602z

[Zplus]

Hi Fuji users,
I am thinking of upgrading to the Fuji 602z to cover events where i need fast shutter, external flash and zoom.
eg, company dnd, weddings, sports etc.

Wondering of the 602 is good choice to buy now. It seems a little dated. Anyone has a clue if a "603" will be here soon???

Will be deciding in 3 months time...

[pker88]

me too looking for a 602z or future 603??
or else wat else brands can i look for around 1K price range?
canon G3? Olym dunno wat model lor
SOny too exp the media

yo zplus u also looking for a upgrades
lets chat when we meet
i also looking to upgrade but not now lor
still out of work


but look first in mind
now is G3 or 602z in my mind now
since both price is close

[Zplus]

Hahah! I have the same thing in mind. Either G3 or 602z.
Only thing holding me back its that its effectively a 3.3megapix.
Even though its extrapolated to 6.

Will really find the 6x zoom useful and also the fast shutter.
Quite tough to capture candid moments when the digicam is too slow.


OK see you there at the birthday thing. I am sure there will be lots of G3s and 602s to check out.

[fruitybix]

Quote: Originally posted by Zplus Hahah! I have the same thing in mind. Either G3 or 602z. Only thing holding me back its that its effectively a 3.3megapix. Even though its extrapolated to 6. Will really find the 6x zoom useful and also the fast shutter. Quite tough to capture candid moments when the digicam is too slow. OK see you there at the birthday thing. I am sure there will be lots of G3s and 602s to check out.

For weddings (fast AF and low shutter release lag and fast write speeds), and at 1K price range, the best choice seems to be the 602Z, but you will definitely be needing an external flash plus extra batteries and cards. So those accessories will cost you about 200-300. So factor that in as well.

By the way, there is an upgrade to the 602z. It is the 602Z Pro, and is only available overseas (US and Europe). i will think that the next update will not be so soon.

You will not go wrong with a 602Z at a wedding. Unless of course you get a DSLR..

[Zplus]

Thanks fruitybix.
I see you are a 602z user. Any gallery for me to visit to check out the output.

Also is the external flash auto or do I have to preset everything. This will be the 1st time I am using external flash if I get the 602 and flash.

[azone]

Quote: Originally posted by Zplus Thanks fruitybix. I see you are a 602z user. Any gallery for me to visit to check out the output. Also is the external flash auto or do I have to preset everything. This will be the 1st time I am using external flash if I get the 602 and flash.

It depends on what type of external flash you're getting. You can only use either Auto or Manual modes on the flash. For Auto modes, you just need to set the same aperture and iso settings on both the cam and the flash, and leave the flash tp do the rest. For Manual modes, you just have to set the power output level on the flash (1/2, 1/4, 1/16 power, etc) and it will fire at the specified intensity.

[fruitybix]

Quote: Originally posted by Zplus Thanks fruitybix. I see you are a 602z user. Any gallery for me to visit to check out the output. Also is the external flash auto or do I have to preset everything. This will be the 1st time I am using external flash if I get the 602 and flash.

Haha!!

I got the 602Z about 2 months ago, and have recently bought webspace on clubsnap. will inform you once i uploaded the pictures. So far only have uploaded some pictures of my old Oly 3000. Have not really taken the cam for serious shoot yet, planning something this weekend...arrgh

As for the external flash, you will have to work it manually. The cam must be in Manual mode (or P/S/A). Well, so far, i have just set the cam to M, and then fire away, have not really checked for this and that on the Metz flash. Pictures turn out good, but you will need to set the white balance before anything else, as the external flash will make your pictures seem different (yellow-orange cast).

[mpenza]

For most situations, it's easier for the camera to be in manual mode. As for the flash, you usually use "automatic" mode whereby the flash sensor will cut off the flash when the exposure is sufficient.

For samples with external flash, you could check out some of my galleries....

[chenwei]

Quote: Originally posted by Zplus Thanks fruitybix. I see you are a 602z user. Any gallery for me to visit to check out the output. Also is the external flash auto or do I have to preset everything. This will be the 1st time I am using external flash if I get the 602 and flash.

there r lots of 602 users here, azone, wolfgang, fruitybix, mpenza, me, etc etc etc.... if u r looking for sample pic just surf around our gallery.

usually Auto will work perfect for 602, on certain condition u may need to compensate 1/3 stop (if u r using SB24). it all depends on what external flash u use.

