Regarding Tokina AF 80-200mm F2.8 - AT-X 828 AF PRO

hanqiang1011 · 25th October 2006

HI all,

I have found this lens, Tokina AF 80-200mm f2.8 - AT-X 828 AF PRO to be quite useful after the launch of Tokina 16-50mm f2.8 next year. Has any seniors here used this Tokina 80-200mm f2.8 before? I know it has differences between Canon L so spare me the comparations betwwen Tokina and Canon L. I just need feedbacks from this Tokina piece before making any final decisions.

Thanks all...

Bye.

chunsan · 25th October 2006

Good lens at affordable price, has been using for the past 7 to 8 years. Do not intent to sell too.

Secondly, I only trust Tokina the third party lens.

REgards
chunsan

ortega · 25th October 2006

Originally Posted by chunsan

Good lens at affordable price, has been using for the past 7 to 8 years. Do not intent to sell too.

Secondly, I only trust Tokina the third party lens.

REgards
chunsan

same here
but i have the older red ring version, using for at least 15 years already
i would like the min focusing distance to be closer.

hanqiang1011 · 25th October 2006

Originally Posted by ortega

same here
but i have the older red ring version, using for at least 15 years already
i would like the min focusing distance to be closer.

What does the red ring do? Any difference to normal copy?

By the way, the focus speed fast, slow or noisy?

I certainly like to own one as an alternative to EF 70-200mm f2.8 L USM...

Cheers...

hanqiang1011 · 25th October 2006

Originally Posted by chunsan

Good lens at affordable price, has been using for the past 7 to 8 years. Do not intent to sell too.

Secondly, I only trust Tokina the third party lens.

REgards
chunsan

Me trust Tokina too... Would like to start off with Tokina as I move on to next level...

Cheers...

ortega · 25th October 2006

Originally Posted by hanqiang1011

What does the red ring do? Any difference to normal copy?

By the way, the focus speed fast, slow or noisy?

I certainly like to own one as an alternative to EF 70-200mm f2.8 L USM...

Cheers...

red ring version is AT-X back then there was no such thing as a AT-X Pro (Gold Ring)

PhotoTime · 26th October 2006

Sorry OT abit. Comparing this lens with the Nikon 80-200mm F2.8, which lens produced better image? I am thinking is it worthwhile to get a new Tokina lens or a second hand Nikon Lens.

ortega · 26th October 2006

Originally Posted by PhotoTime

Sorry OT abit. Comparing this lens with the Nikon 80-200mm F2.8, which lens produced better image? I am thinking is it worthwhile to get a new Tokina lens or a second hand Nikon Lens.

without considering the skills of the photographer i would say get a used nikkor
but if budget is a consideration, i'd say get a used tokina, 2nd hand price is really attractive

PhotoTime · 26th October 2006

Thanks for your advice.

hanqiang1011 · 27th October 2006

How much would a second hand price cost?

For Nikon or Canon Mount, is there price diffence?

soldier · 30th October 2006

Images are softer than Nikon 80 - 200 when taking 200mm at f2.8 to 4.5. Requires some pp. Want to buy, haha buy from me if you don't mind slightly soft images

hanqiang1011 · 31st October 2006

Originally Posted by soldier

Images are softer than Nikon 80 - 200 when taking 200mm at f2.8 to 4.5. Requires some pp. Want to buy, haha buy from me if you don't mind slightly soft images

Unfortunately I need the Canon Mount... but compared to EF 70-210mm f3.5-4.5 (which I have and rumoured to be a half L), I wonder how the Tokina will fare cos the images profuced are fantasic... at f5.6 even best...

ortega · 31st October 2006

let me dig up a picture from an my old red ring version
and yes at the Extremes the image is a little soft

Extreme = max focal lenght, min focus distance, max aperture

ortega · 31st October 2006

here is one not at the Extreme

user111 · 31st October 2006

some points to consider:

there have been complaints of it being soft wide open
the AF is slower than AFS or USM(ring)
the build quality is good
the tripod collar should be screw on type.
the price is lower than original brand.
the size is slight smaller than original brand

smallaperture · 31st October 2006

Just remember one thing KRW said, "Amateurs worry too much about sharpness and noise." or something to that effect.

hanqiang1011 · 31st October 2006

Originally Posted by ortega

let me dig up a picture from an my old red ring version
and yes at the Extremes the image is a little soft

Extreme = max focal lenght, min focus distance, max aperture

Awesome... The colours are very vibrant...

hanqiang1011 · 31st October 2006

Originally Posted by ortega

here is one not at the Extreme

Fantastic sharpness...

hanqiang1011 · 31st October 2006

I think I should go around trying one first...

