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    Quote Originally Posted by Sion View Post
    Satay don't like to be grilled lah.
    sheesh, i ought to find a way to change my nick. maybe like "bjoiefw", so cannot make fun. is that possible, admin?

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    Quote Originally Posted by satay16 View Post
    nope. it's not dun understand. is that they tend to be less interested into technical stuffs, making it hard to see if they make good photographers.
    What makes for a good photograph?

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    Well, you're young so I shall be abit less acid tongued. Firstly, it's very easy to get along with ppl even like eiks: Just be yourself and if you want to engage in an intellectual debate, THINK before you post. If there is reason I don't see why you would end up in cross hairs.

    Search wikipedia, politics. I haven't googled it, but it may help you survive better.

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    Okay, why bother engage in photography if you don't even have any idea what is a good photograph?

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    don't grill how to eat? eat it raw? yucks, since when satay takes the form of sushi also?
    Go to Sendai. They got Satay Sushi Train there.

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    To Satay 16, I read what you wrote in response to my question before you deleted it.

    You answered: "a photographer who knows how to operate a camera".

    My question was what makes for a good photograph.

    If you are able to understand that, then you will know the role of technical knowledge in the making of a good photograph.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wisp View Post
    Well, you're young so I shall be abit less acid tongued. Firstly, it's very easy to get along with ppl even like eiks: Just be yourself and if you want to engage in an intellectual debate, THINK before you post. If there is reason I don't see why you would end up in cross hairs.

    Search wikipedia, politics. I haven't googled it, but it may help you survive better.
    hey what do you mean 'ppl even like eiks' don't shirk your responsibilities, you beat me hands down when it comes to sharp words

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silence Sky View Post

    Why do you say?




    Though a picture is silence, it always seems trying to tell me something.
    your signature says it all... we all know why it would be trying ... to tell u something.

    maybe if you get out of that well, you might get a wider angle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sion View Post
    Go to Sendai. They got Satay Sushi Train there.
    !!! all the way to Sendai for satay sushi train??? hey, you think everyone's a high monk like you who fly from mountain to mountain so effortlessly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by student View Post
    To Satay 16, I read what you wrote in response to my question before you deleted it.

    You answered: "a photographer who knows how to operate a camera".

    My question was what makes for a good photograph.

    If you are able to understand that, then you will know the role of technical knowledge in the making of a good photograph.
    so this is where the problem is, what is the scope of the "photographers" we are saying here? Are we talking about those whom are already photographers, or are we refering to those who have the potential to be a good photographer?

    If we take the first meaning, then i say more(not all) men are better photographers, reason being that there IS already more men photographers, both good and bad.

    If we take the second, then i can't say anything, because i can't judge someone if they did not show what they can do. It becomes all speculation.

    But with the advancement of technology, everybody can be a photographer with their handphone at hand, so.......aiyah, so confusing. maybe we should stick to the 2nd part of the statment, about females being subjects.

    btw. i deleted the first post as it wan't clear enuf. pressed the post button too harshly. sry
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    Quote Originally Posted by tan131 View Post
    Are "MEN" more visual den women? i don't think so. Are men better photographers? I don't agree..look at how much crap we produce..(myself included)
    Men who tend to fall in love through looks only mean they are shallow

    Does women crave for attention, i don't agree.
    Women like to be in front of the camera. Thats a BOLD & Dangerous statement.
    Women are in front of our camera cos we either ask them or pay them (and they agree). Models are in front of the camera cos its part of an assignment. Your female friends are in front of the camera cos they trust ur skills to produces good pics of them (note, they are interested in the picture, instead of being in front of the camera) Your other half becomes ur subject cos they want to spend time with u and indulge in ur interests together even they don't understand the nuts and bolts of photography.

    Who said one needs a SLR to take pics? If not why would one need the strength to carry one?

    Who said curves makes a picture more interesting? If so, does it mean u view women as a visual object?

    Having made such a statement n u claim innocent?

    one word.... SEXIST... period (i hope this thread get locks up, as it does not show respect to our female members...so what if u are a "MEN"..doesn't mean anything at all)

    PS: No wonder women always say that men do not listen or they do not understand.. If u are interested to know..i'm a guy too.. abit a less shallow one!
    Please, don't feel offended, I hope this little discussion could let us understand both sexes better, and we could have more respect for the opposite sex. Let's accept the fact that there are differences between the sexes, in terms of "technical specifications; hardware and software", and most importantly we must learn to respect these differences, not use these differences to put the opposite sex down. So let's not say men do not listen and women are made of water.

