Videocam from B&H Photo?

cyaw · 30th November 2006

Any thots on the online buying of videocams from USA? MUCH cheaper - even with the steep freight charges thrown in

NTSC should not be a problem as most editing software accept NTSC. So do DVD players & TVs

Wonder whether their warranty will be honoured here in SG?

devilboy · 30th November 2006

Originally Posted by cyaw

Any thots on the online buying of videocams from USA? MUCH cheaper - even with the steep freight charges thrown in

NTSC should not be a problem as most editing software accept NTSC. So do DVD players & TVs

Wonder whether their warranty will be honoured here in SG?

B&H also can shipped PAL versioin for you...

porcupine · 30th November 2006

I doubt it's much cheaper (as far as the AG-DVX is concerned). I checked for pricing on the DVX100b (PAL) model and the cheapest I could get was approx USD$3100+ (excluding the shipping charges which can amount close to another USD$100+. Convert everything it's close to SG$5k. The DVX102B in SG should be around the region of SG$3600-$3700+

I've not researched the other cameras though.

cyaw · 30th November 2006

Paiseh... looking at a consumer cam. Almost 20% off street price here. At least for the model I was looking at. A Sony HDD model - dunno whether the PAL version available

devilboy · 30th November 2006

Originally Posted by porcupine

I doubt it's much cheaper (as far as the AG-DVX is concerned). I checked for pricing on the DVX100b (PAL) model and the cheapest I could get was approx USD$3100+ (excluding the shipping charges which can amount close to another USD$100+. Convert everything it's close to SG$5k. The DVX102B in SG should be around the region of SG$3600-$3700+

I've not researched the other cameras though.

Get grey sets.... can be much cheaper...

JRC · 30th November 2006

Originally Posted by devilboy

Get grey sets.... can be much cheaper...

If i'm not wrong, expandore's selling grey set.
When I was there, they say their cam is for export and no local warranty.
And they quoted quite high price also

......maybe they only do business with people they know.

Those shops in SLS also not really selling semi-pro videocam. Those that do, like videopro, does not look keen to make a sale. Not possible to touch and test out the camera before buy. That's why I bought from sensys where I can play a bit with the cam before purchase. Service is better.

devilboy · 30th November 2006

Originally Posted by JRC

If i'm not wrong, expandore's selling grey set.
When I was there, they say their cam is for export and no local warranty.
And they quoted quite high price also ......maybe they only do business with people they know.

Those shops in SLS also not really selling semi-pro videocam. Those that do, like videopro, does not look keen to make a sale. Not possible to touch and test out the camera before buy. That's why I bought from sensys where I can play a bit with the cam before purchase. Service is better.

Yah.. the SLS people will go like, you confirm you want then I bring down and let you try... My partner and I was getting a A1 system, we go scout around asking for price and we reached this XXX shop, they man dun even know what is the Sony HVR A1P system, then he anyhow qoute, thinking we are not serious, then he say $3000, best price... then talk with confience, you want?? I go and take... you want??? Not knowing that we are ready buyers... we say... ok lor, bring it down... then the joker went off and came back telling us the camera is $3800.00... what a waste of time. typical screw up shop.

Anyway, I suggest potential buyers to try it out at SLT... better pricing actually than SLS.
But..........
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PLEASE DO YOUR HOMEWORK BEFORE PURCHASE!!!

porcupine · 30th November 2006

Originally Posted by JRC

If i'm not wrong, expandore's selling grey set.
When I was there, they say their cam is for export and no local warranty.
And they quoted quite high price also ......maybe they only do business with people they know.

Those shops in SLS also not really selling semi-pro videocam. Those that do, like videopro, does not look keen to make a sale. Not possible to touch and test out the camera before buy. That's why I bought from sensys where I can play a bit with the cam before purchase. Service is better.

