole thing for the idiiot to shoot in a latter date?

    A contract is a contract. What really irks me is, if all said is true, why is the freelancer's name/nick not posted? What is the TS afraid of?

    I agree totally.

    Maybe the TS is a humble type of person that does not want for commotion .....

    But with that said, why post it in the first place and start a witch hunt for the freelancer
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