[Zplus]

Thanks Chenwei for the comments.

Met with a 602z user at cs birthday party and he commmented that indoor shots under yellow lighting conditions, it still cannot make it. Ur.... was wondering how's the performance under say... wedding dinners or dnds where the people are all moving about and the lighting is low??

Saw kindred using his G3 and 420EX flash at the birthday thing and it seems to be able to capture movement quite easily. And the flash is auto.

[mpenza]

you could sync up to 1/1000s with an external flash on the 602Z. there's no problem freezing motion difficulty is the focussing which could be bad when the contrast is low. not too sure how the G3 cope if the subject is out of range of the AF focus assist.

[chenwei]

Quote: Originally posted by Zplus Thanks Chenwei for the comments. Met with a 602z user at cs birthday party and he commmented that indoor shots under yellow lighting conditions, it still cannot make it. Ur.... was wondering how's the performance under say... wedding dinners or dnds where the people are all moving about and the lighting is low?? Saw kindred using his G3 and 420EX flash at the birthday thing and it seems to be able to capture movement quite easily. And the flash is auto.

erm.... i dun really understand what he mean by indoor shots under yellow lighting cannot make it, unless the lighting condition is very bad that u can't focus at all, otherwise it shouldn't be any problems.

as mpenza said, if the person is moving quite fast, i dun think the AF light can capture it as well...

[Zplus]

Quote: erm.... i dun really understand what he mean by indoor shots under yellow lighting cannot make it, unless the lighting condition is very bad that u can't focus at all, otherwise it shouldn't be any problems.

Yup, that's what got me to wonder about its perf under those low light conditions. You see, currently all my digicams have this difficulty. Hence, cannot really get many good indoor shots of weddings and dnds coz most of the time the lighting condition is bad for focusing. Then the flash goes and you get a well lit but unfocused shot. That's why I decided to upgrade to one which can do this.

Hahah! Had one guy ask me to do DSLR, but I cannot afford it!

[pker88]

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as mpenza said, if the person is moving quite fast, i dun think the AF light can capture it as well...

so u mean if tat is the case to take a moving fast object a 602 will do the job better then a G3?
since it got fast shutter/focuing?

[chenwei]

zplus, usually those scene i think the lighting is low but should be able for u to focus, otherwise it's too dark hold those events already....

Quote: Originally posted by pker88 so u mean if tat is the case to take a moving fast object a 602 will do the job better then a G3? since it got fast shutter/focuing?

nope, i mean if it's too dark that AF illuminator is needed, it will take some time for the red light drop on object, cam do focus, in this case, moving object already out of the place where AF assist light drop on... erm... did i say it correctly?

[mpenza]

Quote: Originally posted by Zplus Yup, that's what got me to wonder about its perf under those low light conditions. You see, currently all my digicams have this difficulty. Hence, cannot really get many good indoor shots of weddings and dnds coz most of the time the lighting condition is bad for focusing. Then the flash goes and you get a well lit but unfocused shot. That's why I decided to upgrade to one which can do this. Hahah! Had one guy ask me to do DSLR, but I cannot afford it!

Focussing during weddings have been pretty alright for me with the 602Z. It was awful when I had the Casio QV2900UX.

[Zplus]

Thanks mpenza for taking time to help me out...
Could you post some wedding samples for me to have a look?
Also, wats the ext flash you are using and could I just use it in auto mode?

Thanks!

[mpenza]

cannot lah. need my friend's permission. you could check out the fashion show pics I've taken though.

I'm using Nikon SB80DX, a little bit overkill for the camera Some other popular flash are Vivitar 285HV and Metz 32Z1. You'll usually use auto mode on the external flash and manual mode on the camera. It's easier to manage this way.

[pker88]

curious to know as 602z can use CF and SM card in the camera
can both works?
if install both in the camera?
like when my CF cards if full can i switch to SM card example?

anyone try this before?
geee

[Zplus]

Quote: I'm using Nikon SB80DX, a little bit overkill for the camera

WowZ!!! That's quite ex rite??
Just did some reading up on this SB800DX. Its got TTL. Does this function work with the 602z?