I have yet to get any email reply from VideoPro (looks like you are right). They don't seem keen to sell. I've had good communication from Expandore and Sensys. Maybe I might go Sensys. Any voice on the prices ppl are getting for their DVX102BEN here (please PM me. Maybe it's not ethical to put prices here in public).

danel · 1st December 2006

hi yah...
can someone pm me the price for dvx102ben as well? thks ar... cos got problem registering on the webby of sensys... thks...

tommon · 2nd December 2006

Expandore can get local warranty for a price about $400 more for Sony and $250 for Panasonic. But ask them about an international insurance coverage about $200 for 2 years, it's better if you intend to travel overseas with the cam.

cyaw · 11th December 2006

A noob question...but if I use an NTSC cam, will there be problems in editing? Consumer editing software like Pinnacle Studio...?

kwaiclye · 24th January 2007

Originally Posted by tommon

Expandore can get local warranty for a price about $400 more for Sony and $250 for Panasonic. But ask them about an international insurance coverage about $200 for 2 years, it's better if you intend to travel overseas with the cam.

Hi there, any idea where i can cheap sachtler tripod for Mini DV cam? tx.

jaegersing · 25th January 2007

Originally Posted by kwaiclye

Hi there, any idea where i can cheap sachtler tripod for Mini DV cam? tx.

Cheap Sachtler? Not sure if they exist. Here's a new one on ebay, US$750 plus US$89 for shipping to Singapore. Looks like a good deal, but I've never used a ground level spreader before so I'm not too keen on this one.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Sachtler-DV-1-Sy...QQcmdZViewItem

Shawn The Farmer · 25th January 2007

Originally Posted by kwaiclye

Hi there, any idea where i can cheap sachtler tripod for Mini DV cam? tx.

sachtler tripod even for DV is not cheap. my set of head and legs andf spreader etc costed me $3k+

samvision · 28th January 2007

Originally Posted by Shawn The Farmer

sachtler tripod even for DV is not cheap. my set of head and legs andf spreader etc costed me $3k+

any recommendation for places to get the dvx.
plan to get additional set for back up

Shawn The Farmer · 29th January 2007

Originally Posted by samvision

any recommendation for places to get the dvx.
plan to get additional set for back up

alanphoto?

yowch · 2nd February 2007

CYAW, PAL is inherently higher res and better than NTSC, which is why it is 20% more expensive. Living in PAL-world, you should get PAL-cam, and pay PAL-price.

The pros outweight the cons, seriously. Like flickering, banding, pulldown of frames by software, interpolations, blah-blah so much to talk about. Just stick to PAL. If you are in USA, Japan or Taiwan, buy NTSC.

Buying from B&H means you can't try the cam, and if you want to return, you pay the shipping, both ways. I'll say, go to Alan Photo or whichever else, and buy the model you want there. I have gone through this 5 years ago.

cyaw · 2nd February 2007

Hi Yowch

How are things? Still using the F700 as a RAW spare?

You can get PAL hardware from B&H if you want but I concede on the risks of buying stuff from the States and warranty problems. So far it's just a idea I have toyed with given the attractive pricing although some CSers have done it without having their fingers burnt.

On specs PAL beats NTSC but I think most folks would be hard pressed to spot the difference in real life.

Thanks for the PALly advice. After considering all things, particularly the warranty issue, I bought the vidcam from AP a month ago and have been enjoying it ever since.

yowch · 2nd February 2007

On home movies, videos, not much difference between PAL and NTSC, but once it gets to graphics, words, sub-titles; or when it gets to high action/motion, the resolution and frame-rate difference will be seen. so which cam is it?

The F700 is great. Went in to Fuji once for sensor change, and once more for internal battery change. Still going strong and good. And good value, too - there are people out there still looking for this little gem of a camera.

cyaw · 2nd February 2007

Great to hear that the F700 is going strong.

I got the Sony SR100. Dollar for dollar it can't beat mini DVs for quality and Sonys are traditionally dumbed down for consumers but the convenience is astounding and the quality is nothing to sniff at. Great for hobbyists like me but not for tahchiaks. What's your weapon?

