kit len ability

[GilbertGoh]

i used my kit lens, not Post done. C&C are very welcome. this is my fav out of the many i took.

[etegration]

try focusing on the eyes of the doggie. the whole pic seems unfocus and soft.

[canongrapherL]

I may be wrong but it seems like the nose is more in focus than anything.

[waileong]

Funny headline, I thought you were going to show kit lens pix vs L lens pix, or that you were going to write a piece about why you love your kit lens.

[GilbertGoh]

this was taken in a car while the car is moving. it is overexpose. i used paint to resize it to 25%. done with the 400d kit. done at close range and yes nose was the point i was focusing on.

[GilbertGoh]

Originally Posted by waileong Funny headline, I thought you were going to show kit lens pix vs L lens pix, or that you were going to write a piece about why you love your kit lens.

i do not own a L len as yet and i am trying to convince myself to get one. about writing a piece on the my kit len, i find no need to. i am trying to see if any one can take 2 similiar pic with L and kit. then we see if the L is really that good. No post done of coz.

[renewification]

Originally Posted by GilbertGoh i do not own a L len as yet and i am trying to convince myself to get one. about writing a piece on the my kit len, i find no need to. i am trying to see if any one can take 2 similiar pic with L and kit. then we see if the L is really that good. No post done of coz.

the L lens is that good when u see it big.

[GilbertGoh]

Originally Posted by renewification the L lens is that good when u see it big.

i want to ask, how many ppl here print in A3 and above?

[canongrapherL]

ME! ME! I need to print bigger than A4. Anyone knows here I can go to for printing out huge canvas printouts at good price?

I want to print out a picture of my 3 year old son in huge print of 24" X 36" or bigger depending on price. Any printing shops to recommend?



About the kit lens, we have discussed about it so many times liao. The kit lens is really sharp. The problem is the lower contrast and resolving power. If you do not do post-processing, the picture can look very gloomy. Simply push the contrast up a little in photoshop and you can get very usable and nice results.

Originally Posted by GilbertGoh i want to ask, how many ppl here print in A3 and above?

[calebk]

Adding contrast in photoshop + kit lens = L lens.

[canongrapherL]

haha, not really lah. Photoshop can work wonders and but not make the kit lens perform like L lens. There are still many other attributes of the L lens that surpasses the kit lens.

Originally Posted by calebk Adding contrast in photoshop + kit lens = L lens.

[calebk]

Yep. Although you can make the DOF of a 50f/1.8 look like 50f/1, you'll never get the same IQ, no matter how much you tweak.

[JediForce4ever]

Originally Posted by GilbertGoh this was taken in a car while the car is moving. it is overexpose.

this makes the results inaccurate.

[+evenstar]

Originally Posted by canongrapherL ME! ME! I need to print bigger than A4. Anyone knows here I can go to for printing out huge canvas printouts at good price? I want to print out a picture of my 3 year old son in huge print of 24" X 36" or bigger depending on price. Any printing shops to recommend? About the kit lens, we have discussed about it so many times liao. The kit lens is really sharp. The problem is the lower contrast and resolving power. If you do not do post-processing, the picture can look very gloomy. Simply push the contrast up a little in photoshop and you can get very usable and nice results.

well, do you print that big everytime?

[canongrapherL]

The answer is NO. Becos I review first to select the better pictures, then I send in for big prints. In short, I have to shoot the best everytime first, then do the selection later



Back to the original question:

"Anyone knows here I can go to for printing out huge canvas printouts at good price?

I want to print out a picture of my 3 year old son in huge print of 24" X 36" or bigger depending on price. Any printing shops to recommend?"

Originally Posted by +evenstar well, do you print that big everytime?

[r32]

Just for the sake of argument, there are times where you have to crop the image - such situations will test the resolving power of your optical glass more.

Your kit lens, if you consider its worth (much less than $200) has any L lens beat in the dollars to performance stakes. But it isn't going to be close to what an L lens can deliver. Other than the softness and lack of contrast that others have mentioned I have also noted that there seems to be more flare. With strongly backlit situations you may find that there is more chromatic aberrations that cannot be easily removed in postprocess.

For what its worth, I've been able to tell the difference between a 70-200mm F/2.8L IS and a 70-200mm F/4L, even with a full frame shot (RAW unedited image, in terms of sharpness, contrast and colour saturation). That of course does not prohibit you from tweaking an image up to try to deliver L-lens quality. But you are going to have to get your hands on a copy of a decent image editing program other than MS Paint in order to massage the image more.

Of course, you don't have to have an L lens to enjoy your photography and power to you if what you have works for you. i bought my 17-40mm F/4L simply because my DSLR was a first generation type with a slow and insensitive AF sensor. The L lens has a 1.2m infinity setting, which means that I can have it set to infinity to point and shoot without needing to use AF. And during that time, cheap wideangles were not plentiful given that I wanted to stay within Canon (my widest lens then was a 28-105mm).

Perhaps you should rent an L lens for a day or two, and compare it to your kit lens.

[jdredd]

as others have said.. blown highlihgts.. and quite soft... either due to shutter speed.. or misfocusing or hand movement due to the fact it was in a car..

not sure really why u posted this picture. u have a cute dog.. u can do much better than this.

[midicity]

Normally, for portraits of any kind, be it human or animals, most would focus on the eyes because the eyes are the 1st things that you look at when u look at a photo.

Unless you want achieve some special effects..

[raptor84]

Commented on this before. Watch the exposre modes and learn how your camera evaluates metering. If you dare you cna rent/borrow other lenses form friends to see what you might be missing. My wallet became $1k lighter after trying out a 70-200 f/4 =p

[Russ]

Comments: Not bad, as you say overexposed due to the dark background fooling the camera
However, lacks the resolution of some of the better lenses out there.
Do a 100% view and you will see.

To me the kit lens is sometimes not good enough ...

It is not just about printing big.
Sometimes, when I need to crop a lot off, the resolution of a good lens makes a real difference even when printed 6x4 inches.

Before anyone says "You should have framed better" - well sometimes, there is not time to get the right lens or walk closer to the subject and you just have to shoot with what you have. Not every subject waits for you!!