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Old 13th December 2006   #1
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I have D80 kit.

If I am going to buy another lens for portrait, which one is better.
Nikon 50mm/1.8f or Tamron 17-50mm/2.8f?

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Old 13th December 2006   #2
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actually, since u can afford a tamron 17-50 f2.8, if i m in ur shoes, i would not think anymore and go grab the nikkor 50mm f1.4 or the nikkor 85mmf1.8 if u like to take half body portraits

i m sure u wont have regrets after that

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Old 13th December 2006   #3
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actually, since u can afford a tamron 17-50 f2.8, if i m in ur shoes, i would not think anymore and go grab the nikkor 50mm f1.4 or the nikkor 85mmf1.8 if u like to take half body portraits

i m sure u wont have regrets after that
How much is nikkor 50mm f1.4 ? 50mmf1.8 has lower price.
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Old 13th December 2006   #4
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its roughly about $450 and ya.. the 50mm f1.8 is around $180
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Old 13th December 2006   #5
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I have D80 kit.

If I am going to buy another lens for portrait, which one is better.
Nikon 50mm/1.8f or Tamron 17-50mm/2.8f?

cheers
between the above two, which more better in price/performance ratio.
better bokeh.
i read some articles. nikon is very choosy for 3rd party lens.
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Old 13th December 2006   #6
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i cant really comment on the point that nikon is choosy for 3rd party lens, because there are 3rd party lens that perform admirably and 3rd party offers lenses with range that u cant find from nikon or canon. Eg. the sigma 300-800 f5.6 beast.

However there is thing in me "i won't be satisfied with anything less than a nikkor."
If i buy a 3rd party lens today, i will have the temptation to upgrade to a nikkor the next second. Thus although is more ex to own a nikkor, i just save up and wait a while longer for it. In short, i view nikkor as the best. [guess nikon's advertising and culture affected me]

Between the two 50mm lenses, majority of the ppl will say that the 50mm f1.8 is more value in performance for money, but i had that lens before and i am really disappointed with the performance. Thus i won't recommend this lens to anyone. Of course, it could be just a case of me receiving a lemon well.... maybe or maybe not.

Thus that's why i recommended the 50mm f1.4. If u are looking for bokeh, then the f1.4 is a good choice.
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Originally Posted by kcuf2 View Post
i cant really comment on the point that nikon is choosy for 3rd party lens, because there are 3rd party lens that perform admirably and 3rd party offers lenses with range that u cant find from nikon or canon. Eg. the sigma 300-800 f5.6 beast.

However there is thing in me "i won't be satisfied with anything less than a nikkor."
If i buy a 3rd party lens today, i will have the temptation to upgrade to a nikkor the next second. Thus although is more ex to own a nikkor, i just save up and wait a while longer for it. In short, i view nikkor as the best. [guess nikon's advertising and culture affected me]

Between the two 50mm lenses, majority of the ppl will say that the 50mm f1.8 is more value in performance for money, but i had that lens before and i am really disappointed with the performance. Thus i won't recommend this lens to anyone. Of course, it could be just a case of me receiving a lemon well.... maybe or maybe not.

Thus that's why i recommended the 50mm f1.4. If u are looking for bokeh, then the f1.4 is a good choice.
nice talking to you....
How long have you been in photography? I am a newbie.
Do you have sample photos for f1.8 and f1.4?
I lean on f1.8 because of price.
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Old 13th December 2006   #8
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a lot of people go for the 50mm f1.8 and they are happy with the results...
for about $300 more to get that half stop, i won't really do it...
but some people might....

if you surf around, or borrow one to play with (i am sure a lot of people have this lens in their bag) you will know that the price performance ratio for the 50mm f1.8 is very very good.

as for the 50mm f1.4, hmm..... you decide for yourself....

but if you have the $ and want only the best, then you should consider
50mm f1.4 or the
85mm f1.4
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try the following lens for portraiture you will love it.
85mm PC f2.8
105mm f2.5
200mm f2

