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    is there a minium age of how old the model have to be, bef she can take up paid jobs or TFCD so on???

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    U mean how old rite...

    Think minimum without parental consent is 18. With parental consent and guardian, anything below 18.
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    16 cannot meh? the models at BBT looks underaged anyway.

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    wat does TFCD stand for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gangeslim View Post
    wat does TFCD stand for?
    Time for CD. Means no charges when shooting models but a burn copy of CD of the pictures taken by you to her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by versatile View Post
    Time for CD. Means no charges when shooting models but a burn copy of CD of the pictures taken by you to her.
    i see. thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by versatile View Post
    16 cannot meh? the models at BBT looks underaged anyway.
    she may look young, but i saw few pix of her in the special feature area(onli 18 and above can enter) in CS, hence, i believe that she is older then me only thing look young nia

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    Quote Originally Posted by compro_1975 View Post
    is there a minium age of how old the model have to be, bef she can take up paid jobs or TFCD so on???
    The legal way is to have photo releases signed by the model.

    If the model is below 18, then they are considered minors, in which they cannot make legal binding contracts. In the case of models below 18, parental consent is a definite must.

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    how about those baby model? they are all under 18!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul_Yeo View Post
    how about those baby model? they are all under 18!!!!
    u mean their parents leave them conveniently employed without supervision?
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    As best as I know by reading the Statutes of Singapore, Singapore doesn't have a definite age to define adulthood. It appears to be quite a grey area.

    In other liberal countries or societies where pornography is produced or permitted, laws must be set to define an age for adulthood. In such countries, and most of them are western countries, the age of adulthood is 18.

    Obviously, this law doesn't exist in Singapore but there are some laws in Singapore which state certain ages for consent and activity which are quite contradictory if you think about it.

    Anyway, bear in mind that Singapore's film/movie RA(21) rating could suggest that Singaporeans are considered adults at 21 years of age.

    In Singapore, some magazines, modeling agencies, and photographers follow western countries by accepting 18 as adult age. This, I suspect is a grey area, a loophole, in the law because as best as I have read, no law in Singapore says 18 is surely adult age.

    Until the day something bad happens in the photo industry with models who are 18 or too young, I doubt any definite law will be passed in parliament.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jemapela View Post
    As best as I know by reading the Statutes of Singapore, Singapore doesn't have a definite age to define adulthood. It appears to be quite a grey area.

    In other liberal countries or societies where pornography is produced or permitted, laws must be set to define an age for adulthood. In such countries, and most of them are western countries, the age of adulthood is 18.

    Obviously, this law doesn't exist in Singapore but there are some laws in Singapore which state certain ages for consent and activity which are quite contradictory if you think about it.

    Anyway, bear in mind that Singapore's film/movie RA(21) rating could suggest that Singaporeans are considered adults at 21 years of age.

    In Singapore, some magazines, modeling agencies, and photographers follow western countries by accepting 18 as adult age. This, I suspect is a grey area, a loophole, in the law because as best as I have read, no law in Singapore says 18 is surely adult age.

    Until the day something bad happens in the photo industry with models who are 18 or too young, I doubt any definite law will be passed in parliament.
    i agree with you to a large extend. in sg, kids can have sex at 16 years old but can only watch RA movies at 21. this is rather contradicting.

    i am askin becos my friend is planning to try out being a model in her holidays and she wants to know of any possible danger she is exposed to and where she can get help too. i encourage her to her dream but the loophole is something she should be aware of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jemapela View Post
    As best as I know by reading the Statutes of Singapore, Singapore doesn't have a definite age to define adulthood. It appears to be quite a grey area.

    In other liberal countries or societies where pornography is produced or permitted, laws must be set to define an age for adulthood. In such countries, and most of them are western countries, the age of adulthood is 18.

    Obviously, this law doesn't exist in Singapore but there are some laws in Singapore which state certain ages for consent and activity which are quite contradictory if you think about it.

    Anyway, bear in mind that Singapore's film/movie RA(21) rating could suggest that Singaporeans are considered adults at 21 years of age.

    In Singapore, some magazines, modeling agencies, and photographers follow western countries by accepting 18 as adult age. This, I suspect is a grey area, a loophole, in the law because as best as I have read, no law in Singapore says 18 is surely adult age.

