Canon PowerShot G7

bpribadi · 21st October 2006

I saw G7 in Alan Photo yesterday, at SGD 880.- (without bargaining).

Overall, pretty fast start up and response, smaller than the previous Gs, nice black retro look, and no lens cap

Will bring my SD card, and try it out one day...

I've been looking for compact with hot shoe (already have Canon flash), and good movie capability (very important for me). So far G7 is the best choice. I hate the pixel increase, I wish they stick with 6-7 Mp with better noise profile. But well, let's see how good is G7 at ISO 400 (I don't expect more than a good ISO 400). No RAW is another drawback, but I can live with it (I love RAW though

).

Waiting for the reviews now

For those who has tried and have sample pics, please post here

Thanks!

noob117 · 23rd October 2006

hey is this the new cam wif the DIG!C III?

Final_depth · 23rd October 2006

yups.. the new canon G7 does hav the DIGIC III image prcessor

aaron80 · 23rd October 2006

and comes with the new face detection technology as well.. Last week when I was at Funan AP saw a lady getting this cam.. Seems its quite hot..

kayheem · 23rd October 2006

Ya...I would have preferred a cleaner pic at high ISO at 6-8MP than a noisier pic at 10MP. I do miss the flip screen of the G6 though.

I did try it out at Funan. The image at ISO 800 looked a bit noisy, but I did not compare it with the 350D. If it is anything close to the 350D, it would be interesting.

bpribadi · 23rd October 2006

Originally Posted by kayheem

Ya...I would have preferred a cleaner pic at high ISO at 6-8MP than a noisier pic at 10MP. I do miss the flip screen of the G6 though.

I did try it out at Funan. The image at ISO 800 looked a bit noisy, but I did not compare it with the 350D. If it is anything close to the 350D, it would be interesting.

Do you have any ISO 400 pics? Mind to post it? Thanks!

kayheem · 23rd October 2006

Sorry, I did not have any CF card with me. I just tried it out on their CF card. You can pop over and try it out.

Scratchy · 24th October 2006

Who knows where to get the best deal now for this camera now. Really wish to get 1 to try. Thanks.

crusher · 24th October 2006

One ISO 400 sample here: http://www.dcresource.com/reviews/ca.../gallery.shtml, not very outstanding.

eesteck · 24th October 2006

Originally Posted by crusher

One ISO 400 sample here: http://www.dcresource.com/reviews/ca.../gallery.shtml, not very outstanding.

hmm! no noticable noise at iso400. But not sure if those pict were touched up with noise reduction software.

If no noise issue and with 28mm wide, this cam will rock.

kayheem · 24th October 2006

No noticeable noise? There is only 1 pic taken at ISO 400 and that is the indoor church shot. Click on the link "View Full Size Image" and take a look at the centre of the pic somewhere near the bottom, around the grey area where the lady in white is sitting.

The link to the actual image is:

http://www.dcresource.com/reviews/ca...w/IMG_0014.JPG

I was hoping that the noise level would be a bit better than this at ISO 400.

Low noise levels are important to me as I like to take indoor shots without flash e.g. indoor sports

tamiya_model · 24th October 2006

above link not working...

YogiBear · 24th October 2006

Originally Posted by tamiya_model

above link not working...

Scale down version...
http://www.dcresource.com/reviews/ca...MG_0014-pp.JPG

Full-size is found in gallery...
http://www.dcresource.com/reviews/ca.../gallery.shtml

I like the Powershot S3 IS, but I also like the G7 with hotshoe. Cant decide which so am willing to wait for new models...

eesteck · 24th October 2006

Originally Posted by kayheem

No noticeable noise? There is only 1 pic taken at ISO 400 and that is the indoor church shot. Click on the link "View Full Size Image" and take a look at the centre of the pic somewhere near the bottom, around the grey area where the lady in white is sitting.

The link to the actual image is:

http://www.dcresource.com/reviews/ca...w/IMG_0014.JPG

I was hoping that the noise level would be a bit better than this at ISO 400.

Low noise levels are important to me as I like to take indoor shots without flash e.g. indoor sports

ya boy! viewed the wrong picture. tot the last 4 pictures are ISO 400. The indoor shot of the church is indeed noisy. Disappointed again. Anyone got good recomm of a compact cam with no noise issue?

bpribadi · 24th October 2006

Regarding the 10Mp noise issue, here is my thought...

We know that by reducing the resolution, we can reduce the noise as well. Let say, we can do some noise reduction on the 10Mp file, and then reduce the resolution to let say 6Mp. Then it will look like a nice 6Mp picture.

Or...

Canon can just put a low noise 6Mp CCD on G7, and the result might be just as good as the 6Mp file above (reduced from 10Mp with some noise reduction).

Which one will you choose?

Well the 6Mp save the hassle of post processing high ISO file, but for low ISO, low noise file, let say ISO 80 file, which one you will choose, the 10Mp file or the 6Mp file? You will get more detail on the 10Mp file for large printing

So I think that's Canon approach. 10Mp sensor. If you feel it noisy in high ISO, then just apply some noise reduction and reduce the resolution

Rather than to use low noise low resolution sensor. At least at the low ISO, you get more resolution with 10Mp

What do you think?

A70 · 24th October 2006

But is the image at ISO 1600 acceptable? Or do we need to do a lot of post-processing on it? My consideration for this camera is the availability of high ISO and the hotshoe for flash add-on. Add the dimensions which seems to be only a bit bigger than the A series, it's a good candidate for a travel camera.

bpribadi · 25th October 2006

Here is my try...

The picture of the cathedral, I applied some dust&scratches and despecle in PS, and then resize to 6Mp. Seems not as good as my 6Mp F11

G7 10Mp and 6Mp Comparison

But need more sample to justify.

