Quote Originally Posted by tohdj View Post
my ND4 has served me well. Considering that i don't make a living from my photogear....its good enuff for me
personally if you can make do with cokin P-like system, the tianya one will be much better, and price is even lower than Hoya. some CSer are bringing them in as MO, the filter/holder/ring adapter cost roughly $10+/- per piece making it super worthwhile.