    Each sex has its roles to play, let me give you an example: when buying a car, usually the ladies will let the guy call the shot after she states her piece. When at jewelry shop, usually the ladies have the final say right?

    Today the haze is bad, no outing allowed by my lady, so typing this posting.

    You know why I put up this topic?
    We had a big fight recently, over which camera to buy.
    I wanted a SLR, and she wanted the slimmest PnS. She is the one who told me SLR too heavy and complicated. By the way, those are the two reasons why I wanted a SLR. Being a gentleman, I burnt my pocket, I ended up buying both DSLR and the lightest PnS.

    I shoot her with a SLR and she shoots me with PnS. Despite the entire cross shooting, we are very happy.

    Now if you say girls don't like to be in front of the camera, I will shoot you in the face.
    You know, when I say lets do some casual shoot, she will be the first one to reach for the closet and the dressing table. Me, messy hair, half naked with a boxer. She pretty like a doll.
    That is why, I say ladies are better subject, with colorful make up and all those wonderful hairdos and matching dresses. The ladies I come across will naturally pose for the camera, no need to teach or tell them one. They know how to twist here, turn there, keep this, expose that. So I will say ladies are camera best friend, not all but also not very few.


    Next, let's talk about curves. If I give you a box with four wheels, will you want to drive it?

    You know I once started a war, when I say Men are better drivers and women are even better drivers because they can drive a man up the wall. This statement is sexist, and I have refrain from making such statement.even I feel it is very true, sometimes.
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    nice topic.

    how can i miss the action?
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    How come there are some photographers letting their GFs or wives carry their camera bags, tripods and drinking water for them?
    Becasue they have to carry their GFs or Wives. No hand for the tripod ect..

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    well, as a lady i think female fotogs have their pros and cons in this field thats y i never regret entering!!! =)

    Nice topic to get ppl involve to communicate...
    =P

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    Absolutely not.

    yes you are right to say men and woman do approach photography differently.

    As a general statement men tend to be more technical, woman more passionate, focused on the subject.

    The best photographers (again in general, leaving art photography aside) are those that can do both. Period. Create technically sound pictures that are emotionally connected with the subject.

    I really love the work and concerns articulated but female photojournalists, its a personal opinion but they do have the access and genuine empathy for the subject that I have seen in few male photogs. As a guy i sometimes wish i could connect with the people i shoot in that way too.

    I can list names if you like. Don't just look at your friends and say, look at pictures, look at people's work, look a photography in terms of its history and globally too. There's loads to learn (:

    you might want to check this out
    http://www.poyi.org/63/24/third_01.php
    The photog's female and only 18 this year i believe. eh satay16? (sorry, don't mean to flame ya dude but its worth a look)

    As for women being better subjects.... err yes... but depends from person to person and what you shoot right don't tell me all female flowers make better subjects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terence View Post
    Here are a couple of female photographers I admire...

    Ami Vitale

    Natalie Behring

    I really don't think the sex of a person makes one a better photographer. There's some pretty crappy male photogs out there, just take a look in the CS gallery threads, plenty of examples that aren't too hard to find. I do however find the most male photogs have a much bigger ego than their female counterparts.
    Hello Terence:

    You are very right. There are very good female photographers out there, churning out excellent work piece. No doubt about that.

    If you have realised, I did not make any specific remark. I am not stating Men are the best photographer, my statement so far is by large (using words like "could be" "Generally"). Thereby giving us more room for discussion.

    Maybe at the end of the discussion, we come to realise that men and women are built and engineered differently, each gender has its specific tasks. So we will not make meaningless statement like, why girls do not need to serve NS, and Boys have to. You want equal treatment hor then serve NS lah.

    Guy, do you agree that it is man's duty to protect our girls and family?
    If the answer is yes, can I call you a male chauvinist for thinking so? Why not let the girls do the job?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shuee88 View Post
    well, as a lady i think female fotogs have their pros and cons in this field thats y i never regret entering!!! =)

    Nice topic to get ppl involve to communicate...
    =P
    Hahaha...

