To Admin/ Mods.
I have written this carefully. I feel that there are useful things. If I am deregistered because of this, so be it!
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On 5.12.06, DP commented in post #189 in "Who is qualified enough?'
I promised DP I will be more creative. My "creative" approach is to use facts to deal with imbeciles like DP.Originally Posted by deadpoet
31.8.06, DP wrote in "Charby's newbie shoot at Labrador Park"
30.8.06, in "Clones for flaming", he wroteOriginally Posted by deadpoet
Now, I will give him cause to despise me even more because I am really not going to be nice!Originally Posted by deadpoet
Issues on my Professional Standing
In the above quotes, DP had made reference to my professional standing as a doctor. I am totally disappointed at the admin at not taking a stand on this, because his statements go beyond what this forum is all about - on photography.
His insinuated two things. (1) That my way of learning is wrong, and (2), that with this way of learning which I advocated, I should not have been a doctor at all. For now, I will leave things as they are.
Traditionally, a student spends a couple of years in the "basics" (anatomy, physiology and biochemistry) before going to the clinical years. This is a proven approach to medical training because it had succeeded in producing many fine doctors.
However, since the 1960s, there have been another approach - based on problem-solving. Students were put into clinical situations, and learnt whatever basics they need to solve the problem. A good example of this approach is McMaster University.
While I was trained in the traditional way, I am not ignorant nor dismissive of other methods of education, which are just as valid, because this other way of education also produced fine doctors!
Issues on learning photography
(A) "Basic Approaches"
I last discussed this in "Yuki", post #112
Note that I agreed with much of what DP said.. My disagreement with DP is his delivery, dogmatism, and dismissive attitude to other approaches.Originally Posted by student
I further wrote
I had mentioned it before that I did not have teachers like DP. My teachers did not want to see me make "correct" images. They wanted my photos try to say what I felt. Along the way, I learnt the technical necessities. Were my teachers/mentors misguided? I will return to this.Originally Posted by student
(B) On Attitudes to learning
DP declared that I am damn insecure and have no opinions of my own because I like to quote other photographers.
Am I insecure? Or is DP so arrogant that only his opinions matter?
Do we live in a vacuum? Did DP become a photographer from nowhere? Where did "rules" come from? DP made them? When we quote "rules" we are acknowledging those who made them. I am a product of various influences from the past and the present. All these resulted in a certain way of thinking, feeling and hopefully, of expressing. I do have my own opinions. But my opinions did not come from a vacuum, but from the rich traditions before me.
I will continue to quote others because I acknowledge those before me, wiser, "greater" and therefore worthy of my respect. Insecurity? Or humility?
But of course, DP does not find the need to quote from others, because he "has his own opinions". Wisdom? Or arrogance and stupidity?
(C) On Deadpoet and why I regard him as Sh1t.
In "Clones for flaming"
Originally Posted by deadpoetI have absolutely no problem if DP (or any other person) really felt that my photography have nothing to offer.Originally Posted by deadpoet
DEADPOET, YOU ARE A BLOODY LIAR AND HYPOCRITE!
Why did I say this? This is where I will let DP have the pleasure to regard me as the lowest of the lowest scums. I have enough of his lies and hypocrisy!
9.9.05 DP wrote to me
I repliedOriginally Posted by deadpoet
DP replied 10.9.06Originally Posted by student
10.9.06 separatelyOriginally Posted by deadpoet
What are the facts and insight we can get from these exchanges?Originally Posted by deadpoet
I had shown only a few images, and they were enough to make DP feel unhappy with his images, and thank me for giving his thought processes a kick in the butt!
Yet he declared "to me you have nothing to offer!".
Now what do you call this? Liar and hypocrite!
Is his hypocrisy only confined to his exchanges with me??
Originally Posted by deadpoetWhat did he write before?Originally Posted by deadpoet
27.3.06Originally Posted by deadpoet
28.3.05Originally Posted by deadpoet
16.4.05Originally Posted by deadpoet
Any doubts about the character of this DP?Originally Posted by deadpoet
By his own admission,
(a) He lacked a style of his own
(b) He ran out of imagination
(c) The "nothing that I can offer him" offered him a kick to reflect on his photography!
OK enough of this nonsense called Deadpoet!
(D) Some final thoughts
Nothing wrong to be grounded in the basics. But remember there are other approaches.
Although DP and others said that one needs to know the rules before one breaks it, the reality is that after a while, one will not want to break them. This is seen so often with the kind of images that one sees in CS, and the kinds of comments given to images.
An obsession with "technical perfection" (that will have the approval of the critics) and "political correctness" (to please the esthetics of the critics) is, in my opinion, anathema to developing a style of one's own.
How to have imagination?
By sticking to "rules"? Which is what DP propose so adamantly! What happens? DP has great imagination? His images have imaginations?
How to have a "style" that one can called one's own?
(a) I think chasing for a style for its own sake will at best result in a caricature.
(b) A meaningful "style" can only result if one have a point of view, one's own way of seeing. One's own way of expressing.
Were my teachers/mentors misguided? I am not a even a competent student. But already my miserable attempts had given a kick to the oversized butts of the "great" DP!
Not bad at all! Not bad at all!
Friends, this might be the last time I write to you.
If so, goodbye!