Any ideas?

[wan]

Hi all,
Recently I did a video for my dept's yr end party.
My question is, say for example my dept is having deepavali gathering n they are having a mini concert where there is singing performance. Any idea about how the editing style would be? I need to edit it from 4hrs to 1hr.
I was thinking, how abt when the singer starts singing jus take few moments n da ending of the song. That wat its shorten from 5mins to say 1 min. Would that style be ok or bad idea.

[JRC]

Originally Posted by wan Hi all, Recently I did a video for my dept's yr end party. My question is, say for example my dept is having deepavali gathering n they are having a mini concert where there is singing performance. Any idea about how the editing style would be? I need to edit it from 4hrs to 1hr. I was thinking, how abt when the singer starts singing jus take few moments n da ending of the song. That wat its shorten from 5mins to say 1 min. Would that style be ok or bad idea.

Usually I think performance should be all included....unless the whole 4 hr is all on the performances. As you say it's like a mini concert so focus is on performance. Then just add other footages to bring out the deepavali theme. Just my opinion.

[dreamerz]

extract the essence of the performance...

[wan]

everything is performances. nothing else...

[shojibake]

If you're not paid extra for the work, you should just take the performance and dump it without as much editing as possible. 4 to 1 while maintaining the gist of the performance and inserting miscellaneous footage is a tall order. Unless you have a strict ruleset on how many minutes of the beginning and the ending you want to keep, you'll find yourself scrubbing through at least the realtime length of the footage. Coupled with the re-encoding time, that's going to amount to quite a bit.

[dinxcarin]

YOu can just do a full summary of the event. Take the best part on each performance like a few seconds maybe .
Inserting relevant clips in between would help not to make it so boring.
You can insert clips like facial reactions, group laughing, etc. Don't forget to include actual sounds too . see my video as an example

[wan]

Thank you very much for your inputs and help.
I've edited it from 3.5hrs to 35mins. every songs i cut about to 1min joined at paused interval and fade after each songs ( plus title of each song n singer at the beginning of each songs). Da ones which tha crowd loves i played for 2mins instead. Other than that the quizzes, audiences laughing clappin etc included
Some performers said that why the need to edit? but the fact is but nobody is gonna sit n watch that for full 3.5hrs. Only special request for the performer who wants their own performance in the cd to be the most. At a special price

[devilboy]

Originally Posted by wan Thank you very much for your inputs and help. I've edited it from 3.5hrs to 35mins. every songs i cut about to 1min joined at paused interval and fade after each songs ( plus title of each song n singer at the beginning of each songs). Da ones which tha crowd loves i played for 2mins instead. Other than that the quizzes, audiences laughing clappin etc included Some performers said that why the need to edit? but the fact is but nobody is gonna sit n watch that for full 3.5hrs. Only special request for the performer who wants their own performance in the cd to be the most. At a special price

Filming a Performance was my favourite part, usually will deploy 02 cameras, one for capturing everything, one for close up... nice, can capture expression of the performer... however, editing is abit taxing.

[sundazz]

Originally Posted by devilboy Filming a Performance was my favourite part, usually will deploy 02 cameras, one for capturing everything, one for close up... nice, can capture expression of the performer... however, editing is abit taxing.

yes.. multicam is fun, esp live switching between cams and project live! for editing not tat taxing, get the first film rite if u have the cams rolling continues if possible.. but if have multi-cam, i usually propose live switching + live recording

[devilboy]

Originally Posted by sundazz yes.. multicam is fun, esp live switching between cams and project live! for editing not tat taxing, get the first film rite if u have the cams rolling continues if possible.. but if have multi-cam, i usually propose live switching + live recording

that one over my capablities, needs a team liao....

[sundazz]

Originally Posted by devilboy that one over my capablities, needs a team liao....

oh yes.. u diffinately need a team to do the job.. do let me know if u have such job, we can do that.. and maybe u handle one of the camera work.

[wan]

man... can i join?

[wan]

but im using on dvc62. not sure good enuff or not

[devilboy]

Originally Posted by sundazz oh yes.. u diffinately need a team to do the job.. do let me know if u have such job, we can do that.. and maybe u handle one of the camera work.

If you have such offers, I am more than happy to be part of it... My partners and I can play the front assault, covering backstage prep and full frontal performance... that will be fun fun fun... heard already hands itchy liao..... Need to be challenged in higher platform event, not just weddings.... it can be abit bored.

[sundazz]

Originally Posted by devilboy If you have such offers, I am more than happy to be part of it... My partners and I can play the front assault, covering backstage prep and full frontal performance... that will be fun fun fun... heard already hands itchy liao..... Need to be challenged in higher platform event, not just weddings.... it can be abit bored.

aiyah.. just had 1 high profile event last month, over liao.. if know u guys earlier may have engage u guys liao.. the 2 professional camera persons we hired cant handle well with PD150 and 170 that we rented them.. they are more profficient with broadcast full size camcorder . ended up shooting with inconsistant of audio level and colour temp.. lucky we have a safe cam for cut away..
in this case i guess u guys know your camera best then any other persons.. will diffinately consider you guys if have any more of this job in future

[DXNMedia]

Originally Posted by sundazz aiyah.. just had 1 high profile event last month, over liao.. if know u guys earlier may have engage u guys liao.. the 2 professional camera persons we hired cant handle well with PD150 and 170 that we rented them.. they are more profficient with broadcast full size camcorder . ended up shooting with inconsistant of audio level and colour temp.. lucky we have a safe cam for cut away.. in this case i guess u guys know your camera best then any other persons.. will diffinately consider you guys if have any more of this job in future

Sorry to dig up a week-old thread, but that's a darn lame excuse for not being up to the job... :nono

Broadcast fullsize camera are similar in operations to the little PD150/170!..Just that buttons are at a different location. 10mins of fiddling with the camera prior to the event will let any proficient cameraman who have full-size camera experience to learn the operations!!!!

Totally no excuse for not being able to setup color temp and audio levels correctly!!!

[alvinsclee]

Originally Posted by DXNMedia Sorry to dig up a week-old thread, but that's a darn lame excuse for not being up to the job... :nono Broadcast fullsize camera are similar in operations to the little PD150/170!..Just that buttons are at a different location. 10mins of fiddling with the camera prior to the event will let any proficient cameraman who have full-size camera experience to learn the operations!!!! Totally no excuse for not being able to setup color temp and audio levels correctly!!!

Call themselves pro... got colour temp and audio levels setup badly... sure 'kena' from me left and right (hey, it's stereo!) if I am the producer... too bad I'm long out of the profession to be a barking watchdog... er, actually I'm a nice doggie and won't bite

[DXNMedia]

We need quality in our local work!! We need people like you back in our broadcast or video industry!!!!

[ilovehouse]

Heh.

I agree. if you're proficient in the broadcast ENG type of cameras, a scaled down PD camera wont be a challenge to you.

Sigh. sigh sigh.

The HDV V1 is a real beauty though.

[Faiz]

Hahaha any professional cameraman should be able to handle any kinda camera given to the operator! Shame on that so called pro! even if u have to handle a consumer camera u shld be able to operate it !