Some JBP shots

ckiang · 17th January 2003

Hi,

Some shots from a JBP trip with jed.

Cropped from original. 400mm f/2.8 + 2x TC

Cropped from original. 80-200mm f/2.8 + 2x TC

And the master at work:

80-200mm f/2.8 + 2x TC

Film used : Provia 400F. All shots wide open.

Regards
CK

ckiang · 17th January 2003

Can someone ID the 2nd bird? Thanks.

Regards
CK

ninelives · 17th January 2003

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Originally posted by ckiang
Can someone ID the 2nd bird? Thanks.

Regards
CK

1: go bp no jio :-(

2: why 200mm so long?

3: a kind of heron.

ckiang · 17th January 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by ninelives

1: go bp no jio :-(

2: why 200mm so long?

3: a kind of heron.

haha, last min decision lar. It's 200mm + 2x TC. So 400mm. Then cropped somemore.....

Regards
CK

Edmund · 17th January 2003

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Originally posted by ckiang
Can someone ID the 2nd bird? Thanks.

Regards
CK

Its a Grey Heron.

tomshen · 17th January 2003

Jed was using monopod? Like shooting soccer game?

ckiang · 17th January 2003

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Originally posted by Edmund
Its a Grey Heron.

Thanks!

Quote:

Originally posted by tomshen
Jed was using monopod? Like shooting soccer game?

Yup. How to hand hold a 4.4kg 400mm f/2.8 lens?

No other comments on the pics? 1st time using lenses > 200mm. Come come, don't be shy.

Regards
CK

Edmund · 17th January 2003

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Originally posted by ckiang

Thanks!

Yup. How to hand hold a 4.4kg 400mm f/2.8 lens?

No other comments on the pics? 1st time using lenses > 200mm. Come come, don't be shy.

Regards
CK

Pic 1:
Would suggest that you get hold of a flash extender and do some fill in. That way you can get a more balanced overall exposure.

Pic 2:
Irritating vegetation in the foreground. Right side in the background (just to the right of the crown of the heron) also messes up the photo. Its a pity cos I really liked the waterfall as the backdrop.

Pic 3:
Wat a weird looking bird spouting a really long black beak... haven't seen this species before... oh wait!! Thats Jed isn't it??

ckiang · 17th January 2003

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Originally posted by Edmund
Pic 1:
Would suggest that you get hold of a flash extender and do some fill in. That way you can get a more balanced overall exposure.

Pic 2:
Irritating vegetation in the foreground. Right side in the background (just to the right of the crown of the heron) also messes up the photo. Its a pity cos I really liked the waterfall as the backdrop.

Pic 3:
Wat a weird looking bird spouting a really long black beak... haven't seen this species before... oh wait!! Thats Jed isn't it??

Thanks. A flash extender can reach THAT far?? It's the equivalent of > 800mm for the first shot, including the cropping! It's high up in the trees around the flamingo area.

Yeah, pity about the cluttered foreground.

Jed possibly has a better shot of it (he alerted me to it actually, thanks jed!)

Regards
CK

denizenx · 17th January 2003

2nd pic oversharpened leh... all the hallelujah come out liao..
3rd is a rhino hornbill is it?

I think 2nd pic is ok but the grass is too high or too low. high gives a stalker feel, low for a documentary shot. here it tickles the bird.

I think the 1st shot not very effective becos of the harsh sun. the leaves attract more attention then the bird, which is blending into the sky due to its brightness and tone.

ckiang · 17th January 2003

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Originally posted by denizenx
2nd pic oversharpened leh... all the hallelujah come out liao..
3rd is a rhino hornbill is it?

I think 2nd pic is ok but the grass is too high or too low. high gives a stalker feel, low for a documentary shot. here it tickles the bird.

I think the 1st shot not very effective becos of the harsh sun. the leaves attract more attention then the bird, which is blending into the sky due to its brightness and tone.

Ah, you noticed it. Yeah, 2nd pic is a bit oversharpened.

Want the waterfall background, but cannot do anything to the foreground leaves. If I move to the right, I get more leaves, move to the left, no waterfall.

Yeah, how come never thought of shooting lower?

Looks like bird photography is not for me. heh.

Regards
CK

denizenx · 17th January 2003

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Originally posted by ckiang

Ah, you noticed it. Yeah, 2nd pic is a bit oversharpened. Want the waterfall background, but cannot do anything to the foreground leaves. If I move to the right, I get more leaves, move to the left, no waterfall. Yeah, how come never thought of shooting lower?

Looks like bird photography is not for me. heh.

Regards
CK

aiyah where got such thing one... a shot where everything is perfect is possible only if u're shooting studio, or if u shoot a lot (aka teppanyaki master

)...

ckiang · 17th January 2003

2 more from the bird photography newbie.