More samples:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jomatt/...7594336984889/

Scratchy · 25th October 2006

Anywhere to get the best price and package for this camera? Thanks again.

mandom · 25th October 2006

Is the price @ Alan Photo with or without GST?

StreetShooter · 25th October 2006

Originally Posted by bpribadi

Here is my try...

The picture of the cathedral, I applied some dust&scratches and despecle in PS, and then resize to 6Mp. Seems not as good as my 6Mp F11

G7 10Mp and 6Mp Comparison

But need more sample to justify.

More samples:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jomatt/...7594336984889/

Agreed. For low noise high ISO, Fuji is still the best at the moment. Not to mention cheaper.

But have no fear. Canon will catch up soon enough!

21st October 2006	#1
bpribadi Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 253	Canon PowerShot G7 I saw G7 in Alan Photo yesterday, at SGD 880.- (without bargaining). Overall, pretty fast start up and response, smaller than the previous Gs, nice black retro look, and no lens cap Will bring my SD card, and try it out one day... I've been looking for compact with hot shoe (already have Canon flash), and good movie capability (very important for me). So far G7 is the best choice. I hate the pixel increase, I wish they stick with 6-7 Mp with better noise profile. But well, let's see how good is G7 at ISO 400 (I don't expect more than a good ISO 400). No RAW is another drawback, but I can live with it (I love RAW though ). Waiting for the reviews now For those who has tried and have sample pics, please post here Thanks!

23rd October 2006	#2
noob117 Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: west Posts: 1,175	Re: Canon PowerShot G7 hey is this the new cam wif the DIG!C III? __________________ my flickr Picasa

23rd October 2006	#3
Final_depth Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: lala land in loner street Posts: 150	Re: Canon PowerShot G7 yups.. the new canon G7 does hav the DIGIC III image prcessor

23rd October 2006	#4
aaron80 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Woodlands Posts: 2,268	Re: Canon PowerShot G7 and comes with the new face detection technology as well.. Last week when I was at Funan AP saw a lady getting this cam.. Seems its quite hot.. __________________ http://www.flickr.com/photos/aaronius80/

23rd October 2006	#5
kayheem Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 487	Re: Canon PowerShot G7 Ya...I would have preferred a cleaner pic at high ISO at 6-8MP than a noisier pic at 10MP. I do miss the flip screen of the G6 though. I did try it out at Funan. The image at ISO 800 looked a bit noisy, but I did not compare it with the 350D. If it is anything close to the 350D, it would be interesting.

23rd October 2006	#7
kayheem Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 487	Re: Canon PowerShot G7 Sorry, I did not have any CF card with me. I just tried it out on their CF card. You can pop over and try it out.

24th October 2006	#8
Scratchy New Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 13	Re: Canon PowerShot G7 Who knows where to get the best deal now for this camera now. Really wish to get 1 to try. Thanks.

24th October 2006	#9
crusher Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 274	Re: Canon PowerShot G7 One ISO 400 sample here: http://www.dcresource.com/reviews/ca.../gallery.shtml, not very outstanding.

24th October 2006	#11
kayheem Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 487	Re: Canon PowerShot G7 No noticeable noise? There is only 1 pic taken at ISO 400 and that is the indoor church shot. Click on the link "View Full Size Image" and take a look at the centre of the pic somewhere near the bottom, around the grey area where the lady in white is sitting. The link to the actual image is: http://www.dcresource.com/reviews/ca...w/IMG_0014.JPG I was hoping that the noise level would be a bit better than this at ISO 400. Low noise levels are important to me as I like to take indoor shots without flash e.g. indoor sports

24th October 2006	#12
tamiya_model Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: HOME, duh... Posts: 492	Re: Canon PowerShot G7 above link not working...

24th October 2006	#15
bpribadi Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 253	Re: Canon PowerShot G7 Regarding the 10Mp noise issue, here is my thought... We know that by reducing the resolution, we can reduce the noise as well. Let say, we can do some noise reduction on the 10Mp file, and then reduce the resolution to let say 6Mp. Then it will look like a nice 6Mp picture. Or... Canon can just put a low noise 6Mp CCD on G7, and the result might be just as good as the 6Mp file above (reduced from 10Mp with some noise reduction). Which one will you choose? Well the 6Mp save the hassle of post processing high ISO file, but for low ISO, low noise file, let say ISO 80 file, which one you will choose, the 10Mp file or the 6Mp file? You will get more detail on the 10Mp file for large printing So I think that's Canon approach. 10Mp sensor. If you feel it noisy in high ISO, then just apply some noise reduction and reduce the resolution Rather than to use low noise low resolution sensor. At least at the low ISO, you get more resolution with 10Mp What do you think?

24th October 2006	#16
A70 New Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Singapore Posts: 41	Re: Canon PowerShot G7 But is the image at ISO 1600 acceptable? Or do we need to do a lot of post-processing on it? My consideration for this camera is the availability of high ISO and the hotshoe for flash add-on. Add the dimensions which seems to be only a bit bigger than the A series, it's a good candidate for a travel camera.

25th October 2006	#17
bpribadi Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 253	Re: Canon PowerShot G7 Here is my try... The picture of the cathedral, I applied some dust&scratches and despecle in PS, and then resize to 6Mp. Seems not as good as my 6Mp F11 G7 10Mp and 6Mp Comparison But need more sample to justify. More samples: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jomatt/...7594336984889/

25th October 2006	#18
Scratchy New Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 13	Re: Canon PowerShot G7 Anywhere to get the best price and package for this camera? Thanks again.

25th October 2006	#19
mandom New Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 19	Re: Canon PowerShot G7 Is the price @ Alan Photo with or without GST?