YMMV
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I got 50mm/f1.8 - exciting to play around for getting bokeh.
Crisp pictures than my kit lens.
But a bit slow compared to my kit lens.
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Is there any lens rental shop?
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Is there any lens rental shop?
you may wan to check out some services offer by fellow cser at the Services Offered / Wanted section at the bottom of the main forum page.

or over here.
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you may wan to check out some services offer by fellow cser at the Services Offered / Wanted section at the bottom of the main forum page.

or over here.
Thank you.
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what lens you wanna rent?
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Old 27th December 2006   #15
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Originally Posted by longkangman View Post
try the following lens for portraiture you will love it.
85mm PC f2.8
105mm f2.5
200mm f2

YMMV
85mm PC f/2.8 for portraiture? Why a tilt/shift lens for portraiture?

More dedicated portrait lens are

AF 85mm f/1.8D
AF 85mm f/1.4D IF
AF DC 105mm f/2D
AF DC 135mm f/2D

These lens may work for DX format cameras
AF50mm f/1.8D (bokeh not fantastic but cheap)
AF 50mm f/1.4D

The Tamron 17-50mm is not so ideal as a protrait lens.

BC

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Originally Posted by Scaglietti View Post
85mm PC f/2.8 for portraiture? Why a tilt/shift lens for portraiture?

More dedicated portrait lens are

AF 85mm f/1.8D
AF 85mm f/1.4D IF
AF DC 105mm f/2D
AF DC 135mm f/2D

These lens may work for DX format cameras
AF50mm f/1.8D (bokeh not fantastic but cheap)
AF 50mm f/1.4D

The Tamron 17-50mm is not so ideal as a protrait lens.

BC
there's a MF 52mm f/1.2 too, cause you might want to add in
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Old 27th December 2006   #17
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Originally Posted by rodel View Post
I have D80 kit.

If I am going to buy another lens for portrait, which one is better.
Nikon 50mm/1.8f or Tamron 17-50mm/2.8f?

cheers
I have 50mm f1.8D and f1.4D want to let go, if your are interested can email me.
Both are my pet lens. thanks
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Old 27th December 2006   #18
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i actually always wonder....

why ppl use 85 and above for portrait shoot
yeah yeah nice bokeh..
but practically... it is actually not as good
cuz most of the time... due to space limitation...

even 50mm is a pain in the ass...

so i will vote for 50mm or lesser for more flexibility...
actually i played with the infamous Tamron 17-50mm f/2.8..
flexibility, enough lights, bokeh quite ok... and reasonable priced...

but i am saving for nikon 17-55mm f/2.8..
if the BBB virus took over.. i might get the Tamron over the nikon.. cuz 3 times the price and the weight is a very turn off :P
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i actually always wonder....

why ppl use 85 and above for portrait shoot
yeah yeah nice bokeh..
but practically... it is actually not as good
cuz most of the time... due to space limitation...

even 50mm is a pain in the ass...

so i will vote for 50mm or lesser for more flexibility...
actually i played with the infamous Tamron 17-50mm f/2.8..
flexibility, enough lights, bokeh quite ok... and reasonable priced...

but i am saving for nikon 17-55mm f/2.8..
if the BBB virus took over.. i might get the Tamron over the nikon.. cuz 3 times the price and the weight is a very turn off :P
Photographers use telephotos for a good reason. And the reason is NOT bokeh. Telephoto lens makes the human figure looks proportional. Wide angles have problem with perspective distortion. Telephotos also have the advantage of isolating the subject from the background due to the angle-of-view.

For DX size sensors, if one is seriously into portraits, go for lenses with 50mm and above.

BC

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Old 27th December 2006   #20
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so i will vote for 50mm or lesser for more flexibility...
actually i played with the infamous Tamron 17-50mm f/2.8..
flexibility, enough lights, bokeh quite ok... and reasonable priced...

Hi there,

How much is the Tamron 17-50mm and why 'infamous' ?

Thanks
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