I did consider the 20D or the 30D but becos of 2 reasons that make me go for the 1Dmk2 instead. The 8.5fps for action (I misses a lot of good shot due to slow speed like birds flying in/out of their nest..opps) and the min f8 AF so that i can get slower and less expensive lense if my 500mm f4 dont materialise. I have a friend offering his under utilised 1dmk2 body in almost mint condition. BTW, how to check shutter count on the 1dmk2? According to him he only shoot 5 events with it so that about 5k shutter max. I was with hie for 2 event and we shot only ard 300 photos each. He is going for FF cos he is not a birder.
What i think most of us would mention / stress is that - at the end of the day - a body is just a body - its still a tool. Its how you use it and whether you have the technique, and like what CYRN mentioned - shutter discipline. No use having 8.5fps cocking up shuttercount when not even 1 shot is sharp and your AF hunts like mad which cannot keep up with the shutter also. Coming from the xxxD series, i know the feeling of looking through a 5D / 1 series VF. Its a breath of fresh air.
I've been living with a 300D for 2 years shooting drifts recently and pushing the limits of my camera and myself. (I even killed the shutter trigger in the process) ... but at the end of the day, i see the photos i really want and i'm happy. Its how you want to live with your current body and not be "peer pressured" into buying something you'll end up coughing a whole lot of blood for.
500 is no joke seriously. I've had kopi with "uncle" garion before... was telling him the pros and cons ... especially transporting the bugger - Wakeboard last weekend already i witnessed how an nice european chap with a nikon 500 F4 lug his gear about. .. mind you he travelled by bus and mrt, the bag was easily 3/4 his size...
If its a mint set with a nice price, then get it. Lug a laptop along with the cancount software to check the shuttercount of the camera before confirming the purchase.
OK for the shutter disipline.. I could manage that with almost still subjects like birds perching on branches etc. But when it comes to flights and more difficult shots like landing and taking off, its so fast paced that its either you are dammm lucky to get the perfect 1 shot 1 kill photo or you will never have the chance again. I tried shooting a 3fps on my 350d, Bird leaving the nest but only got 1 shot out of 3 with the bird visible. and the damm wing is not in a good pose. I waited for the next hour and tried and tried until i gave up. each time either the bird is halfway out or total miss. Maybe i still dont have the skill to shoot this special shots but i belief the fast continuous shoot will give me more chance of landing a good shot.
Know what you mean, garion was also telling me this "critical" moment kind of thing which calls for this feature. (but then again i'm wondering why he's beginning to love the 20D ) Birding is simply not easy - really need alot of patience and wasted trips.
Think you should know what to get already since you've been offered. A good offer is hard to come by ... and I got it ... Good luck with yours...
i think you have already made up your mind and just want us to confirm your decision.
"Get the body first, you can still use it to shoot other stuff while saving for the 500mm"
i think the above is what you are looking for?
The shot above is proof that glass matters and not body.
As dEthANGeL had said, camera is just a tool. Again, I stress this pt., with the right pair of hands and good eye, any camera can give great results. Its all about working with what you have, and maximizing it to the best of your abilities. The crucial part is still the lens though. Coz with the 100-400 IS, your 1DMk2 may not have enough reach, and you put a TC on that lens would result in slower AF and lousy IQ. Perhaps you can consider selling your 100-400 IS for a 400mm f5.6L to use for the time being before getting your 500mm. Pretty sharp and works well with 1.4x TC. Sonix is using this combo and he has great results using it.
There is a software called CanCount that can extract shutter count from EXIF info of files taken with the 1 series body. PM me for more info.
that is a stunning shot, with a sigmonster @ 1/2s, i am truly impressed
heh.. he never post his tripod set up...
skali got some super rig..
See the little pix in my profile?
The seagull was taken using a 350D, single shot. Point is one doen't need a top end camera is to get good shots.
Last edited by creampuff; 4th October 2006 at 01:17 PM.