but if you must...personally I would go D80....there's a review somewhere....hmmm....ok..here u go..hope this will give u a better idea..
Nikon D80 vs Canon 400D
400d no spot metering..unless your exp compensation feel very gd else u get headache when it comes to a brightly lit backdrop and dark subject....
and if u play with lightings...D80 gives wireless commander mode but flash recycle time is slower than 400D
but when it comes to pic quality wise...canon is better known for its pic sharpness.
now its yr choice go test...if yr hand big..u may not like the feel of 400D
see which cam give u a better feel..u are the one holding the cam, so u must feel comfortable taking photos with the camera.
400D is more suitable for ladies as it is small, better grip for them.
i'm a sucker for smaller cams...so i got the 400d.
you can buy better gear but you can't buy a better eye
NSman? I suggest you buy a used Canon 350D or Nikon D50/70 to save money. I have seen used Canon 350D going for as cheap as $799 at the 2nd hand shop next to Cathay Photo at Peninsular, you might wanna check it out, great value.
IMO, the d80 is in every way a better cam than the 400D except for the noise control, unless you have very small hands. I do not encounter much dust problem on my 20D sensor so I guess the 400D dust reduction system may not be that crucial.
However, there is more to the equation as you are about to commit to a system, so you need to think ahead. Already some people are opting for the sony alpha and the pentax syatem as they both have the in-camera stabilization control of which the 2 camera giants are reluctant to adopt due to their IS/VR lens. Of course you hope that competition will eventully force them to incorporate similar strategy as they already have the technology in place.
So I guess I did not provide you with any solution but more problem... Anyway, you should try enjoy the thought process also as it is part and puzzle of this hobby.
Have try out 400D too small, D80 feel solid but made in thailand, so finally go for 30D.
No offend, I did encounter problem with some products that why I don't dare to try it anymore. Sorry if I did offend anyone.
Anyway Some of my friends are using the D60, 70s and the 80 and the picture result is good and so far didn't heard any problem from them.
Nikon D50 u mean... there's no D60...
Canon D30 and D60 have.
wow - that's quite a load of comprehensive replies. thanks so much!
i'm more geared toward getting a d80 because i like the feel. but is it really worth an extra $400 or so more?
or is the price difference largely due to the larger kit lens?
what's the rrp for D80?
Anyway, I insist looking into the entire Canon and Nikon system (Lenses/Flash) before buying.
This would greatly consider options should you intent to upgrade in future.
The d80 kit lens is way better than the 400d kit lens. the 400d kit lens is the same lousy 18-55mm lens as the 350d. You can see how much the lens is worth in the resale market, about $40-50 mebbe?
The d80 kit lens 18-135 has a much better range and image quality. this lens will last you for some time before you buy your second lens. it is a good walk-around lens if you don't need a large aperture. the resale market of the lens is about $300 so you know the quality.
for photographic equipment, its price = quality.