Taking pictures in manual mode

Swakoo · 1st February 2003

I have been using EOS 500n and G2 camera..

one thing i can never comprehend.. is how to use manual mode to take picture.. i dunno how to appreciate the situation and decide the aperture and shutter speed... what you guys advice?

ckiang · 1st February 2003

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Originally posted by Swakoo
I have been using EOS 500n and G2 camera..

one thing i can never comprehend.. is how to use manual mode to take picture.. i dunno how to appreciate the situation and decide the aperture and shutter speed... what you guys advice?

Set desired aperture. Set shutter speed to match the aperture (the built-in meter will guide you on this). Decide whether to use something different from suggested (from experience).

Regards
CK

erwinx · 1st February 2003

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Originally posted by Swakoo
I have been using EOS 500n and G2 camera..

one thing i can never comprehend.. is how to use manual mode to take picture.. i dunno how to appreciate the situation and decide the aperture and shutter speed... what you guys advice?

any particular reason why you want to use manual mode? aperture priority/shutter priority not giving correct exposures?

Swakoo · 1st February 2003

nah just want to learn.. or should i learn though aperture/shutter piority instead?

ckiang, what you saying.. it seems to be like using the aperture/shutter piority?

ckiang · 1st February 2003

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Originally posted by Swakoo
nah just want to learn.. or should i learn though aperture/shutter piority instead?

ckiang, what you saying.. it seems to be like using the aperture/shutter piority?

Similar. But the "matching" is not done automatically.

Regards
CK

FOOXX · 1st February 2003

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Originally posted by Swakoo
I have been using EOS 500n and G2 camera..

one thing i can never comprehend.. is how to use manual mode to take picture.. i dunno how to appreciate the situation and decide the aperture and shutter speed... what you guys advice?

hmmm ..... maybe u can try to uze A mode ..... let the cam decide the shutter speed for u ..... n u juzt need to decide on the aperture size ( frm there u can control the DOF ) .....

then next time u more confident liao then switch to M ..... or when the light condition iz very complicated ( for example: when shooting firwworkz ) .....

1 thing u can do iz to join CS for shootz ..... then u can azk around for advice on how to shoot under different situationz .....

Snowcrash · 4th February 2003

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Originally posted by Swakoo
nah just want to learn.. or should i learn though aperture/shutter piority instead?

ckiang, what you saying.. it seems to be like using the aperture/shutter piority?

In manual mode, you set the both aperture and shutter speed. The +/- f stops is how far your setting is from built-in metering.

In aperture priority, you set the ap, the camera decide the shutter speed to match based on it's built-in metering.

In Shutter priority, you set the speed, the camera decide the aperture to match based on it's built-in metering.

Happy shooting! BTW, I started with aperture priority, and I take note of the shutter speed (handheld withou camera shake).

shorty · 4th February 2003

But I would suggest you to do as the tradition way in photographing. Shooting with fullmanual mode, it will built up the feelings and experiences of apertue and shutter speed combinations in general fields of shooting. So the next time you wanna shoot with either apertue or shutter priority, you will know a better outcome of your picture.

Swakoo · 4th February 2003

I see... i didn't know the camera +/- is use to show how far my settings is from the built in metering... my eos500n and G2 will have this +/- thing right?

I also thought that full manual mode would be better.. but I am just thinking.. it will be a lot of money spend from practising it.. or if I do it digitally.. would it be the same to apply it on SLR camera? digital don need to develop...

cheers

iceman · 4th February 2003

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Originally posted by Snowcrash

In manual mode, you set the both aperture and shutter speed. The +/- f stops is how far your setting is from built-in metering.

In aperture priority, you set the ap, the camera decide the shutter speed to match based on it's built-in metering.

In Shutter priority, you set the speed, the camera decide the aperture to match based on it's built-in metering.

Happy shooting! BTW, I started with aperture priority, and I take note of the shutter speed (handheld withou camera shake).

but fully manual mode and aperture/shuttle mode use different metering, right? at least that's what my dynax 5 manual says.

