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    And now you agree that she's not mature enough to give such comments, bearing in mind that she's also wearing 2 hats of being the daughter of an MP!

    Quote Originally Posted by scramblur11 View Post
    at her age, how much maturity does she haf? and u talk about majoirty of ppl in spore facing mid life crisis, do u know the majoirty of ppl in spore in order to know this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by scramblur11 View Post
    didnt know tat we cant think and talk at all during NS...is it supposed to be like tat during your time?
    also blood and sweat, not just thinking and talking without experience

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    I think you missed this bro. Freedom of speech? We're top from the bottom!

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    freedom of speech mah....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Virgo View Post
    And now you agree that she's not mature enough to give such comments, bearing in mind that she's also wearing 2 hats of being the daughter of an MP!
    yupz I agree she is nt matured enough at her age and wat she say may nt be right....but I got to admit tat she does take the effort to try and think about it....which nt many 18 yrs old will do...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Virgo View Post
    I think you missed this bro. Freedom of speech? We're top from the bottom!
    ya but ppl who wanted freedom of speech also dun allow other ppl to haf freedom of speech mah..



    Quote Originally Posted by ortega
    also blood and sweat, not just thinking and talking without experience
    so onli those wif experience den can talk and think, according to u?

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    Making the effort doen't mean that one has to use such strong languages and ignore the feelings of the article-writer, let alone so many middle-aged ppl here. That is the reason why she's gun down.

    I do agree that she's got the courage, but still, her arrogance of being an 'elite' definitely is not a cup of tea for thousands, if not millions in Singapore.

    Quote Originally Posted by scramblur11 View Post
    yupz I agree she is nt matured enough at her age and wat she say may nt be right....but I got to admit tat she does take the effort to try and think about it....which nt many 18 yrs old will do...
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    Quote Originally Posted by scramblur11 View Post
    so onli those wif experience den can talk and think, according to u?
    only those with experience can talk and think better
    yes according to me

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    Quote Originally Posted by scramblur11
    at least she got put some thinking into the policies of this country, and for her she support it....do u tink many 18yrs old now or last time will even care abt these types of things meh?
    She don't have the life experience to offer a balanced viewpoint of how difficult it is to support a family in Singapore, the job situation and what to expect when a person has been retrenched, the anxiety whether they are able to get another same paying job, though the statistics will show that they got re-employed within some months but at same paying salary? fat chance.

    She doesn't have these experiences to even understand let alone to comment and criticise others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scramblur11 View Post
    at her age, how much maturity does she haf?
    com'on, don't gimme that!!

    if she hasn't as much of a common sense or some little level of maturity(at 18yrs old! GASP!), then whatever her past 18yrs of existence is quite rightly, buried in her small little world of 'elitism'. wahahaha

    sad excuse for a 'tough talking' blogger!

    Quote Originally Posted by scramblur11 View Post
    and u talk about majoirty of ppl in spore facing mid life crisis, do u know the majoirty of ppl in spore in order to know this?
    i can't say for sure, but hey, it might be anyone who isn't from the 'elite' school such as she is!! wait a min... dun tell me they are all... gasp. 'unfeeling'?
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    Well said. This is exactly what we all are trying to drive at, and I hope this will teach her (considered herself an elite) a very good lesson to think before she write; definitely a pre-requisite of an elite. We don't write this way if we don't have the experience, do we?

    Quote Originally Posted by azul123 View Post
    She don't have the life experience to offer a balanced viewpoint of how difficult it is to support a family in Singapore, the job situation and what to expect when a person has been retrenched, the anxiety whether they are able to get another same paying job, though the statistics will show that they got re-employed within some months but at same paying salary? fat chance.

    She doesn't have these experiences to even understand let alone to comment and criticise others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scramblur11 View Post
    yupz I agree she is nt matured enough at her age and wat she say may nt be right....but I got to admit tat she does take the effort to try and think about it....which nt many 18 yrs old will do...
    like i said...

