Don't about Australia immigration but had problems with US immigration. I think the guy at the US immigration was trying to be funny he asked me for my visa knowing full well that Singapore was under visa waiver program. Than he asked me for my IC. I don't normally bring my IC and isn't the passport enough.
The main problem is too many people think when they leave their home country they can act as they want and think any and every slight they experience is due to racism. Some of course is, but most isn't.
Last edited by CantikFotos; 30th November 2006 at 01:17 PM.
yeah, I've got the same experience in Perth.
Can't believe that they actually open my 40 rolls of film one by one, and line them up on the table. And also my filters, various filter attachment ring, step up rings, and other photography accesories, they put everything and display it on the long table at checking point.
while i will note there is racism everywhere even here in Singapore( i once had 4yr old child scream at me i nthe car park eee indian man much to the shame of his mother), i wonder if this issue is actually one of race or one of just doing a job. In the philipines, i had my bags checked, went through a metal detector and was patted down not once but twice, in thailand i cruised through, in australia not once have i encountered any hardcore pasar malam style checking though i did once see an englishman have his bag emptied of its contents and followed by his magazines checked page by page lol.
I think the process is like this. Just came back from ICT in Aussie. Also Pasar malam everything and it took 2-3 hours to clear the whole flight. But the officers are friendly, even in the early hours of 1-3 am. We're all irritated and tired after 7 hrs flight but no choice, its their customs regulations. Just bear with it.
During RnR at Rockhampton, also got some aussie guys in a car yelled at us. Some racism comments. We just yelled back!
imho, the 9/11 tragedy is what I think making these immigration policies strictly well-imposed on every foreigner entering a certain country. Because we'll never know when and where Saddam will come to strike back again!
the last thing to call it is to ever call it racism or discrimination.
Let us stick to the thread title and don't deviate otherwise it will turn into a "terrorist" thread.
If we all open our eyes a bit more, and look at things from the other side of the fence, it ain't that oppressive or racist isn't it? That having been said, it does take two hands to clap else ,it's not just a single party's face changing/blanching (take your pick).
I've been to Perth countless times and I'm pretty sure I find less racism there than in our neighbourhood markets, with ignorant housewives speaking to their kids not to mix with other races in their own dialect.
Many Singaporeans need to take a reality check and not be holier-than-thou when in another place. We are certainly racist enough here, just that social conditioning has made it into an almost SOP thing that could be explained away as a subset of something more innocuous, like economic/wage differential/class standing and the ilk.
Nasty truth, no one wants to hear it though.
We live in an age when unnecessary things are our only necessities. - Oscar Wilde
I for one get more discrimination in Sg than in other parts of the world and I'm not part of the minority either. I can't imagine what it is like to be part of the minority and living in Sg.
Discrimination comes many forms - age, sex, socio-economic, race.
Last edited by Tetrode; 25th November 2006 at 08:22 PM.
I find it really timely to read this thread as my hubby and I just returned from Melbourne yesterday. The travel agent told us our visa is valid for 1 year (multiple-entry) but we were only there for 5 nights. We were fortunate not to encounter any racism at the immigrations though we were queueing at the 'THINGS to DECLARE' lane cos when it's our turn, we went to a officer of Asian or Aborigini origin. He just took a look at our food items and let us go. It was 3am.
However, on our last day in Melbourne, we encountered a racist treatment which almost spoiled our holidays. I had purchased A$600 worth of merchandise from different outlets of a particular brand over our stay there and wanted to claim GST tax refund at the airport. The tax brochure clearly states that we can accumulate multiple receipts but we have to get the retailer to CONSOLIDATE all the receipts into 1 SINGLE invoice before we can claim tax refunds. When we went to the outlet nearest to our hotel in downtown Melbourne Central Shopping Centre, the lady manning the store was wearing the nametag of MANAGER. I thought, 'Good' she must know what to do. How hell wrong I was.