Swakoo · 18th April 2003

wah cheem.. i think i am slow in this...

and it will be worst when i get to using hotshoe...

iceman · 18th April 2003

just something to share :

when you use flash in the aperture priority, the camera will try to use the fastest shutle speed where possible.

hence i notice that even in dark lightnings, the shuttle speed is either 1/125s or 1/60s and the camera indicates that the exposure is correct. however, using the same aperture and shuttle settings in the manual mode, the camera indicates that it is underexposed.

happy shooting.

munfai · 18th April 2003

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Originally posted by iceman
but fully manual mode and aperture/shuttle mode use different metering, right? at least that's what my dynax 5 manual says.

no, metering mode is independent of the shooting mode.

munfai · 18th April 2003

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Originally posted by iceman
when you use flash in the aperture priority, the camera will try to use the fastest shutle speed where possible.

note that this behavious is very much dependant on the camera you are using. Minolta's flash systems works as you have described, whereas Canon's flash system works very differently.

For Canon in aperture priority mode, the shutter speed will always be set to expose the background correctly. So by default aperture priority mode means slow-sync for flash exposure.

crazyhorse · 18th April 2003

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Originally posted by munfai
no, metering mode is independent of the shooting mode.

Actually, it's a yes and no answer. Yes, because some cameras always use certain metering modes for certain shooting modes. For example, the eos 500N uses center-weighted metering for manual mode and evaluative metering for shutter priority. No because more advanced cameras allow you to switch metering mode regardless of the shooting mode used.

shorty · 18th April 2003

Actually, whatever metering the camera is using, User should start learning from the basic centre weighted metering. With pratices and time, you will build up the instinct of what combination of shutter and aperture you are going for. Basic still counts, just go ahead with trial and error.

munfai · 19th April 2003

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Originally posted by crazyhorse
Actually, it's a yes and no answer. Yes, because some cameras always use certain metering modes for certain shooting modes. For example, the eos 500N uses center-weighted metering for manual mode and evaluative metering for shutter priority. No because more advanced cameras allow you to switch metering mode regardless of the shooting mode used.

point taken... I was commenting based only on the Dynax 5

clive · 20th April 2003

one good scenario where manual exposure is well used: using flash in evening shots.

Swakoo · 20th April 2003

hmmm so.. in order to get season with playing around with shutter speed and aperture.. have to do trial and error.. and on a 35mm film camera, it means developing and see the result... right? $$$...

Zerstorer · 20th April 2003

If you want to shoot in full manual you will have to do the following.

First, appraise the scene and decide which is the important elements that need to be correctly exposed.

Then select the metering mode depending on what is available to you(Center weighted or Spot).

Point the metering area at your important subject and adjust aperture/shutter till it reads a correct exposure.

Shoot.

Knowing how to shoot in manual or overriding/compensating the A/S/P program modes in your camera requires you to know exactly how each mode of metering in your camera behaves. This will require you to first read the manual/web for a thorough explaination and confirm it through some sample shots. After that you would have a better idea of how the camera works.

1st February 2003	#1
Swakoo Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 197	Taking pictures in manual mode I have been using EOS 500n and G2 camera.. one thing i can never comprehend.. is how to use manual mode to take picture.. i dunno how to appreciate the situation and decide the aperture and shutter speed... what you guys advice?

4th February 2003	#8
shorty Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: near the beast zone Posts: 253	But I would suggest you to do as the tradition way in photographing. Shooting with fullmanual mode, it will built up the feelings and experiences of apertue and shutter speed combinations in general fields of shooting. So the next time you wanna shoot with either apertue or shutter priority, you will know a better outcome of your picture.

18th April 2003	#11
Swakoo Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 197	wah cheem.. i think i am slow in this... and it will be worst when i get to using hotshoe...

18th April 2003	#12
iceman Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: near e4 Posts: 413	just something to share : when you use flash in the aperture priority, the camera will try to use the fastest shutle speed where possible. hence i notice that even in dark lightnings, the shuttle speed is either 1/125s or 1/60s and the camera indicates that the exposure is correct. however, using the same aperture and shuttle settings in the manual mode, the camera indicates that it is underexposed. happy shooting.

20th April 2003	#18
clive Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 2,573	one good scenario where manual exposure is well used: using flash in evening shots.

20th April 2003	#20
Zerstorer Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,610	If you want to shoot in full manual you will have to do the following. First, appraise the scene and decide which is the important elements that need to be correctly exposed. Then select the metering mode depending on what is available to you(Center weighted or Spot). Point the metering area at your important subject and adjust aperture/shutter till it reads a correct exposure. Shoot. Knowing how to shoot in manual or overriding/compensating the A/S/P program modes in your camera requires you to know exactly how each mode of metering in your camera behaves. This will require you to first read the manual/web for a thorough explaination and confirm it through some sample shots. After that you would have a better idea of how the camera works.