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Old 24th October 2006   #1
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Question Help needed in getting flashes

hi all,
I'm using a 20D and i intend to get a flash for her.
I'm stuck when i'm deciding which one to get. I've tried searching the past thread but was not able to get any clue.

- How do i guage which flash to get?
- Do i have to like agar agar estimate the range/distance of the flash coverage or wat kind of shoot i'm doing?
- When i went down to CP they told me to get a 580EX. Does a 20D really need a 580EX or i can just make do with 420EX?
- Would u guys recomment a 420EX or a 430EX?

Thats all for now...

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Old 24th October 2006   #2
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get the one that your pocket allows.
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Old 24th October 2006   #3
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sigma DG500 super for $380. or the canon 430EX for around the same price.
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20D can take any EX series flash.
I am using the Sigma DG500 - works fine.

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Do note that if you want to maximise E-TTL II auto flash compensation, you might want to use a EX series speedlight.
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Originally Posted by calebk View Post
Do note that if you want to maximise E-TTL II auto flash compensation, you might want to use a EX series speedlight.
that is...IF you can still find new EZ flashes...quite rare already..
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that is...IF you can still find new EZ flashes...quite rare already..
calebk said EX not EZ.
Anyway, EZ only works in manual mode with 20D.
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Originally Posted by Russ View Post
calebk said EX not EZ.
Anyway, EZ only works in manual mode with 20D.
EZ got Ettl-II ?
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Originally Posted by Russ View Post
calebk said EX not EZ.
Anyway, EZ only works in manual mode with 20D.
few months back i was the one enforcing the idea that ETTL-II was in the camera rather than the flash, of course i know that only EX-series flashes support ETTL-II

calebk said "you might want to use EX", so the point i was getting across is that "IF you can still find EZ flashes" in response to calebk's comment -> point to make is that there's actually no need to specifically state EX flashes cos almost all new canon flashes in the market are all EX flashes. use of the english language to bring out a point in an indirect way...
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Hi there,

Please check this link. It will help you take an informed decision.

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/R...sh-Review.aspx

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ex 550 also not bad,it support ttl system,and the power also strong.if u not always use flash,better buy a second hand ex 550.market around $400.
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If i not wrong 420EX does not support ETTL-II while the 430EX do support the ETTL-II interface which comes with the 20D. Unless you need the extented range or the more focusing point of the 580EX, the 430EX will do exceptionally well with your camera. 430EX has up to 9 focusing point which is suitable for 20D/30D/350D/400D.
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I have a question regarding the AF system.

If you utilise bounce flash (non-direct flash), does the AF point matter?
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Originally Posted by CanonEOS View Post
If i not wrong 420EX does not support ETTL-II while the 430EX do support the ETTL-II interface which comes with the 20D. Unless you need the extented range or the more focusing point of the 580EX, the 430EX will do exceptionally well with your camera. 430EX has up to 9 focusing point which is suitable for 20D/30D/350D/400D.
ALL EX series flashes SUPPORT ETTL-II.

ETTL-II is IN-CAMERA, not in-flash
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ALL EX series flashes SUPPORT ETTL-II.

ETTL-II is IN-CAMERA, not in-flash
i dont think 420ex support ETTL-II, im using one.
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Originally Posted by CanonEOS View Post
If i not wrong 420EX does not support ETTL-II while the 430EX do support the ETTL-II interface which comes with the 20D. Unless you need the extented range or the more focusing point of the 580EX, the 430EX will do exceptionally well with your camera. 430EX has up to 9 focusing point which is suitable for 20D/30D/350D/400D.
350D has only 7 focus point.
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i dont think 420ex support ETTL-II, im using one.
what makes you think so?
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Originally Posted by elfvin View Post
i dont think 420ex support ETTL-II, im using one.
please do yourself a favour and read the manual before posting an answer like this.

extracted from http://photonotes.org/articles/eos-flash/#ettlii -

"Flash units which support E-TTL II:
All EX series Speedlites: 220EX, 380EX, 420EX, 430EX, 550EX, 580EX, MR-14EX, MT-24EX.
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Originally Posted by varf View Post
please do yourself a favour and read the manual before posting an answer like this.

extracted from http://photonotes.org/articles/eos-flash/#ettlii -

"Flash units which support E-TTL II:
All EX series Speedlites: 220EX, 380EX, 420EX, 430EX, 550EX, 580EX, MR-14EX, MT-24EX.
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Yes it's correct as the EX series of speedlites support ETTL-II as it is cam body dependant.
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Originally Posted by Ravenfoo View Post
hi all,
I'm using a 20D and i intend to get a flash for her.
I'm stuck when i'm deciding which one to get. I've tried searching the past thread but was not able to get any clue.

- How do i guage which flash to get?
- Do i have to like agar agar estimate the range/distance of the flash coverage or wat kind of shoot i'm doing?
- When i went down to CP they told me to get a 580EX. Does a 20D really need a 580EX or i can just make do with 420EX?
- Would u guys recomment a 420EX or a 430EX?

Thats all for now...

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Happy Holiday to all CSers...
If u're willing to spend more, get the 580EX. I've bought it to replace my older 420EX and have not regretted.
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