2006-10-04_comments welcome

tqviet0327 · 7th October 2006

the photo is slanted, should have noticed this when shooting the photo or fixed it in post processing

composition wise, not clear what is ur main object: the cylinder building, its reflection, the background building or the reflection?

On top of my head, there are two compositions you could do:

- one is that you shift the camera to one side, up or down, so that one element becomes dominant and appears to be the object. Say, if you just take the cylinder, shift the camera to the right so that only the building is in the frame, and shift the camera up, much up, so that the building itself is the object, leave the reflection just a portion below (or much much lower, so that the reflection is the main object, leave the building just a portion). The photo then would become very clear in the intension.

- one is that you shift the camera so that the outline of the building and the border of the pond devide the photo into exact quarters. It would be very interesting then

rexlim · 7th October 2006

abstract!
Would prefer more of the reflection thou...
Nice work!

tiong78 · 9th October 2006

Originally Posted by tqviet0327

the photo is slanted, should have noticed this when shooting the photo or fixed it in post processing

composition wise, not clear what is ur main object: the cylinder building, its reflection, the background building or the reflection?

On top of my head, there are two compositions you could do:

- one is that you shift the camera to one side, up or down, so that one element becomes dominant and appears to be the object. Say, if you just take the cylinder, shift the camera to the right so that only the building is in the frame, and shift the camera up, much up, so that the building itself is the object, leave the reflection just a portion below (or much much lower, so that the reflection is the main object, leave the building just a portion). The photo then would become very clear in the intension.

- one is that you shift the camera so that the outline of the building and the border of the pond devide the photo into exact quarters. It would be very interesting then

slanted? the horizontals u mean?

the composition is the main subject.

if that is my intention, which it is not.
exact quarters are not really my cup of tea.

Stoned · 9th October 2006

I think this shot is ok, just ok. Lacks a sense of "oomph".

Chew Siow Ming · 12th October 2006

works for me, don't bother to change.

Nub-bie · 12th October 2006

Originally Posted by Stoned

I think this shot is ok, just ok. Lacks a sense of "oomph".

Agreed

tiong78 · 18th October 2006

Originally Posted by Nub-bie

Agreed

i'm past that "oomph" stage.

cannonball · 18th October 2006

hmmz...
I wonder why would you be past the "oomph" stage?

Dont we always look forward to have that extra "oomph" in each photo we shoot?

i think tqviet0327 meant that the building in the foreground (with green glass? not sure what it is) is kind of slanted alittle (clockwise about 1 degree or so)
I agree that correcting that might be good?

composition wise, nothing to fault.
but the whole picture looks flat due to lack of light and shadows, i feel.

tiong78 · 18th October 2006

when i was painting or doing my earlier architectectural works. I was searching for that Oomph factor. till later, I realise, different images requires different look and different treatment.
even quiet pics can be nice.

imagine this image with your so call strong lights and shadows. then the composition of the elements will all be changed.
There will be an introduction of diagonal elements that would emphasis more dynamism to the pic.there could be a stronger shadow on the wall, too much contrast which will spoil the composition i have now.the details inside could lost due to the stronger lights.
if I see this view on a normal sunny day, maybe i won't even take a second look at it.

You have to understand how lines guide the heart, then you will know how to bring out what you want to bring out in the image.
Maybe its not straight. but i dun really care. its the overall feel that i am more interested in.

jbma · 18th October 2006

I don' think it is slanted. Take a look at the lines on the pillar on the top right hand corner. It is ok but it lack something which I don't seem to be able to put my finger on.

cannonball · 18th October 2006

my earlier education in school is architecture related, and thus I do get excited when i see a really good shot of a building, or zoom in shot of a certain detail of a building.
I have also learnt in school, the importance relationship between lights, shadows and the architecture itself.
I have also been drawing lines daily, and hence columns and beams are in my heart as well.