    Until the day something bad happens in the photo industry with models who are 18 or too young, I doubt any definite law will be passed in parliament.

    think should be treated as any other employment.
    did a search and these seems relevant.
    ==

    PART VIII
    EMPLOYMENT OF CHILDREN AND YOUNG PERSONS

    Interpretation of this Part
    67A. In this Part

    "child" means a person who has not completed his 15th year of age;

    "young person" means a person who has completed his 15th year of age but who has not completed his 16th year of age.

    Restriction on employment of children.
    68. (1) No person shall employ a child in an industrial or a non-industrial undertaking except as provided for in subsections (2) and (3).
    36/95.

    (2) A child may be employed in an industrial undertaking in which only members of the same family are employed.
    36/95.

    (3) A child who is 13 years of age or above may be employed in light work suited to his capacity in a non-industrial undertaking.
    36/95.

    (4) For the purposes of subsection (3), the certificate of a medical officer shall be conclusive upon the question of whether any work is suited to the capacity of any particular child.
    36/95.

    Restriction on employment of young persons.
    69. No young person shall be employed in any industrial undertaking which the Minister by notification in the Gazette declares to be an industrial undertaking in which no young person shall be employed.

    36/95.

    Conditions of employment.
    70. The Minister may by regulations made under this Act prescribe the conditions upon which a child or young person may be employed in any industrial or non-industrial undertaking.

    Minimum rates of salary may be prescribed.
    71. (1) If it is shown to the satisfaction of the Minister, upon the application of the Commissioner and after such inquiry as the Minister may think fit to direct, that the salaries of children or young persons, or both, employed in any industry or for any particular work or in any area are insufficient, having regard to the nature of the work and the conditions of employment, it shall be lawful for the Minister to prescribe, by order to be published in the Gazette, minimum rates of salary to be paid to children or young persons or both in that industry, type of employment or area.

    (2) Any person contravening any such order shall be guilty of an offence and shall be liable on conviction to a fine not exceeding $1,000 or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 6 months or to both, and for a second or subsequent offence to a fine not exceeding $2,000 or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 2 years or to both.

    Approved employment.
    72. (1) Sections 68 and 69 shall not apply

    (a) to the employment of children and young persons

    (i) in work approved and supervised by the Ministry of Education or the Institute of Technical Education, Singapore; and

    (ii) carried on in any technical, vocational or industrial training school or institute; and

    (b) to the employment of young persons under any apprenticeship programme approved and supervised by the Institute of Technical Education, Singapore.

    36/95.

    (2) For the purposes of this section, the Institute of Technical Education, Singapore means the Institute of Technical Education, Singapore established under the Institute of Technical Education Act.
    36/95.
    Cap. 141A.

    Regulations regulating employment.
    73. The Minister may make regulations for regulating the employment of children in any occupation and no child or young person shall be employed as a workman under any circumstances or under any conditions which may be prohibited by the Minister from time to time by regulations made under this Act.

    Offence.
    74. Any person who employs a child or young person in contravention of the provisions of this Part or any of the regulations made thereunder and any parent or guardian who knowingly or negligently suffers or permits such employment shall be guilty of an offence and shall be liable on conviction to a fine not exceeding $2,000 or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 2 years or to both except in the case where a child or young person suffers serious injury or death resulting from any breach of the provisions of this Part or any regulations made thereunder the offender shall be punished with a fine of $2,000 and shall also be liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 2 years.
    ==

    </P>"888373366-000179"></A>Restrictions on children and young persons taking part in public entertainment</B>
    11.</B> (1) No child or young person shall take part in any public entertainment

    </P>(a) which is of an immoral nature;</DL>

    </P>(b) which is dangerous to life or prejudicial to the health, physical fitness and kind treatment of the child or young person; or</DL>

    </P>(c) without the consent of his parent or guardian.</DL>

    </P> (2) Any person who causes or procures such a child or young person, or being his parent or guardian allows him, to take part in any public entertainment in contravention of subsection (1) shall be guilty of an offence and shall be liable on conviction to a fine not exceeding $1,000 or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 12 months or to both.

    </P> (3) If the person convicted under subsection (2) is the holder of a licence under the Public Entertainments and Meetings Act (Cap. 257), the court may also order the cancellation of the licence or its suspension for such period as the court may think fit.

    </P> (4) In this section

    </P>"entertainment" includes an exhibition or performance;</DL>

    </P>"public entertainment" means an entertainment to which the public or any section of the public is admitted or in connection with which a charge, whether for admission or otherwise, is made.</DL> </DL>

    </BODY></HTML>

    </P>"888373177-001433"></A>Restriction on employment of young persons.</B>
    69.</B> No young person shall be employed in any industrial undertaking which the Minister by notification in the Gazette</I> declares to be an industrial undertaking in which no young person shall be employed.

