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mlowjl · 18th December 2006

Hi, I'm new here and new to SLR photography. Took the plunge 3 weeks ago and got a D80 (kit). Would appreciate some CC on this candid of my son: he was wandering around the kitchen so I just grabbed the camera and hoped for the best. I meant for the focus to fall on his hands but I wish I'd got his face in focus too. CC please! I'm still working my way around the camera and working on composition and angles etc, so I'll take all the feedback I can get!

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mlowjl · 19th December 2006

And if it sucks, you can tell me too. I can take it

zac08 · 19th December 2006

At 85mm, you tried a 1/30 sec at f5.6 with a ISO of 250.

This may cause a lil shakiness if your grip isn't good enough. Do consider using a slighly higher ISO of say 400 indoors to increase your shutter speed. Try using the Aperture priority mode, it allows you to play around with the aperture to control the DOF better. Mebbe f7.1 to f8 may give u a more optimum sharpness for your kit lens. So much for the technical side.

On the composition side, do watch the top of the picture, seems like a table top. Try to keep it out of the pic as it has cropped your son's head slightly. Your attempt to get to your son's eye level is a good idea.

Just practise more and watch for surroundings when u shoot.

mlowjl · 19th December 2006

Yup that was a table top and I was squatting

Thanks for the CC! I have ISO set on 400 for indoors now LOL.

zac08 · 19th December 2006

Originally Posted by mlowjl

Yup that was a table top and I was squatting Thanks for the CC! I have ISO set on 400 for indoors now LOL.

Sometimes I have to prone down to capture kids...

mlowjl · 19th December 2006

What I really need help with is capturing the kids moving/walking/running etc or just doing stuff indoors without motion blur. I tried Shutter priority with shutter 1/200, ISO 320 (or 400, I can't remember) AND flash (TTL). Pics come out ok for sharpness but with irritating shadows and strange tint if I don't get the angle right.

Zac08, if you're still reading (or anyone else for that matter), what's your advice?

Or is the wrong place to post this ...

zac08 · 20th December 2006

Originally Posted by mlowjl

What I really need help with is capturing the kids moving/walking/running etc or just doing stuff indoors without motion blur. I tried Shutter priority with shutter 1/200, ISO 320 (or 400, I can't remember) AND flash (TTL). Pics come out ok for sharpness but with irritating shadows and strange tint if I don't get the angle right.

Zac08, if you're still reading (or anyone else for that matter), what's your advice?

Or is the wrong place to post this ...

at 1/200, you're under-exposing the picture by quite a few stops esp for indoors situation. The only way I can get 1/200 at my place would be to bump the ISO up to 3200 and aperture at f2.8 (room only lit with flourouscent lighting)... Not what you'd want for normal shots anyway. Plus, you're using a kit lens which is maxed out at f4 - f5.6.

Shadows from flashes may be caused by the lens hood (esp at wide angles and when you use the pop-up flash) Try without the lens hood.

Tints? May be a lens issue, may be a lighting issue. Can't really tell until we see the pics.

My suggestion is to get a faster lens like a f1.8 or f1.4 (if u haf the dough), else you can also invest in a flash gun and bounce the flash upwards to get a more even lighting...

mlowjl · 20th December 2006

I don't have a lens hood. Guess the shadow is from the light falling at an awkward angle. I'd post the pics now but I don't have time to get them off the camera, resize, upload etc - I have to run a few errands NOW and get to office. Maybe tomorrow.

Yes I now realise that maybe I should invest in a 1.8 or 2.8 lens

Hmmm, maybe time to go see Sam at John 3:16 ...

Thanks for your help! Can you tell I'm new at this LOL.

Feinwerkbau · 20th December 2006

Bounced or diffused flash would work very well with kids.

A lot cheaper than getting 1.2-1.8 lenses. Also, if you're imaginative, it can give you very natural looking results.

mlowjl · 23rd December 2006

Thanks Fein! Yes I think I should get a flash, but I should also get a 1.8 (or 1.4

), right?

zac08 · 23rd December 2006

Originally Posted by mlowjl

Thanks Fein! Yes I think I should get a flash, but I should also get a 1.8 (or 1.4 ), right?

Well, take it as an excuse lor....

18th December 2006	#1
mlowjl New Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: In the east Posts: 38	oven Hi, I'm new here and new to SLR photography. Took the plunge 3 weeks ago and got a D80 (kit). Would appreciate some CC on this candid of my son: he was wandering around the kitchen so I just grabbed the camera and hoped for the best. I meant for the focus to fall on his hands but I wish I'd got his face in focus too. CC please! I'm still working my way around the camera and working on composition and angles etc, so I'll take all the feedback I can get! [IMG][/IMG]

19th December 2006	#2
mlowjl New Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: In the east Posts: 38	Re: oven And if it sucks, you can tell me too. I can take it

19th December 2006	#3
zac08 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: East Posts: 10,959	Re: oven At 85mm, you tried a 1/30 sec at f5.6 with a ISO of 250. This may cause a lil shakiness if your grip isn't good enough. Do consider using a slighly higher ISO of say 400 indoors to increase your shutter speed. Try using the Aperture priority mode, it allows you to play around with the aperture to control the DOF better. Mebbe f7.1 to f8 may give u a more optimum sharpness for your kit lens. So much for the technical side. On the composition side, do watch the top of the picture, seems like a table top. Try to keep it out of the pic as it has cropped your son's head slightly. Your attempt to get to your son's eye level is a good idea. Just practise more and watch for surroundings when u shoot. __________________ Michael Lim My Flickr Site APAD 2009

19th December 2006	#4
mlowjl New Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: In the east Posts: 38	Re: oven Yup that was a table top and I was squatting Thanks for the CC! I have ISO set on 400 for indoors now LOL.

19th December 2006	#6
mlowjl New Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: In the east Posts: 38	Re: oven What I really need help with is capturing the kids moving/walking/running etc or just doing stuff indoors without motion blur. I tried Shutter priority with shutter 1/200, ISO 320 (or 400, I can't remember) AND flash (TTL). Pics come out ok for sharpness but with irritating shadows and strange tint if I don't get the angle right. Zac08, if you're still reading (or anyone else for that matter), what's your advice? Or is the wrong place to post this ...

20th December 2006	#8
mlowjl New Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: In the east Posts: 38	Re: oven I don't have a lens hood. Guess the shadow is from the light falling at an awkward angle. I'd post the pics now but I don't have time to get them off the camera, resize, upload etc - I have to run a few errands NOW and get to office. Maybe tomorrow. Yes I now realise that maybe I should invest in a 1.8 or 2.8 lens Hmmm, maybe time to go see Sam at John 3:16 ... Thanks for your help! Can you tell I'm new at this LOL.

20th December 2006	#9
Feinwerkbau Deregistered Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 836	Re: oven Bounced or diffused flash would work very well with kids. A lot cheaper than getting 1.2-1.8 lenses. Also, if you're imaginative, it can give you very natural looking results.

23rd December 2006	#10
mlowjl New Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: In the east Posts: 38	Re: oven Thanks Fein! Yes I think I should get a flash, but I should also get a 1.8 (or 1.4 ), right?