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    Shall I close This thread before any WWW3 started... Thanks for all your comments and postin here.. Just tot tat I wan to share something here... Did not except it to turn out like tat...

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    Quote Originally Posted by soldier View Post
    To newbies like me, any book on photography is a good book. Any comments, harsh or complimenting, is good comments. It makes you want to shoot more, and makes you wants to improve.

    Realistic guides are good enough. I must learn how to crawl before learning how to walk. To tell you the truth, even if I were to look at the pictures of the masters you mentioned, I may not understand what they are trying to show. Only through rules, be it master photographer or not, will I be able to learn. And I think what the TS had "copied" +_+ are valuable information for people like me. Then after I learnt what are they for, I will break it, as what DP had mentioned.

    Even comments from people who know nuts about photography, to tell me "hey your pic looks funny leh" will alert me to look at my photo again and think of what is wrong.

    No offense to you, student.
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    TS? U mean mi... haha
    Last edited by excelglsi; 17th December 2006 at 10:55 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by excelglsi View Post
    Thanks


    TS? U mean mi... haha
    yeah you thanks for the information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KNIGHT ONG View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by student View Post
    What is bothering me is people like you.
    hmm... can i quote this? promise me u dun report to mod ok?

    anyway, do i sound like a threat to u? I wonder y was i always labelled by u to be a lackey of DP... and u always beat around the bush to insult me... your hatred for him have spread to a point anybody who ain't on your side is an enemy...

    Doc, try to open up abit, i still wanna be your friend... we're all friends here in CS, y be so bitter over nothing? cheer up...
    Logging Off. "You have 2,631 messages stored, of a total 400 allowed." don't PM me.

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    Hey doc, thanks for sharing this with us. Even seasoned pros and those who have shot for many years needs a little reminder once in a while. A good "refresher".

    Thanks again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by excelglsi View Post
    Cut and paste from Tally Ho: Not from mi...
    Just wan to share to my fellow newbie like mi..

    TWENTY FIVE RULES

    FOR BETTER PORTRAITURE




    I obtained these rules from "The Master Book of Portraiture and Studio Management" by Don Peterson, Master Photographer, Photographic Craftsman. Published by Studio Press, Twain Harte, CA.

    Correct Posing Stool Height- Knee high for normal subjects, two to three inches lower for thin subjects, full height for heavy set subjects.

    Solid Pyramidal Base- The body should not be turned away from the camera any more than 45 degrees. Any further and the head has no solid foundation for support.

    Sit Tall- No round shoulders or slumping over.

    Lean Forward Slightly-"Over the belt buckle." This eliminates the static straight up and down look and will give a feeling of motion to the portrait.

    Project The Chin-If your subject has a full or double chin, projecting the chin and a slightly higher camera position should remove it.

    Proper Eye Direction-Generally speaking, the eyes should follow the direction of the nose.

    Proper Head Tilt- Never tip a manís head to the high (feminine) shoulder as he will look feminine. Women's heads can be tipped toward either shoulder, but the feminine shoulder is more appealing.

    Proper Camera Height-Eye level for head and shoulders, chin level to chest level for ĺ length and chest level to waist level for full length portraits. An even lower camera height for heavy set brides will add height and dignity to the subject.

    Avoid Football Shoulders-Shoulders should be turned 30 to 45 degrees away from the camera depending on the weight of the subject. The thinner the subject, the less you should turn the shoulders.

    Watch the Nose and Cheek Line-The far eye should either been seen or not seen but never Ĺ of it. This will also prevent your subjectís nose from looking large and obtrusive.

    Watch Recessed Cheek Line with Glasses. I usually have the subject obtain empty eyeglass frames which will solve the problem immediately. Otherwise you may have sacrifice good lighting and turn the head straight toward the camera.

    Watch Main Light Shadow on Lip-A shadow across the serious face is OK, but a shadow across a smiling face will darken the front teeth.

    Donít Overuse Hair and Accent Lights-The hair light should skim the hair, not blast it. Same for the accent lights.

    If It Bends, Bend It-Wherever there is a joint, "break" it.

    Donít Stack Hands-Either on top of one another or on top of the knees. Seperate them and place them between the joints.

    Subdue the Near hand-The hand(s) nearest to the lens will appear larger than what they actually are. Make sure they are not projected toward the lens.

    Keep Hands Within The Range of Focus-If the hands show in a portrait, they should be in focus.

    Place the Weight on the Back Foot-(Standing poses.) This will put the hips and shoulders at a pleasing angle. (An addendum of the "If It Bends" rule.)

    Watch Feet, Hip, and Shoulder Position-(Gals) The foot nearest the camera, should be pointed toward the camera, have no weight on it, and she should bend her knee and foot slightly toward the other leg. This will **** the foot up on its edge and give a pleasing "S" curve to her body.

    Do Not Photograph Two Heads at the Same Height- Ideally the eyes of the shorter subject (usually the female) should be at the same height as the lips of the taller subject.

    Have No Head Directly Above Another-All heads should not only be at different heights (rule 20) but also not directly above or below another subject.

    Avoid Crotch Shots-Raising the leg closest leg to the camera in a standing pose (and putting it on a posing stool) or raising the closest leg in a seated pose will prevent shooting up the subjectís crotch.

    Use The Right Key and Good Taste-Generally speaking a subject dressed in all white, looks best in a medium to high key background. Conversely, a subject dressed in dark clothing looks best on a medium to dark (low key) background.

    If The Subject Has Two of Them, Try and Make Them Different. Hands, at different levels are more interesting than hands foldedor side by side. Same with feet, knees, hips, arms, shoulders and elbows.

    Donít Photograph The Back of Women's Hands. Always photograph the side of women's hands. Fists are masculine, open hands are feminine.

    Another good book is "BODY PARTS-Don Blairís Guide To Lighting and Posing."

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    Quote Originally Posted by microcosm View Post
    Hey doc, thanks for sharing this with us. Even seasoned pros and those who have shot for many years needs a little reminder once in a while. A good "refresher".

    Thanks again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by excelglsi View Post
    Watch Feet, Hip, and Shoulder Position-(Gals) The foot nearest the camera, should be pointed toward the camera, have no weight on it, and she should bend her knee and foot slightly toward the other leg. This will **** the foot up on its edge and give a pleasing "S" curve to her body.
    Generally I'd think this should be avoided. It makes the person's feet looks like a stump. IMHO generally feet shouldn't be pointed at the camera unless you wish to achieve something special. Good perhaps if you're going for 1/2 body shots or 3/4 body shots.
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    If there is one rule to sum it all,

    it's: You break and keep the rules in photography.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unseen View Post
    Generally I'd think this should be avoided. It makes the person's feet looks like a stump. IMHO generally feet shouldn't be pointed at the camera unless you wish to achieve something special. Good perhaps if you're going for 1/2 body shots or 3/4 body shots.
    the pose is being proven, no doubt is one of the best standing pose for female.
    Watch Feet, Hip, and Shoulder Position-(Gals) The foot nearest the camera, should be pointed toward the camera, have no weight on it, and she should bend her knee and foot slightly toward the other leg. This will **** the foot up on its edge and give a pleasing "S" curve to her body.


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    Thanks catchlight ...
    Last edited by excelglsi; 2nd March 2007 at 05:12 AM.

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