    </P>

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    Quote Originally Posted by richardg View Post
    think should be treated as any other employment.
    did a search and these seems relevant.
    ==

    PART VIII
    EMPLOYMENT OF CHILDREN AND YOUNG PERSONS

    Interpretation of this Part
    67A. In this Part

    "child" means a person who has not completed his 15th year of age;

    "young person" means a person who has completed his 15th year of age but who has not completed his 16th year of age.

    Restriction on employment of children.
    68. (1) No person shall employ a child in an industrial or a non-industrial undertaking except as provided for in subsections (2) and (3).
    36/95.

    (2) A child may be employed in an industrial undertaking in which only members of the same family are employed.
    36/95.

    (3) A child who is 13 years of age or above may be employed in light work suited to his capacity in a non-industrial undertaking.
    36/95.

    (4) For the purposes of subsection (3), the certificate of a medical officer shall be conclusive upon the question of whether any work is suited to the capacity of any particular child.
    36/95.

    Restriction on employment of young persons.
    69. No young person shall be employed in any industrial undertaking which the Minister by notification in the Gazette declares to be an industrial undertaking in which no young person shall be employed.

    36/95.

    Conditions of employment.
    70. The Minister may by regulations made under this Act prescribe the conditions upon which a child or young person may be employed in any industrial or non-industrial undertaking.

    Minimum rates of salary may be prescribed.
    71. (1) If it is shown to the satisfaction of the Minister, upon the application of the Commissioner and after such inquiry as the Minister may think fit to direct, that the salaries of children or young persons, or both, employed in any industry or for any particular work or in any area are insufficient, having regard to the nature of the work and the conditions of employment, it shall be lawful for the Minister to prescribe, by order to be published in the Gazette, minimum rates of salary to be paid to children or young persons or both in that industry, type of employment or area.

    (2) Any person contravening any such order shall be guilty of an offence and shall be liable on conviction to a fine not exceeding $1,000 or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 6 months or to both, and for a second or subsequent offence to a fine not exceeding $2,000 or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 2 years or to both.

    Approved employment.
    72. (1) Sections 68 and 69 shall not apply

    (a) to the employment of children and young persons

    (i) in work approved and supervised by the Ministry of Education or the Institute of Technical Education, Singapore; and

    (ii) carried on in any technical, vocational or industrial training school or institute; and

    (b) to the employment of young persons under any apprenticeship programme approved and supervised by the Institute of Technical Education, Singapore.

    36/95.

    (2) For the purposes of this section, the Institute of Technical Education, Singapore means the Institute of Technical Education, Singapore established under the Institute of Technical Education Act.
    36/95.
    Cap. 141A.

    Regulations regulating employment.
    73. The Minister may make regulations for regulating the employment of children in any occupation and no child or young person shall be employed as a workman under any circumstances or under any conditions which may be prohibited by the Minister from time to time by regulations made under this Act.

    Offence.
    74. Any person who employs a child or young person in contravention of the provisions of this Part or any of the regulations made thereunder and any parent or guardian who knowingly or negligently suffers or permits such employment shall be guilty of an offence and shall be liable on conviction to a fine not exceeding $2,000 or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 2 years or to both except in the case where a child or young person suffers serious injury or death resulting from any breach of the provisions of this Part or any regulations made thereunder the offender shall be punished with a fine of $2,000 and shall also be liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 2 years.
    ==

    </P>"888373366-000179"></A>Restrictions on children and young persons taking part in public entertainment</B>
    11.</B> (1) No child or young person shall take part in any public entertainment

    </P>(a) which is of an immoral nature;</DL>

    </P>(b) which is dangerous to life or prejudicial to the health, physical fitness and kind treatment of the child or young person; or</DL>

    </P>(c) without the consent of his parent or guardian.</DL>

    </P> (2) Any person who causes or procures such a child or young person, or being his parent or guardian allows him, to take part in any public entertainment in contravention of subsection (1) shall be guilty of an offence and shall be liable on conviction to a fine not exceeding $1,000 or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 12 months or to both.

    </P> (3) If the person convicted under subsection (2) is the holder of a licence under the Public Entertainments and Meetings Act (Cap. 257), the court may also order the cancellation of the licence or its suspension for such period as the court may think fit.

