Tasmania is a fantastic place if you're a landscape type of guy - bring a tripod.
I made a short photo series (ironically an average of a photo a day) in this thread
Thanks all. Will look through your photos and sites tonight...connection at the office is super slow...
For a good guide, would the Lonely Planet or Rough Guide be better?
Gymrat....maybe you would like to list out some specific questions and we can all try to help...but R32 said one very important thing....that is NOT TO RUSH...really regretted trying to squeeze everything in no time to really take a step back and take in each scenery...
If you have 10 days I would suggest taking it slow along the GOR...places like the 12 apostles are areas where u just wanna sit down or lean against the railing and just store and marvel at the sight for like 3 ,4 hours and take it in...instead we had like 1 hr to try and capture every scene there and not much time to really 'feel' the place.
Maybe u can allocate 3 days 2 nights to GOR as there are many off the beaten track palces along the way too...
As for accomodation...I stayed at Cockleshell Apartments at apollo bay, the town itself...if its not winter u can get yourself down to the fisherman's wharf (i think thats what its called) and see all the boats....the mariner's lookout is a DEFINITE MUST GO...you can try the Dolphin Apartments at Apollo Bay too....newly built i think...for warrnambool, I stayed at Ladybay apartments...newly developed also and still building and a very new 3 storey apartment...for melbourne city itself I stayed at Melbourne short stay apartments (sentinel towers)...the guy at the conceirge was really friendly and helpful...we were lucky we got it at a discounted rate online...
well...too much info to share...if u need anything I m sure there are many other old birds here who are very familiar with the place.
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Oh forget to say...in Melbourne city itself...the tramlines really make driving difficult for frist timers there...my brother drove onto the other lane into incoming traffic !! hahaha...but that was the first morning...after that he was quite familarised and I m impressed with his driving...wa sometimes trips really shwo off the good stuff in your family haha...but erally u can take the trams i think....and the drivers in melbourne city are really quite hiong...expect middle fingers ...but of cos I give my fair share back haha..
Both GOR and Grampians deserve more time on their own. 2 days for GOR is really too packed! You'll be fatigued and stressed from the driving.
Give you an idea of where to go and the days I spent there:
"...not taking what one doesn't desire is the hardest thing in the world" - Albert Camus
Lovely pictures centurion, thanks for sharing.
After considering the amount of time we have, we may not have enough time to do Tassie after all, as it would not be worthwhile to just spend a couple of days there once we factor all the things we wanna do in Victoria
Anyway, we'll have to re-factor in some of the trip plans once I've obtained the guide books tomorrow. Cheers!
well, have been living along La Trobe street and been driving morning, noon , nite, mid-nite in and out of city to class, etc, for 2 yrs, i haven meet with pple like this...
but yes, careful abt the RIGHT-HOOK turn... but u get the hang of it after a few times..
Stress Man @ work... :bigeyes:
But I would agree with Benign, really. Wife or not, the truest and most unique experience you can get from Australia can only be gotten when you involve yourself in what you can't get in Singapore. While the Chinese food in Melbourne is quite good and plentiful, please don't restrict yourself to an Asian diet throughout the holiday. Australia is also known to make some of the world's best Italian food.
And seriously, what is the shame in walking into a strip club and adult bookstore? We all know what we have on our bodies. Australia is shameless about it. Singapore is shameful about it.
Personally, I dun think Singaporeans is shameful abt their bodies. But cultural differences and the way we expressed ourselves. I used to have problem taking shower after sports in school or club. It takes time..........
After all, family holiday is alot different than Bachelor's days.
Gymrat, dun miss the Greek's soulavki or Vietnamese pork chop with broken rice, beef/chicken noodle. Yes, try the local pizzas...coz they are different in doughs and taste. Wat else The good old fish and chips and humble meat pies lor. Have fun, that's what holiday is all about.
Where to find the tasty stuffs I mentioned?