Nub-bie · 1st November 2006

i found a way to fix the soft images from 2.8 up to 4.5, get an ND4 filter, it removes the glowy effect from the shots,sharpens the pics by a whole lot... it also ensures proper exposure... dunno y i feel that this lens tends to go abit overexposed at 2.8 - 4.5 resulting in the blur, without the filter there may also be a purpulish ghost image in some shots as a result of its inadequacy to capture light that bounces back properly.

25th October 2006	#1
hanqiang1011 Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Woodlands Posts: 1,839	Regarding Tokina AF 80-200mm F2.8 - AT-X 828 AF PRO HI all, I have found this lens, Tokina AF 80-200mm f2.8 - AT-X 828 AF PRO to be quite useful after the launch of Tokina 16-50mm f2.8 next year. Has any seniors here used this Tokina 80-200mm f2.8 before? I know it has differences between Canon L so spare me the comparations betwwen Tokina and Canon L. I just need feedbacks from this Tokina piece before making any final decisions. Thanks all... Bye. __________________ http://jackfongphoto.livejournal.com/ Copyright 2009 © by Jack Fong. All rights reserved. Last edited by hanqiang1011; 25th October 2006 at 09:16 AM.

25th October 2006	#2
chunsan Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Eastern Part of Singapore Posts: 380	Re: Regarding Tokina AF 80-200mm F2.8 - AT-X 828 AF PRO Good lens at affordable price, has been using for the past 7 to 8 years. Do not intent to sell too. Secondly, I only trust Tokina the third party lens. REgards chunsan

26th October 2006	#7
PhotoTime Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 343	Re: Regarding Tokina AF 80-200mm F2.8 - AT-X 828 AF PRO Sorry OT abit. Comparing this lens with the Nikon 80-200mm F2.8, which lens produced better image? I am thinking is it worthwhile to get a new Tokina lens or a second hand Nikon Lens.

26th October 2006	#9
PhotoTime Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 343	Re: Regarding Tokina AF 80-200mm F2.8 - AT-X 828 AF PRO Thanks for your advice.

27th October 2006	#10
hanqiang1011 Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Woodlands Posts: 1,839	Re: Regarding Tokina AF 80-200mm F2.8 - AT-X 828 AF PRO How much would a second hand price cost? For Nikon or Canon Mount, is there price diffence? __________________ http://jackfongphoto.livejournal.com/ Copyright 2009 © by Jack Fong. All rights reserved.

30th October 2006	#11
soldier Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 124	Re: Regarding Tokina AF 80-200mm F2.8 - AT-X 828 AF PRO Images are softer than Nikon 80 - 200 when taking 200mm at f2.8 to 4.5. Requires some pp. Want to buy, haha buy from me if you don't mind slightly soft images

31st October 2006	#13
ortega Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: NorthEast Posts: 16,505	Re: Regarding Tokina AF 80-200mm F2.8 - AT-X 828 AF PRO let me dig up a picture from an my old red ring version and yes at the Extremes the image is a little soft Extreme = max focal lenght, min focus distance, max aperture __________________ The Law Last edited by ortega; 31st October 2006 at 02:38 PM.

31st October 2006	#15
user111 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 4,719	Re: Regarding Tokina AF 80-200mm F2.8 - AT-X 828 AF PRO some points to consider: there have been complaints of it being soft wide open the AF is slower than AFS or USM(ring) the build quality is good the tripod collar should be screw on type. the price is lower than original brand. the size is slight smaller than original brand

31st October 2006	#16
smallaperture Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Catchment Area Posts: 2,423	Re: Regarding Tokina AF 80-200mm F2.8 - AT-X 828 AF PRO Just remember one thing KRW said, "Amateurs worry too much about sharpness and noise." or something to that effect. __________________ I love big car, big house, big lenses, but small apertures.

1st November 2006	#20
Nub-bie Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Serangoon Posts: 137	Re: Regarding Tokina AF 80-200mm F2.8 - AT-X 828 AF PRO i found a way to fix the soft images from 2.8 up to 4.5, get an ND4 filter, it removes the glowy effect from the shots,sharpens the pics by a whole lot... it also ensures proper exposure... dunno y i feel that this lens tends to go abit overexposed at 2.8 - 4.5 resulting in the blur, without the filter there may also be a purpulish ghost image in some shots as a result of its inadequacy to capture light that bounces back properly.