    </P> (4) In this section

    </P>"entertainment" includes an exhibition or performance;</DL>

    </P>"public entertainment" means an entertainment to which the public or any section of the public is admitted or in connection with which a charge, whether for admission or otherwise, is made.</DL> </DL>

    </BODY></HTML>

    </P>"888373177-001433"></A>Restriction on employment of young persons.</B>
    69.</B> No young person shall be employed in any industrial undertaking which the Minister by notification in the Gazette</I> declares to be an industrial undertaking in which no young person shall be employed.

    </P>
    wow!!! you lawyer??? tks for de info

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    Quote Originally Posted by compro_1975 View Post
    wow!!! you lawyer??? tks for de info
    no lah... layman nia
    use at your own risk hor..

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    Hi compro_1975,

    Good on you for seeing the contradiction. In a western countries such as Australia, it's made very clear that 18 is the age of adulthood, and this is the age applied to modeling (clothed or nude).

    In Singapore, you could suspect that people are conveniently and quite blindly following laws set by other countries. Maybe, they have to because the ministers haven't sat down to decide it and pass it in the bill.

    If anything, I would say, like what many guys would say, do anything but just don't get caught. Still, one day, somebody will surely screw-up and get caught, and new laws will be made.


    Hi richardg,

    Your post is a classic example of wholesale-copy-and-paste most Singaporeans do. I refrain from doing that because it can (1) infringe copyright, or (2) suggest poor interpretational ability. Just state the link would do, and let readers interpret it themselves, or seek legal advice. No offence intended.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jemapela View Post
    Hi compro_1975,

    Good on you for seeing the contradiction. In a western countries such as Australia, it's made very clear that 18 is the age of adulthood, and this is the age applied to modeling (clothed or nude).

    In Singapore, you could suspect that people are conveniently and quite blindly following laws set by other countries. Maybe, they have to because the ministers haven't sat down to decide it and pass it in the bill.

    If anything, I would say, like what many guys would say, do anything but just don't get caught. Still, one day, somebody will surely screw-up and get caught, and new laws will be made.


    Hi richardg,

    Your post is a classic example of wholesale-copy-and-paste most Singaporeans do. I refrain from doing that because it can (1) infringe copyright, or (2) suggest poor interpretational ability. Just state the link would do, and let readers interpret it themselves, or seek legal advice. No offence intended.
    Agreed .... and just recently swimming pool water return, kill one person and gov here started to look into that.

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    forgot to quote the source.
    here it is.

    http://statutes.agc.gov.sg/

    cheers

    Quote Originally Posted by Jemapela View Post
    Hi compro_1975,

    Good on you for seeing the contradiction. In a western countries such as Australia, it's made very clear that 18 is the age of adulthood, and this is the age applied to modeling (clothed or nude).

    In Singapore, you could suspect that people are conveniently and quite blindly following laws set by other countries. Maybe, they have to because the ministers haven't sat down to decide it and pass it in the bill.

    If anything, I would say, like what many guys would say, do anything but just don't get caught. Still, one day, somebody will surely screw-up and get caught, and new laws will be made.


    Hi richardg,

    Your post is a classic example of wholesale-copy-and-paste most Singaporeans do. I refrain from doing that because it can (1) infringe copyright, or (2) suggest poor interpretational ability. Just state the link would do, and let readers interpret it themselves, or seek legal advice. No offence intended.

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    16 can have sex.

    18 can buy cigarettes
    18 can drive car

    21 can watch R(21) Movies.

    On at 21 have you reached the age of majority meaning that is when you are bounded by legal contracts.

    So, I would say safely, 21 is the age where you are legally an adult since you can be hold true to your signed contracts.

    Just curious, whats the minimum age for marriage? (i wanna get hdb flat soon! haha, just joking)

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    Quote Originally Posted by germ_boi View Post
    16 can have sex.

    18 can buy cigarettes
    18 can drive car

    21 can watch R(21) Movies.

    On at 21 have you reached the age of majority meaning that is when you are bounded by legal contracts.

    So, I would say safely, 21 is the age where you are legally an adult since you can be hold true to your signed contracts.

    Just curious, whats the minimum age for marriage? (i wanna get hdb flat soon! haha, just joking)
    16 can have sex, 21 can watch 'sex'... so after 21, ppl perform more artistically?

    hdb? u got money, then buy private lor... no age limit...
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