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    Default How should I compose this?

    seems like the sand and the sea is not parallel....so should I make the sea straight and the children slanted or vice versa?


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    Default Re: How should I compose this?

    Well...

    If you dun mind me... Here's a comparision side by side :



    See which do you like better... personally I prefer the left one with the horizon straight. The boys are after all on a beach which is naturally sloped...
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    Default Re: How should I compose this?

    thanks...yup....mountain straight indeed is better looking than beach straight..but its rather interesting why beach, sea and mountain are not parallel to each other...

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    Quote Originally Posted by matrixneo View Post
    thanks...yup....mountain straight indeed is better looking than beach straight..but its rather interesting why beach, sea and mountain are not parallel to each other...
    cos u standing at the wrong angle mah...
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    Default Re: How should I compose this?

    Given me, I would have shot the same as the original picture then wonder what went wrong. Thanks zac. I just learn that it's better to shoot the horizon straight than otherwise.

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    How should I trim/crop this picture.
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    Default Re: How should I compose this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blu-By-U View Post
    Given me, I would have shot the same as the original picture then wonder what went wrong. Thanks zac. I just learn that it's better to shoot the horizon straight than otherwise.

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    How should I trim/crop this picture.
    It depends on what is the main subject in the picture...

    And it's up to individuals. You can crop off the old lady on the left and get a visual feel of either without the walls on the right (if I cropped from bottom) or if I cropped from the left, then I may get less details of the house of the left as well as missed the statue.

    So it all depends on what's important to you.
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    Default Re: How should I compose this?

    What I wanted was to show the basket carriers' support. The stick that they are "sitting" on.

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    Default Re: How should I compose this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blu-By-U View Post
    What I wanted was to show the basket carriers' support. The stick that they are "sitting" on.
    Something like this ?

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    Default Re: How should I compose this?

    Thanks. Why was I so stupid...I limited my self to only the fix croppings!!! Forgot that I can use free hand crop.

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    Default Re: How should I compose this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blu-By-U View Post
    What I wanted was to show the basket carriers' support. The stick that they are "sitting" on.
    i feel that you should crop into the two rolls of basket carriers facing each other, of cos while waiting for one of the face to turn around and look at you.

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    Default Re: How should I compose this?

    Quote Originally Posted by zac08 View Post
    Well...

    If you dun mind me... Here's a comparision side by side :



    See which do you like better... personally I prefer the left one with the horizon straight. The boys are after all on a beach which is naturally sloped...
    anyway to be blunt to the threadstarter, it isn't actually a choice of preference. unless it is an item that is dynamic in air (e.g. a plane) or something that is not traditionally visualised from ground, all pictures will require a straight horizon because our sense of aesthetics are formed from how we visualise and are taught to visualise. and that is why we have 2 major perculiarities in conventional photography where we do not break the rules and be creative - horizon and skin tone.

    and a correct horizon would be the one in the farthest distant (not necessarily what you can see) and will be supported by vertical components (unless distorted by an ultra-wide angle). and it will be the left that is correct. zac did a very good job to tilt it and illustrate it, although the bank can be further straightened. the reason why the shore is tilted is because you are facing the shoreline at an oblique angle, that is one part of the seashore is very near you and the further end is far from you. if you tilt even more, just imagine directly at the shoreline, eventually the shoreline would be at right angle to the horizon. just imagine you are at a bustop next to the road, the horizon will never change, but the road looks at different angle as you turn from facing front all the way to looking at the road to see if your bus is coming.

    for someone who just see the photo, in a telezoom framing, you may lost your sense of perspective as the interception point of the lines are lost outside the frame. however for the shooter who is aware of the surrounding, can actually make it out better when he look outside the frame

    (the link is down, not at home, will reupload another day)

    for example, i'm diagonal to the river and both banks are oblique to me, but the sense of horizon can still be achieved.
    Last edited by zoossh; 17th November 2006 at 10:22 PM.

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