30th November 2006	#1
cyaw Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 99	Videocam from B&H Photo? Any thots on the online buying of videocams from USA? MUCH cheaper - even with the steep freight charges thrown in NTSC should not be a problem as most editing software accept NTSC. So do DVD players & TVs Wonder whether their warranty will be honoured here in SG?

30th November 2006	#3
porcupine New Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 30	Re: Videocam from B&H Photo? I doubt it's much cheaper (as far as the AG-DVX is concerned). I checked for pricing on the DVX100b (PAL) model and the cheapest I could get was approx USD$3100+ (excluding the shipping charges which can amount close to another USD$100+. Convert everything it's close to SG$5k. The DVX102B in SG should be around the region of SG$3600-$3700+ I've not researched the other cameras though.

30th November 2006	#4
cyaw Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 99	Re: Videocam from B&H Photo? Paiseh... looking at a consumer cam. Almost 20% off street price here. At least for the model I was looking at. A Sony HDD model - dunno whether the PAL version available

1st December 2006	#9
danel Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 65	Re: Videocam from B&H Photo? hi yah... can someone pm me the price for dvx102ben as well? thks ar... cos got problem registering on the webby of sensys... thks...

2nd December 2006	#10
tommon Deregistered Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Currently, Singapore but hope Posts: 729	Re: Videocam from B&H Photo? Expandore can get local warranty for a price about $400 more for Sony and $250 for Panasonic. But ask them about an international insurance coverage about $200 for 2 years, it's better if you intend to travel overseas with the cam.

11th December 2006	#11
cyaw Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 99	Re: Videocam from B&H Photo? A noob question...but if I use an NTSC cam, will there be problems in editing? Consumer editing software like Pinnacle Studio...?

2nd February 2007	#17
yowch Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Singapore, Redhill Posts: 1,063	Re: Videocam from B&H Photo? CYAW, PAL is inherently higher res and better than NTSC, which is why it is 20% more expensive. Living in PAL-world, you should get PAL-cam, and pay PAL-price. The pros outweight the cons, seriously. Like flickering, banding, pulldown of frames by software, interpolations, blah-blah so much to talk about. Just stick to PAL. If you are in USA, Japan or Taiwan, buy NTSC. Buying from B&H means you can't try the cam, and if you want to return, you pay the shipping, both ways. I'll say, go to Alan Photo or whichever else, and buy the model you want there. I have gone through this 5 years ago.

2nd February 2007	#18
cyaw Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 99	Re: Videocam from B&H Photo? Hi Yowch How are things? Still using the F700 as a RAW spare? You can get PAL hardware from B&H if you want but I concede on the risks of buying stuff from the States and warranty problems. So far it's just a idea I have toyed with given the attractive pricing although some CSers have done it without having their fingers burnt. On specs PAL beats NTSC but I think most folks would be hard pressed to spot the difference in real life. Thanks for the PALly advice. After considering all things, particularly the warranty issue, I bought the vidcam from AP a month ago and have been enjoying it ever since.

2nd February 2007	#19
yowch Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Singapore, Redhill Posts: 1,063	Re: Videocam from B&H Photo? On home movies, videos, not much difference between PAL and NTSC, but once it gets to graphics, words, sub-titles; or when it gets to high action/motion, the resolution and frame-rate difference will be seen. so which cam is it? The F700 is great. Went in to Fuji once for sensor change, and once more for internal battery change. Still going strong and good. And good value, too - there are people out there still looking for this little gem of a camera.

2nd February 2007	#20
cyaw Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 99	Re: Videocam from B&H Photo? Great to hear that the F700 is going strong. I got the Sony SR100. Dollar for dollar it can't beat mini DVs for quality and Sonys are traditionally dumbed down for consumers but the convenience is astounding and the quality is nothing to sniff at. Great for hobbyists like me but not for tahchiaks. What's your weapon?