Hi everyone, just to let everyone catch up on my friendly debate with wisp on a particular thread which I am not going to name: whether the word creampie truly exists and its very meaning is what they depict in the sex industry.
My stand is: the word does not exist, and since it does not exist, logically it cannot possibly mean anything.
As for wisp’s stand, I shall leave it to your own interpretation because it is not right for me to attempt to skew his argument in my favor.
To start, from where we left off….
I am trying to be profound because I am trying to carry out an intelligent debate with valid support evidence? Then what am I suppose to call your argument? Lackluster?Originally Posted by Wisp
Why so? You may ask. Here is the reason.
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Yes, anyone can alter and edit the information on wikipedia without even having to register an account with them. Infact, I can probably go into wikipedia and delete the whole entry and make you look like a fool. (at the risk of being banned from wikipedia of course! ) But like I stated above, we are having an intelligent debate, and i am sure you will agree we should stick to a less underhanded approach.
Now everyone please ask yourself, can this source of information be reliable? Is it convincing? Especially when even your 10 yr old nephew can start typing gibberish into that entry?
And you are claiming that I am trying to worm my way out? How so? By providing valid support evidences from reputable websites? For those of you who may like to see them, here they are:
Oxford University Press: http://www.oup.com/oald-bin/web_getald7index1a.pl
It generated the next closest result, which is cramp. Creampie is definitely not in there.
Nil. Nothing. Zilch.
Oh yeah, anyone please feel free to try and edit those websites? Wait, you mean you can’t? I wonder why.
Type into Google and read the results you say? I did, and oops, some misspelling in there!
Oh my, I accidentally typed in “jkdjfkd” and hey, look at what I found! 3 pages full of results. But since it is ok that we do not discern and double check what is correct, I learn a new word today! And it is jkdjfkd.
Same train of thoughts, but how absurd one is.
Wonder why you can’t find many resources to support your argument? Because it is a word coined by the sex industry to sell their products to us and that “word” pretty much stayed inside this niche network. They try to drill it into our head, wanting us to believe it means what they want us to believe it means, for the purpose of selling their products to us. But the word does not exist; neither does its artificial meaning.
To give you a different perspective, do you know that the word “sugar” is actually slang for the drug LSD?
And do you know that the word “weed” can also mean marijuana?
“What atrocity! There are actually threads in clubsnap that contain these words in their titles! My! What is going to happen to my children with clubsnap peddling drugs to them!”
So, being a responsible forum member, I drop a message in their thread.
Sorry to say..but do you know what sugar/weed actually means!?
*note: Look under drug slang*
Hmmm, sounds totally plausible. So is anyone going on a witchhunt for these threads? I mean, if people can get offended by words which are not registered in the dictionary even as a slang, informal or colloquial English, I am sure people are definitely offended by words that are actually recognized and registered in the dictionary as slang and informal English! Wait, no witchhunt? Damn, why the double-standard? Is it ok to peddle drugs but not ok to sell sex? Bless me! What has the world come to?
If ever I am face with the day that my little girl comes to me asking me what does the word “creampie” actually means, I am faced with 2 options:
a) I can tell her “Dear, the word does not exist, and reasonably there is no meaning to it”.
b) Or I can tell her “Dear, it means <<insert whatever sexual connotation the “word” is associated with here>> and it is so because the porn websites say so”.
I know I have the courage to pick option (a). Do you?
I am taught proper English by my English teacher holding a dictionary, not while he was surfing on porn websites. Whatever abomination of an English word some dirty old man - one greasy hand counting wads of money, the other randomly mixing and matching words in the dictionary – has coined in the sex industry, please do us all a favor and keep it there. Your decision to proliferate and defend a wrong notion only leads to a sad case of the blind leading the blind, with more and more being misguided.
You did no such thing, and please do not claim you did. From your post count, I am going to assume that you know how forums function, and by posting your message in his thread, you are fully aware that everyone, even non-registered members, can see your post. I don’t think there is anything private to that. If you want to be real private, it is at the top right corner of your browser and it says Private Messages. The more appropriate analogy would be shouting across the hall to your friend that his jeans were unzipped. But for the benefit of the doubt, I am just going to assume you used the wrong analogy.Originally Posted by Wisp
Thank you Wisp for your input. I am looking forward to hearing from you to correct any misconception that I may have, and of course, keeping it civilized at the same time.
And for my friend Reliance:
Frankly, I planned to leave you out of this interesting debate. But since you posted something that arouses my interest, I am extending my sincere invitation for you to join in. Now I am going to assume that you are an adult, and that you are capable of formulating coherent thoughts, then may I ask: why are some of us ignorant?Originally Posted by Reliance
Pretty much raising the same ambiguity as in the example you have raised:
Poor Zoe, because she did not specify what exactly that she swallows, she is undersieged by everyone. To prevent you from suffering from the same predicament as poor Zoe, I am encouraging you to speak up. Who are these ignorant people? And why or how are they ignorant? Randomly raising a point without supporting your cause is as good as not saying anything.Originally Posted by Reliance
Wait, are you referring to me? Oh my, ring the alarm everyone! This is clearly a case of the pot calling the kettle black!
I have laid out cold hard facts on the table top, and what do you have to show for it? Name calling.
How nice, I wonder who is the ignorant one now?
To conclude, why am I even doing this? Because I advocate freedom. You are entitled to your opinion, I am entitled to mine. I don’t impose mine on you; you don’t impose yours on me. When you jump on the bandwagon to crucify others for your belief that you cannot even validate and lacking the commonsense to question yourself, I jump on my bandwagon to crucify you. If you learn tolerance, no one is jumping on any bandwagons. Someone has already kindly pointed out that “creampie” can potentially offend; by beating on a dead horse is purely an act of adding more fuel to the fire.
If all of you enjoy standing by watching others being strong armed into submitting to other people demands – demands based on false truth – through means of stirring up emotions among the general public, then go ahead and burn them on the stake. The only thing I can do is pray that the same fate does not befall upon you.
If you continue to find a need to perpetuate your idea of what creampie is, I can’t stop you, but don’t overstep your line.