    Someone mentioned this is a fish trap, to lure out all the female fishes and trap them.

    Maybe in this discussion, we can find out, how does a female photographer really feels about photography and what are their perspective.

    Care to share your views, eg. what constitute a nice picture; what's your response to pictures of hunks dressed in G-string?

    Since you are the only identified female, may I ask you, what's get you into photography?
    Last edited by Silence Sky; 16th October 2006 at 12:43 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by l-inc View Post
    eh satay16? (sorry, don't mean to flame ya dude but its worth a look)
    WHY YOU FLAME ME? WHY YOU FLAME ME?

    ehhh.......wait, how was that flaming?



    oh well, nvm . anyway, there ARE both good photographers from both gender, but i believe when talking in terms of quantity, in that group of photographers we consider as "good", there are more men. I mean just by judging CS alone, there is already more males inside. So let's assume that if 20% of the female photographers are good and 10% of the male photographers are good, in nominal terms, there are still more men photographers that are good.

    in conclusion, it is back to my old statement:very hard to compare, it all depends on your yardstick of measurement. if we talk in percentage, it is much harder to see. and if we add "potential" to it, it goes even crazier(potential meaning those who can make good photographers but aren't interested in photography.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silence Sky View Post

    You know why I put up this topic?
    We had a big fight recently, over which camera to buy.
    I wanted a SLR, and she wanted the slimmest PnS. She is the one who told me SLR too heavy and complicated. By the way, those are the two reasons why I wanted a SLR. Being a gentleman, I burnt my pocket, I ended up buying both DSLR and the lightest PnS.

    I shoot her with a SLR and she shoots me with PnS. Despite the entire cross shooting, we are very happy.

    Now if you say girls don't like to be in front of the camera, I will shoot you in the face.
    You know, when I say lets do some casual shoot, she will be the first one to reach for the closet and the dressing table. Me, messy hair, half naked with a boxer. She pretty like a doll.
    That is why, I say ladies are better subject, with colorful make up and all those wonderful hairdos and matching dresses. The ladies I come across will naturally pose for the camera, no need to teach or tell them one. They know how to twist here, turn there, keep this, expose that. So I will say ladies are camera best friend, not all but also not very few.


    Next, let's talk about curves. If I give you a box with four wheels, will you want to drive it?

    You know I once started a war, when I say Men are better drivers and women are even better drivers because they can drive a man up the wall. This statement is sexist, and I have refrain from making such statement.even I feel it is very true, sometimes.
    Sorrie to know that u had a big fight recently. Frankly, i'm not a flamer, an activist nor someone who wants to make a name here. Jus put off by the "so call" egos of some guys and in fact and embarressed to be associated with them.

    I do not understand the fact why guys want everything to be big...big cars, big horsepower, big *oobs, big *icks and in photography, big cameras, big flash, big lens no wonder they ended up with big egos too..

    Now that shot in the face was unnecessary cos the girls i know are the exact opposite. They hate makeup and only wears them when its necessary and do not realli care abt how others see them. They also do not know how to twist here, turn there, keep this and certainly not expose. So to me, cameras are not girls best friend.

    talking about cars, let me offer u wat i think... honda accords are still boxy so is the BMW 7 series, corolla has been replaced by a boxy altis so does the new BMW 5 series, Landrover is boxy to start and boxy till now, and the design of all cars began with a box with 4 wheels. If u give me a box with four wheels and pays the coe, taxes and fuel, i will drive (i do have a licence so no worries). There are people who appreciate the classics like the VW camper van (boxy), VW golf gti MK I (also boxy, but a bloodly ride, minus the spongy brakes), old BMW 6 series (also boxy, yes the 6 series is nothing new), the list goes on...

    I guess u din learn from the past.. oh well, some things jus never change..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silence Sky View Post
    Maybe at the end of the discussion, we come to realise that men and women are built and engineered differently, each gender has its specific tasks. So we will not make meaningless statement like, why girls do not need to serve NS, and Boys have to. You want equal treatment hor then serve NS lah.

    Guy, do you agree that it is man's duty to protect our girls and family?
    If the answer is yes, can I call you a male chauvinist for thinking so? Why not let the girls do the job?
    Why does one night of passion ends up with one carrying the burden for 10 months.. ever thought of that? Lets not complain, lets keep the talk to the thread shall we..

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