I agree with you on certain points, such strong lights will burn details.
This applies to all form of photography and not only in architectural shoots.

However, no architectures are perfect..
Architectural shoots usually bring out the best of a building or even a bus-stop.

sorry mate, your composition is good...just lack the oomph (which you dont care anymore) which i still look forward to seeing.

5th October 2006	#1
tiong78 Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: serangoon nth Posts: 532	2006-10-04_comments welcome

7th October 2006	#2
tqviet0327 Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dover Vista Posts: 148	Re: 2006-10-04_comments welcome the photo is slanted, should have noticed this when shooting the photo or fixed it in post processing composition wise, not clear what is ur main object: the cylinder building, its reflection, the background building or the reflection? On top of my head, there are two compositions you could do: - one is that you shift the camera to one side, up or down, so that one element becomes dominant and appears to be the object. Say, if you just take the cylinder, shift the camera to the right so that only the building is in the frame, and shift the camera up, much up, so that the building itself is the object, leave the reflection just a portion below (or much much lower, so that the reflection is the main object, leave the building just a portion). The photo then would become very clear in the intension. - one is that you shift the camera so that the outline of the building and the border of the pond devide the photo into exact quarters. It would be very interesting then

7th October 2006	#3
rexlim Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,138	Re: 2006-10-04_comments welcome abstract! Would prefer more of the reflection thou... Nice work!

9th October 2006	#5
Stoned Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Changi Posts: 4,376	Re: 2006-10-04_comments welcome I think this shot is ok, just ok. Lacks a sense of "oomph". __________________ My Personal Folio (of random events and things)

12th October 2006	#6
Chew Siow Ming Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 556	Re: 2006-10-04_comments welcome works for me, don't bother to change.

18th October 2006	#9
cannonball Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 293	Re: 2006-10-04_comments welcome hmmz... I wonder why would you be past the "oomph" stage? Dont we always look forward to have that extra "oomph" in each photo we shoot? i think tqviet0327 meant that the building in the foreground (with green glass? not sure what it is) is kind of slanted alittle (clockwise about 1 degree or so) I agree that correcting that might be good? composition wise, nothing to fault. but the whole picture looks flat due to lack of light and shadows, i feel.

18th October 2006	#10
tiong78 Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: serangoon nth Posts: 532	Re: 2006-10-04_comments welcome when i was painting or doing my earlier architectectural works. I was searching for that Oomph factor. till later, I realise, different images requires different look and different treatment. even quiet pics can be nice. imagine this image with your so call strong lights and shadows. then the composition of the elements will all be changed. There will be an introduction of diagonal elements that would emphasis more dynamism to the pic.there could be a stronger shadow on the wall, too much contrast which will spoil the composition i have now.the details inside could lost due to the stronger lights. if I see this view on a normal sunny day, maybe i won't even take a second look at it. You have to understand how lines guide the heart, then you will know how to bring out what you want to bring out in the image. Maybe its not straight. but i dun really care. its the overall feel that i am more interested in.

18th October 2006	#11
jbma Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Tampines Posts: 3,315	Re: 2006-10-04_comments welcome I don' think it is slanted. Take a look at the lines on the pillar on the top right hand corner. It is ok but it lack something which I don't seem to be able to put my finger on. Last edited by jbma; 18th October 2006 at 07:44 PM.

18th October 2006	#12
cannonball Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 293	Re: 2006-10-04_comments welcome my earlier education in school is architecture related, and thus I do get excited when i see a really good shot of a building, or zoom in shot of a certain detail of a building. I have also learnt in school, the importance relationship between lights, shadows and the architecture itself. I have also been drawing lines daily, and hence columns and beams are in my heart as well. I agree with you on certain points, such strong lights will burn details. This applies to all form of photography and not only in architectural shoots. However, no architectures are perfect.. Architectural shoots usually bring out the best of a building or even a bus-stop. sorry mate, your composition is good...just lack the oomph (which you dont care anymore) which i still look forward to seeing.