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    Hi everyone

    C & C welcome.

    Here’s my take of sunbirds.

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    1/60s f3.6 ISO80 FL 88.8mm Onborad flash, Handheld.





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    1/60s f3.6 ISO80 FL 44.9mm Onborad flash, Handheld.



    Thanks for viewing
    Last edited by Stevewhy; 15th December 2006 at 06:27 PM.

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    wow you are in luck... so far i don have much luck with those crimson sunbird.

    anyway i think the 2nd 1 is too saturated and oversharpened.

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    Only one word "WOW". I wont be able to get this image.

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    wow !!! the redness is incredible!! good shot!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExplorerZ View Post
    wow you are in luck... so far i don have much luck with those crimson sunbird.

    anyway i think the 2nd 1 is too saturated and oversharpened.
    Thanks Explorerz .Taken at SBG.
    I look at my uncrop pictures again the colour is the same, I only adjust the brightness up a little, sharpening a little and removed the noise, all of my pictures I seldom adjust colour or contrast, donít have PS, at different angle and lighting conditions the colour will turn out differently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by longkangman View Post
    Only one word "WOW". I wont be able to get this image.
    Thanks Longkangman

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    Quote Originally Posted by deckard View Post
    wow !!! the redness is incredible!! good shot!!
    Thanks Deckard

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    nice pose on the 2nd shot! But do turn down the in-camera sharpening and saturation. The colors look somwhat unnatural. Camera sensors tend to overexpose the red channel more resulting in the more "unnatural" tint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scenar View Post
    nice pose on the 2nd shot! But do turn down the in-camera sharpening and saturation. The colors look somwhat unnatural. Camera sensors tend to overexpose the red channel more resulting in the more "unnatural" tint.
    Thanks Scenar.
    What do you think #1 sharpening and saturation, if it’s Ok, than what should I do. Please advice, both shots are the same setting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevewhy View Post
    Thanks Scenar.
    What do you think #1 sharpening and saturation, if it’s Ok, than what should I do. Please advice, both shots are the same setting.
    the 2nd shot got a nice background tone, while the first one got a good birdy tone.
    saturation and sharpness is pretty alright for #1, but will be even better if the halo on the wings ain't that obvious(not a big problem to me since it is not very obvious.)
    Last edited by ExplorerZ; 14th December 2006 at 09:32 PM.

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    The first one gets my vote for the colour and the bokeh, although I find the plant sticking out from the chest and tail of the sunbird somewhat distracting. A bit more space on the top may be better .. I think .. since the bird is looking up. Like the earlier comments, I find the colour of the second picture needs to be less saturated. Still, I like the bird's pose that you manage to catch. These are two good pictures, I don't even know if I can do something like this myself

    Thumbs up for you Keep shooting

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExplorerZ View Post
    the 2nd shot got a nice background tone, while the first one got a good birdy tone.
    saturation and sharpness is pretty alright for #1, but will be even better if the halo on the wings ain't that obvious(not a big problem to me since it is not very obvious.)
    Thanks ExplorerZ
    Wait a minute please, now I try to upload crop untouch halo parts on the wings, and please advice on it.

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    Here's the Halo part of the wings, no touch up at all, only crop so that you can see what went wrong.
    Thanks


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    Here's the #2. No touch up done just crop only. Please advice what went wrong when same setting on the camera and two different saturation. Thanks.

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    for the red saturation, i think it is like what scenar have said (i do face this sometimes especially on red colors)
    as for the halo, it might be due to a few thing, could be in-camera sharpening, reflection cause by flash...
    last but not least, it could be natural.
    Last edited by ExplorerZ; 14th December 2006 at 10:12 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExplorerZ View Post
    for the red saturation, i think it is like what scenar have said (i do face this sometimes especially on red colors)
    as for the halo, it might be due to a few thing, could be in-camera sharpening, reflection cause by flash...
    last but not least, it could be natural.
    Thanks ExplorerZ. I'll take note on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toffeespin View Post
    The first one gets my vote for the colour and the bokeh, although I find the plant sticking out from the chest and tail of the sunbird somewhat distracting. A bit more space on the top may be better .. I think .. since the bird is looking up. Like the earlier comments, I find the colour of the second picture needs to be less saturated. Still, I like the bird's pose that you manage to catch. These are two good pictures, I don't even know if I can do something like this myself

    Thumbs up for you Keep shooting
    Thanks toffeespin.
    Hehehe first time shooting birds, Ya agree 100% with you about plant sticking out from the chest and tail of the sunbird somewhat distracting, that's the only take and angle I have with five shots each, that's why I put up for comment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scenar View Post
    nice pose on the 2nd shot! But do turn down the in-camera sharpening and saturation. The colors look somwhat unnatural. Camera sensors tend to overexpose the red channel more resulting in the more "unnatural" tint.
    Hi scenar. I've look through your crimson sunbird and the red colour is the almost the same as my #2 shots. Please advice.

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    hi
    some birds reflect flash light and their colour turn out different compare to nature light. Maybe this is what happens here?
    But these are still great shots!
    Last edited by starrynight; 15th December 2006 at 07:57 AM.

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    hi! ya, my red got killed off too. that's how I also realised the camera seems to blow the red channel. Esp obvious when viewing the RGB histogram, I found that turning down in-camera saturation as well was underexposing abt -2/3 stop (YMMV) seem to restore some detail, pulling it up using curves in photoshop then helped me get the correct exposure.

    I didn't upload those though as I didn't like the bird's pose. terrible reds!

    Hope this helps!

    Quote Originally Posted by Stevewhy View Post
    Hi scenar. I've look through your crimson sunbird and the red colour is the almost the same as my #2 shots. Please advice.

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