Been in CS for a long time with many posts
People who are good photographers themselves
Does not need to be a good photographer, but has a keen eye for detail
Does not need to be a good photographer, but has a keen eye for detail and friendly commenting
Does not need to be a good photographer, but has a keen eye for detail and very direct in commenting
This doesn't mean that the comment isn't helpful. All comments, even a short two or three word comment, can benefit someone (photograph or web-browser) somehow. Just because it doesn't comply the purpose that "A CRITIQUE IS NOT TO IMPOSE ONE'S (THE CRITIC'S OWN) ESTHETICS, BUT TO HELP THE OTHER ALONG HIS CHOSEN PATH", it isn't necessarily thrown out of the window.
for me, the responsibility lies on the critique seeker, not the critic. and so it's very very strange why people choose to quarrel over each other's comment.
From what i could see (not that i have a sharp eye, i'm actually 1/2 blind ), this guy needs some upbringing, not in his reasoning, but his tone of words.
Yeap, you could be a darn good critic, giving very extreme but valid reasons, but hey, just run a search with this guy and you know what which way i'm heading.
So what's with the messy hair, brown khaki shorts or harsh lightings? You could nitpick all the way, but those comments on "I'm debating if those shots sucks!" or "I'm wondering if it's an eye sore to see"?! Heck, if you have better pictures, please, no one is asking you to hit that submit reply button.
Honestly, every forum has their black sheeps, but really, this guy is way way way off.
While i appreciates his efforts to bring out the certain imperfections in pictures, his style of critic simply leaves a horrible aftertaste, which unfortunately, would linger and cause serious aftermath to the community as a whole.
I'm sorry if i'm direct, but really, it's an observation i've noticed. No hard feelings, and no, i'm not holding any personal agenda whilst typing this piece.
To end it off simply: the world is round. Be nice to people, they'll be nicer in return. =)
To DCA's credit, he did ask some questions. But the manner he did is is sure to elicit a negative response. It does not tale a genius to understand that.
And, asking questions is not "An excellent critique". At best, it is the starting point to a potential critique.
Comments are valuable. When one say of my image "I like it/i do not like it", it is valuable to me, because that comment showed the emotove response my image had provoked in that person.
However that comment have no other value to help me improve on that image. So it is not a critique, much as I appreciate the comments and effort to type that.
the critique seeker is forced to put oneself in the place of the critic when one answers the critic's questions. the questions are the critique, and to me that formed an excellent critique.
I think DP has an eye for details and he definitely knows what he is saying... So I would take his words more seriuosly although he may slam quite hard... Ouch...
I would not take anybody's comments personally even if it seem harsh... I would rather receive a harsh but true comment which would help me improve. Of course my personal attitude towards recieving critique must be positive... If not whatever critique given is useless...
I think anyone can give an opinion. But to give a critique about a photo maybe a tad bit harder. Critique in my opinion comes in many different forms and areas, from technical details, to artistic point of views. The interpretation of a work is very much based on the judgement on the individual's ideas, mood, past experiences....etc. Thus i think a proper critique maybe one that follows a certain guideline without the influence of a thought or emotions?
I was taught to take in as much opinions, thrashing, comments critiques as possible on the images i shoot. So that one day when i look back at my then "shots worth keeping" and throw them away because i know i can do better. I'd know i've probably improved.
If we try and give other "critiques" or feedback and they are "in denial" and are not receptive. then maybe we should judt leave them alone and let them fend and improve for themselves the longer and harder way?
just my 2 cents worth.
eh...went out after starting the poll, didnt notice it'd be so "hot"
though i have to agree with student that we cannot impose our views of art or aesthetics on others, i believe that in order for photography to "work", there has to be a certain amount of mass appeal in it.. it doesnt exactly mean if a photo should be technically correct or wrong, but the target audience should like it at the very least...
thus, as critics, perhaps one thing we could do is to give it from a "mass public perspective" in order to help. another thing would be in our "politeness" strategies when doing so..
juz my opinion
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