Soulavki - The one I like is in Russell St, Melbourne. Just a min walk from Chinatown once u reach Russell St
Pork Chop broken rice? Footscray lor. Sorry, I forgot the address.
Italian food, u got to go to Little Italy - Lygon Street.
Best cuppaccino? Pelligrini. That joint has been there for ages. http://www.miettas.com.au/chefs/chefs_96-00/pellis.html
it's been awhile.. anyway, follow this link where i am documenting my stay here in Melbourne.
If you need any more info of where the pictures were taken, let me know and i will try my best to help.
Have fun travelling!
"High Wired, Dream Sired"
Currently working in Melbourne. Agree that 10 days is a little short. End October is nice as the weather's not too hot yet. Don't think you should do Tasmania as you'll need a week for that. Check the 'Spirit of Tasmania' website for sailing times and charges. There are 2 sailings daily: 9am to 7pm, 9pm to 7am. You have to pay A$69 for the car one-way and about A$100pp for a sit or room one-way. Flying will set you back A$145pp one-way. So stay in Tassie longer to make it worthwhile.
Lots of Wine festivals and shed-fests around this time, all over Yarra Valley, Heathcote etc. Been to a couple over the weekend and must admit that the individual ones are not as exciting as it seems and definitely not worth the drive. Look for the bigger festivals. Watch your limit as they clamp down hard on drink-driving. End Oct will see a wild-flower festival in the Grampians. GOR is worth 2-3days. As mentioned, Apollo Bay is nice, so is Lorne. Look at the Stayz website for accomodation. As it's not school holiday season, there'll be plenty of rooms. Some of my Aussie colleagues just walk in. Mornington Peninsula's OK as well. BTW, all of them have on-line pdf brochures on their website. Don't drive too much as it's pretty tiring.
Don't forget to bring wifey shopping, unless she's a photo buff as well. Bridge Rd is great for that. You'll need a day there at least. With a car, you can drive to the DFO (Direct Factory Outlets) in Essendon and Moorabbin, or Brandsmart in Nunawading (all within half-hour drive from CBD). Petrol's cheapest Tuesday afternoon and Wednesday morning. Skip Chinese food, unless absolutely required. Although I must say the Dim Sum at Shark's Fin Inn (Chinatown) is excellent. Italian food's great in Carlton, must try Brunetti's confectionery and Il Gambero. Avoid those with table decorations like Pizza Hut. And don't forget Vietnamese food in Richmond. Pho Hung for pho and Thy Thy 1 for others.
Hope this helps.
Thanks so much for all the helpful opinions and suggestion! Will look through all suggestions as we continue planning our trip!
If you think of it, most of us Asians were brought up and taught to feel shame about our naked bodies. Hence, I used the adjective "shameful". If you observe how the the Aussies / westerners are raised, they were not grilled to feel shame about their naked bodies, hence I used the word "shameless". Chances are, this would only be clear to anyone if they hang out enough with the liberal Aussies but even if no, it's evident everywhere in Australia.
Examples: Men's striptease clubs, topless sunbathing on public beaches, and very recently, a public nude photo shoot done in Melbourne's Chinatown by a Asian guy of Aussie models.
My personal experience includes Aussie models who stripped naked to change in front of me, and another expressing her disappointment to a studio manager that I didn't ask her to go topless (she wanted to). Two years ago, an Aussie model proposed doing a lingerie shoot in the city in public (and that scared me shitless). Totally shameless but I'm not complaining.
My underlying message is to experience Melbourne/Australia for what she has that Singapore doesn't have, regardless of a holiday or bachelor days. Of course, such an itinerary is unsuitable for children but what's the problem with adults? Moreover, entry into a men's strip club is not restricted to men only. I have seen women patrons inside although very few. (Maybe the women want to learn the moves of those semi-naked dancers?)
PS: I feel no shame (shameless) in admitting that I have been into a men's club because I consider it as a cultural experience. In fact, it was an Aussie mate who encouraged me to go have a look.