400mm f/2.8 @ f/2.8, cropped

AFS80-200 f/2.8 + 2x TC, cropped

More comments please.

Thanks to jed for letting me use his lenses.

Regards
CK

denizenx · 17th January 2003

how come the heron so small at 400mm? hehe... but it's nice bokeh and everything...
although colour cast or colour bleach due to extreme sun... but that's postprocessing prob... I usually keep some yellow in strong sun, because it's an effect in a way... and keeps colours somewhat richer... macam warm filter haha... WB shd not be religious imho...

shot in shade is it the 2nd one? ok but background blend in too much with bird... 2nd bird is nice compo but the background unforgiving a bit ugly...

I know I complain a lot

.. but I saw the ostriches with hair light from backlit sun haha... VERY nice... too bad didn't bring camera with me then (kena scolded by fren too)..

ckiang · 17th January 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by denizenx
how come the heron so small at 400mm? hehe... but it's nice bokeh and everything...
although colour cast or colour bleach due to extreme sun... but that's postprocessing prob... I usually keep some yellow in strong sun, because it's an effect in a way... and keeps colours somewhat richer... macam warm filter haha... WB shd not be religious imho...

shot in shade is it the 2nd one? ok but background blend in too much with bird... 2nd bird is nice compo but the background unforgiving a bit ugly...

I know I complain a lot .. but I saw the ostriches with hair light from backlit sun haha... VERY nice... too bad didn't bring camera with me then (kena scolded by fren too)..

Actually they are all overcast. 2nd one is really in the shade. Doesn't help that Provia 400F has a slightly blue cast. But I found PS7 AutoColours gives me a "warming filter" effect, so I left it like that - nice and warm.

Those birds are bloody small. 400mm still need to crop.

2nd one yeah, poor bg. But I like the way the bg bird echo the fg bird.....

Regards
CK

denizenx · 17th January 2003

hehe yeah the red beak... when I was there yesterday it went galloping around the site like crazy... funny to watch but sad to later realise it was trying to take off with one wing...

yeah there's slight cyan tinge..

thought was over correction of sun.. maybe can yellowify the bg using hue/sat selective palette..
heh I always prefer lime green... lively

denizenx · 17th January 2003

heh I do have one grassed heron that's not too perfect either... http://www.pbase.com/image/8613719
too much DOF to blur the foregrass I think..

and one of my fave shots of a lecherous night heron...
http://www.pbase.com/image/8613725

yeah hehe my shots also not very zai.. not willing to teppanyaki with film too...

17th January 2003	#1
ckiang Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Singapore Posts: 6,597	Some JBP shots Hi, Some shots from a JBP trip with jed. Cropped from original. 400mm f/2.8 + 2x TC Cropped from original. 80-200mm f/2.8 + 2x TC And the master at work: 80-200mm f/2.8 + 2x TC Film used : Provia 400F. All shots wide open. Regards CK

17th January 2003	#6
tomshen Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 3,719	Jed was using monopod? Like shooting soccer game? __________________ Visit http://www.tomshenstudio.com

17th January 2003	#10
denizenx Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: L2TPYSG Posts: 4,514	2nd pic oversharpened leh... all the hallelujah come out liao.. 3rd is a rhino hornbill is it? I think 2nd pic is ok but the grass is too high or too low. high gives a stalker feel, low for a documentary shot. here it tickles the bird. I think the 1st shot not very effective becos of the harsh sun. the leaves attract more attention then the bird, which is blending into the sky due to its brightness and tone. __________________ "I'm... dreaming... of a wide... angle~ Just like the ones I used to know~"

17th January 2003	#14
denizenx Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: L2TPYSG Posts: 4,514	how come the heron so small at 400mm? hehe... but it's nice bokeh and everything... although colour cast or colour bleach due to extreme sun... but that's postprocessing prob... I usually keep some yellow in strong sun, because it's an effect in a way... and keeps colours somewhat richer... macam warm filter haha... WB shd not be religious imho... shot in shade is it the 2nd one? ok but background blend in too much with bird... 2nd bird is nice compo but the background unforgiving a bit ugly... I know I complain a lot .. but I saw the ostriches with hair light from backlit sun haha... VERY nice... too bad didn't bring camera with me then (kena scolded by fren too).. __________________ "I'm... dreaming... of a wide... angle~ Just like the ones I used to know~"

17th January 2003	#16
denizenx Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: L2TPYSG Posts: 4,514	hehe yeah the red beak... when I was there yesterday it went galloping around the site like crazy... funny to watch but sad to later realise it was trying to take off with one wing... yeah there's slight cyan tinge.. thought was over correction of sun.. maybe can yellowify the bg using hue/sat selective palette.. heh I always prefer lime green... lively __________________ "I'm... dreaming... of a wide... angle~ Just like the ones I used to know~"