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    This article tries to claim that this isn't so, then seeks to reassure the average reader by saying in effect, "Don't worry, this only hurts hardware enthusiasts, and who cares about them?"

    Wow, that made me feel a whole lot better!!! How about you?

    Three Scenarios

    Taking the terms of the Vista licenses and the clarifications found in the abovementioned article, this is what appears to be the situation:

    Situation #1: You are a very honest person who buys an OEM copy of Vista for your system. In the due course of events, you decide you need a new motherboard, maybe a new CPU, too. You do the deed, and behold, you can't automatically reactivate again.

    You call up Redmond, and you can do one of two things. You can be honest, or you can lie.

    If you are honest, and tell Redmond, "There's nothing wrong with the mobo, I just wanted a new one, and I'm going to sell the old one to my cousin," Redmond's going to tell you, "You're buying a new copy of Vista, Charlie."

    If you lie and tell Redmond, "My dog ate my mobo," then they'll reactivate you. Moral of the story: It pays to lie to Redmond.

    Situation #2: You are a very honest person, and you buy a retail copy of Vista. You do the same thing, and reactivation doesn't work here, either.

    You call up Redmond, and you can do one of two things. You can be honest, or you can lie.

    If you are honest, Redmond will activate you, but you've eaten your one transfer. Your honesty has earned you a downgrade from retail to OEM license.

    If you lie and tell Redmond, "My dog ate my mobo," you don't (apparently) eat your one transfer. Once again, dishonesty is better.

    Situation #3: You write for a hardware site. Your job is to test motherboards. In the past with XP, well, you "found" a copy that doesn't require activation, naturally, and that's what you used to test, because you didn't want to call Redmond more often than Bill Gates does while on the road.

    With Vista, there isn't such an activation-free beast any longer. What happens to you? God only knows. You really can't lie and tell them "my mobo broke," that gets a little stale after the tenth or twentieth try. Maybe the person in Redmond knows who you are and reactivates you; maybe that person doesn't, and won't.

    What is a hardware site supposed to do? Buy umpteen copies of Vista a year? Just what are they supposed to do?

    Yes, in all three scenarios, one could always sell the OS along with the mobo and/or hard drive, but it's none too clear what happens when the buyer tries to activate, or what his exact rights are after you've sold it.

    A Better Idea

    It is incompetent for MS or any apologists for MS to say in effect, "Spelling out the rules for people like you is just too tough for us, so we won't. Go buy another copy."

    It is certainly masochistic unethical, not to mention stupendously stupid, to essentially reward people for lying to you AND make it much easier for people pursuing legitimate activities to do so illegally rather than legally.

    It seems to me that a much, much better way to handle activation is to adapt what MS essentially is already doing for OEM copies of the OS: the motherboard is the machine, and to adapt their policies around that.
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    Default Re: Why You Shld Hate M$.

    buy a mac

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    Poor M$.

    Even Chris Pirillo, quintessential M$ fanboy, has something to say about it.

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    I loved Internet Explorer—loved it. Microsoft even sent me a T-shirt for participating in Midnight Madness with the final release of an earlier IE build some years ago when the world was largely stuck on dial-up. I loved using MSN Search. There were few decent alternatives even when Microsoft started serving pop-up advertisements with my search results. Eventually, I grew tired of these annoyances and turned my attention to Google, which, at the time, looked like an inferior product. But, Google made “search” work better than ever before. Windows Live attempts to reinvigorate Microsoft’s online brand, but few people have bothered to pay attention. Why? Because it’s too little, too late.

    Off the shelf, Windows Vista Ultimate will cost the user $399 per copy, with subsequent licenses weighing in at $359 each. Upgrade prices for Ultimate are slightly less exorbitant ($259 for the initial upgrade and $233 for additional copies). If you’re planning on upgrading your home network of five machines, you’re going to spend $1,191 for five Ultimate upgrades. Conservatively, if you’re upgrading the same network to Home Basic, you’re going to spend $460. This time? It’s too much, too late.
    I don't hate M$.. I just prefer Mac OS X and Linux. M$ makes some nice mice, though. That's about all that's nice :P

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    can only pray other OSes like Linux etc are getting better and more user friendly and driver support
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    as with all obedient singaporeans, I will do what my big brother says is right. If he say buy a new copy of vi$ta everytime I change my mobo, I will buy it and move on. This way, we can work towards globalisation and have more good years ahead!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ortega View Post
    buy a mac
    I m going to migrate all my rigs to mac

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klose View Post
    I m going to migrate all my rigs to mac
    heh. which one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by skinnylatte View Post
    heh. which one?
    Replace laptop with macbook.

    Eh then replace my multimedia rig to a g5 when i have the dough

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klose View Post
    Eh then replace my multimedia rig to a g5 when i have the dough
    you mean MacPro

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    Quote Originally Posted by ortega View Post
    you mean MacPro
    Opps

    Btw, do you think there will be any new macbook models coming out in the next 4 mths?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klose View Post
    Opps

    Btw, do you think there will be any new macbook models coming out in the next 4 mths?
    should be going core 2 duo at least... it'll be a shame if they don't!

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    Going for a Macdonald Cold Turkey Diet... damnit...
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    Hope Google come out a OS too....and free one

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    There are plenty of free ones, the support and drivers are getting more and better each day.

    Try Solaris

    OS X Leopard promises a lot, I'm waiting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wazzup View Post
    There are plenty of free ones, the support and drivers are getting more and better each day.

    Try Solaris

    OS X Leopard promises a lot, I'm waiting.
    Why wait? OS X was already great, starting from Panther. Tiger is excellent too.

    Well, for now... Ubuntu works well when I don't have OS X nearby. :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by skinnylatte View Post
    Why wait? OS X was already great, starting from Panther. Tiger is excellent too.

    Well, for now... Ubuntu works well when I don't have OS X nearby. :P
    'cos I'm running Tiger now and I'm waiting for an upgrade to Leopard which should cost half of what Vista is going to cost me?

    Solaris would be my ideal OS, only if it supported colour management and CaptureNX.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wazzup View Post
    'cos I'm running Tiger now and I'm waiting for an upgrade to Leopard which should cost half of what Vista is going to cost me?

    Solaris would be my ideal OS, only if it supported colour management and CaptureNX.
    Ah What about, a family pack for 5 computers for Leopard, will put the best desktop OS there is (arguably) on five computers, and cost less than a copy of Vista basic — with all the advanced stuff Vista Ultimate wants to charge you for — already inside?

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