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    Quote Originally Posted by scramblur11
    anyway, I tink there will nt be this much 'hoo ha' if she wasnt the child of a MP or from any top school.... it is freedom of speech right? thought alot of u ppl wan it?
    Precisely that she is an MP's daughter and privileged enough to have silver spoon up her "yap" that she needs to be more sensitive to these type of things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by azul123 View Post
    She don't have the life experience to offer a balanced viewpoint of how difficult it is to support a family in Singapore, the job situation and what to expect when a person has been retrenched, the anxiety whether they are able to get another same paying job, though the statistics will show that they got re-employed within some months but at same paying salary? fat chance.

    She doesn't have these experiences to even understand let alone to comment and criticise others.

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    right on azul.
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    And bearing in mind that she considers herself an elite!

    Quote Originally Posted by azul123 View Post
    Precisely that she is an MP's daughter and privileged enough to have silver spoon up her "yap" that she needs to be more sensitive to these type of things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loupisk View Post
    FYI

    This is the latest ranking of press freedom in the world done by Reporters without frontiers.

    Can be found on :

    http://www.rsf.org/article.php3?id_article=19388

    SG is number 146 on 168 countries. 168 is North Korea !


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    bloody hell, even somalia have more freedom than us... oh well... replay Black Hawk Down (damn they have bazookas, tats real freedom alrite)
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    Anyone can talk and think, but sensibly is the key, definitely not from an elite, or one who thinks that he/she is an elite!

    Quote Originally Posted by scramblur11 View Post
    so onli those wif experience den can talk and think, according to u?
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    Quote Originally Posted by scramblur11
    ya but ppl who wanted freedom of speech also dun allow other ppl to haf freedom of speech mah..

    so onli those wif experience den can talk and think, according to u?
    Free speech yes... but can you be allowed to say anything? without basis or facts to support you? cannot right? if you are insensitive to others then do expect to get the same harsh response.

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    I agree that the parties all have a point.
    The rjc girl should have been more sensitive with her choice of language. Ironically she's from an elite school.
    And I hope the govt can further look into the issue and hear even more from the common man on the street.
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    "In order to be old and wise, first you have to be young and foolish"

    This, I think, is what that has happened here.

    She gets credit for thinking about the issue, but deserves the flame for tactlessness and having no heart for not putting herself in the shoes of someone else. Her dad deserves the flame, for half hearted defense for the daughter. Why defend her? Let her fall. Otherwise she will never learn.

    It is sad to see all this happening in here. Poor Wees.

    Derek, think regional. You are more valuable than you think. Singapore is small, the world is big. If you don't learn to get out of your comfort zone, you will never have a breakthrough.

    Little Wee, learn some manners. If you want to become an elite, you better brush up on tact and people skills. You could have put your point through in a better way, but such angst and harshness only makes me think... why are the Singaporean youth so angry?

    In fact, why are Singaporeans in general so angry these days? Why the arrogance? Looking at many of the posts in here sometimes makes me think... what happened to us all?

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    my 2 cents worth...

    it may just sound like a JC vs Poly (the never ending comparison) the Elites vs the Dropouts... its just plain lucky that Derek wasn't from ITE, else i can just see how far it would go... but true enuff, look around... i've just felt it, people in express stream look down on normal stream (happen to me), ppl who goes poly then look down by ppl in JC (happen to me too), the point is, at least i also get my degree... just took a longer time... while enjoying every part of it... slowly...

    the so called elites, i mean, end of the day, if u ask me, if they take up engineering, would they know how to tighten a screw or install a 3-pin plug as compared to a poly student? cos all talk are just plain cheap... but they know how to think... and everybody have their own field of specialities, not just that when your mom/dad is a MP, then say, hey there is like x number of MP, hence u are a elite (minority complex), so elite girl the dad calls, elite girl elite = elite... are u elite? nope, not proven until you are... 18 year old in RJC = elite? hmm... did i miss something? hopefully not...

    end of the day, if the parents can't teach a kid manners, the society will teach, now is the time to reflect... i doubt the teachers even dare to teach her any... just let the society do the beating... hope she does reflect... *hope i get my CPF money when i am old... me no elite, and neither me got money* *continue drive taxi...
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