The moment we voiced our request for her to CONSOLIDATE the receipts - she said in a rude and condesending tone, 'NO, we don't do that.' We tried to show her that this is what the tax refund brochure states, she was not interested and repeated several times again annoyingly, 'NO, we don't do that. Tax refund is done at the airport'. I kept my cool and tried to explain to her that yes, we are aware that tax refund is only done at the airport but the brochures says to CONSOLIDATE all the receipts before the officers at the airport can process our refunds! She was not interested in what we were saying and just waved us off. We politely asked if she can check with her head office, she shook her head continuously, shrug her shoulders and kept repeating, 'WE DON'T DO IT!'. By now, some of the other customers in the shop was staring at us like some Chinese idiots trying to create trouble. She, being a MANAGER, was utterly RUDE even though she saw my receipts totalled S$600 of purchases from their brand! This is nothing but plain racism. We felt embarrassed by her treatment.
We walked out, went to our next shop (Country Road) and was served by a young pleasant Vietnamese salesgirl. When we told her that we wanted to claim tax refunds, she knew immediately what to do. She took our receipts, wrote down the purchase amounts into 1 single tax invoice, totalled the amount, got us to sign, and Viola! It's done in less than 5 minutes! We told her our encounter at the previous shop and she was puzzled as she said Melbourne Central is popular with tourists so they get such requests ALL THE TIME. So we took the sample invoice from Country Road and went back to the shop to show the racist manager. Instead of helping us, she that she DOES NOT have the invoice book and she can't do it for us. Throughout the whole conversation, she was very unfriendly and made us feel so unwelcome. We did not believe her and went back to Country Road to borrow their phone to contact the head office and explained our situation to 3 different persons.
Finally, to cut the long story short, after much ding-donging, the supervisor in the head office called the Manager of the store up and told her to follow what Country Road did and issue us a hand-written invoice. She insists that she received several of such requests everyday but she just told them 'WE DON'T DO IT'. After she put down the phone, she did not issue us the invoice immediately, she called 2 other colleagues in the head office to complain in full-view of us!! How rude. Surely she knew we could hear what she was complaining??! She was obviously damn 'buey-song' that she had to accede to our request. Then, she opened a little cupboard behind the cashier and know what? It was FULL of invoice books!!! She had lied to us!! We were very dismayed at her horrible atittude towards us - just because we are Asians.
It is a pity that our stay in Melbourne had to be tainted with such a racist salesperson but through our persistence, we got back A$90 in tax refunds. Still worth it but kinda leave a bad taste in your mouth. So much for my racist encounter in Australia. Sorry I wrote so much cos when you are victims of racism, you just want to vent and caution others.
Last edited by pixie_genie; 25th November 2006 at 09:16 PM.
how do you really 100% know that racism was the real reason?
it sounds more like procedural problem to me which could be happening in any shop.
let's say this thing happened in singapore, are we going to consider this as racism?
i agree with laserlordz post, it's very well said. when we point our fore finger to someone, the rest of the fingers are pointing back to us.
well..i guess we just need to keep it cool and reflect to ourself, do we do the same thing?
just my 2 cents lady.
I have to agree with above. It didn't sound like racism to me, more like a lousy service. And by mentioning the Vietnamese lady- to stress the difference - who is more racist?
Btw, I am Indonesian. Following the mention in earlier posting, this is how Indonesian women are treated. I travelled often to Singapore through Batam back in 1998 (economic crisis, dark year for Indonesian chinese), once I was questioned on my frequent visits and that I, although not overstaying, stayed for the full period my visa allowed me. The officer also asked how much money I carried and when told that I didn't have much because I had bank account in Singapore, informed me that it was "against law" not bringing enough cash. When I asked which law stated that, I was told to shut up as he had the power to refuse my entry. I shut up and he granted me ONE day visit pass.
Singapore also relies on tourism and Indonesians form a significant number.