KM 7D vs Sony Alpha

[red_ryder]

The Sony Alpha has some new features like anti-dust, dynamic range optimization and 10 MP, but it is still based on the 5D body. If I don’t care for these new features, should I get a 7D instead?

Does the 7D have a better arrangement of buttons on the body? Does it have a larger viewfinder? Will I be able to use new lenses released by sony on the 7D?

[Zenten]

Originally Posted by red_ryder The Sony Alpha has some new features like anti-dust, dynamic range optimization and 10 MP, but it is still based on the 5D body. If I don’t care for these new features, should I get a 7D instead? Does the 7D have a better arrangement of buttons on the body? Does it have a larger viewfinder? Will I be able to use new lenses released by sony on the 7D?

As with all digital products, newer technology is almost always better ........

[satay16]

about better buttons, 7D still best. eg. the AF/MF button in 7D is missing in A100.

[Zenten]

Originally Posted by satay16 about better buttons, 7D still best. eg. the AF/MF button in 7D is missing in A100.

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[Agetan]

Originally Posted by red_ryder The Sony Alpha has some new features like anti-dust, dynamic range optimization and 10 MP, but it is still based on the 5D body. If I don’t care for these new features, should I get a 7D instead? Does the 7D have a better arrangement of buttons on the body? Does it have a larger viewfinder? Will I be able to use new lenses released by sony on the 7D?

In my opinion, yes, 7D is still much better than A-100 after handling both myself.

I got 2 x 7D myself.

A-100 and 7D are different league...

Hart

[Johnston]

Originally Posted by red_ryder The Sony Alpha has some new features like anti-dust, dynamic range optimization and 10 MP, but it is still based on the 5D body. If I don’t care for these new features, should I get a 7D instead? Does the 7D have a better arrangement of buttons on the body? Does it have a larger viewfinder? Will I be able to use new lenses released by sony on the 7D?

Agreed with agetan. between the 2, i will still choose 7D. thats why i bought one even after a100 was launched. have a feel on a100 on their roadshow, 7D still feel better in my hands. the build is also better.

[DewaKarma]

hmm..wat af/mf button missing? its by the side and just one click away mah...

[tokrot]

KM 7D is no doubt better. Its weight, button, dials all on the right direction. Anyway, A100 is of different class.

[Zenten]

Originally Posted by DewaKarma hmm..wat af/mf button missing? its by the side and just one click away mah...

Yeah .......... it's just by the side.

What the A100 really needs is a second control dial like the 70D .......

Talk about other aspects, and not just buttons and dials,........ isn't it obvious that the A100 is a more responsive camera ........ less shutter lag and faster AF with eye start ...... obviously these are lacking in the 7D. Btw, I am a minolta user and I have tried all 3 cameras .......... you can still flame me if you want ...........

[Timber Wolf]

Haha I think the 7D is in a different class compared to the A100, though the A100 does have many improvements that I'd wish to see on the 7D Mk2.

I think the eye-start AF implementation is bad... they need a grip sensor so that the camera doesn't focus madly everytime i put the cam on my tummy.

[Zenten]

Originally Posted by Timber Wolf Haha I think the 7D is in a different class compared to the A100, though the A100 does have many improvements that I'd wish to see on the 7D Mk2. I think the eye-start AF implementation is bad... they need a grip sensor so that the camera doesn't focus madly everytime i put the cam on my tummy.

Did you cover your belly button when you laid the A100 on your tum tum?

Then again, if you are not using the camera, shouldn't you just switch it off?

[satay16]

Originally Posted by DewaKarma hmm..wat af/mf button missing? its by the side and just one click away mah...

nonono....not that one. is the button where you can do instant MF/AF for a while.

[tankm]

KM5D and A-100 don't have this easy access MF/AF button. They do have DMF (Direct Manual Focus), where you can focus manually after the camera has lock focus. It's not as convenient as the 7D MF/AF but it's doable.

Originally Posted by satay16 nonono....not that one. is the button where you can do instant MF/AF for a while.

[Trigger Happy]

Originally Posted by tankm KM5D and A-100 don't have this easy access MF/AF button. They do have DMF (Direct Manual Focus), where you can focus manually after the camera has lock focus. It's not as convenient as the 7D MF/AF but it's doable.

i remember there was a thread a long time ago on how to enable this on the 5d, but i never really used it. with the old a-mount lenses that don't have AF, i've found that focussing can be tough sometimes especially when the subject is moving fast. so i've grown to appreciate AF even more.

someone please educate me, why do we want to override AF when its obviously sharper than what our eyes or twitching fingers can achieve with MF?

[satay16]

Originally Posted by Trigger Happy i remember there was a thread a long time ago on how to enable this on the 5d, but i never really used it. with the old a-mount lenses that don't have AF, i've found that focussing can be tough sometimes especially when the subject is moving fast. so i've grown to appreciate AF even more. someone please educate me, why do we want to override AF when its obviously sharper than what our eyes or twitching fingers can achieve with MF?

cos that same button can also be an instant AF in the MF mode.

this is pretty useful if you take quite alot of group shots, can just set to manual, press the button to focus, then take as many as you want without lagging. i use this function alot(and alot means like damn alot) during prize giving ceromonies, like honours night or speech days. when they go up and collect prizes, i cannot afford the AF to suddenly go into hunting mode for some reason and lose that shot. so, i like prefocus first, than stay at that spot and shoot. and sometimes, if some sudden turn of events happens, i can quickly press that button to focus and shoot. yes, we can do the same thing by switching to the AF MF mode simountanously, but in some fast paced events, the switch might not be quick enuf

[tankm]

DMF is selectable in the focus menu.

Is for cases where the AF start to hunt and MF is the only option. However the DMF does not allow MF when it cannot lock focus. This is where the 7D easy access MF/AF comes in handy.

My guess is this is a seldom used feature but handy when situation arises. "Satay16" most likely use this often with his wide angle lens.

Originally Posted by Trigger Happy i remember there was a thread a long time ago on how to enable this on the 5d, but i never really used it. with the old a-mount lenses that don't have AF, i've found that focussing can be tough sometimes especially when the subject is moving fast. so i've grown to appreciate AF even more. someone please educate me, why do we want to override AF when its obviously sharper than what our eyes or twitching fingers can achieve with MF?

[satay16]

Originally Posted by tankm DMF is selectable in the focus menu. Is for cases where the AF start to hunt and MF is the only option. However the DMF does not allow MF when it cannot lock focus. This is where the 7D easy access MF/AF comes in handy. My guess is this is a seldom used feature but handy when situation arises. "Satay16" most likely use this often with his wide angle lens.

i tell you, you are darn right. that stupid lens keeps focusing on the background, and i remembered 1 time where ALL the prize giving pics i took had the recipents face OOFed! only the stupid bg was in focus! that's when i started appreciating the method i stated in my previous post.

[Trigger Happy]

Originally Posted by satay16 i tell you, you are darn right. that stupid lens keeps focusing on the background, and i remembered 1 time where ALL the prize giving pics i took had the recipents face OOFed! only the stupid bg was in focus! that's when i started appreciating the method i stated in my previous post.

what focussing mode did you use?

anyway, when i get my 7d tomorrow (hopefully the deal goes through without a hitch) i'll try playing with the af/mf function and see how good it is.

[satay16]

Originally Posted by Trigger Happy what focussing mode did you use? anyway, when i get my 7d tomorrow (hopefully the deal goes through without a hitch) i'll try playing with the af/mf function and see how good it is.

center focusing square. but like what some pp pointed out, that square you see is much bigger than you think.
that button is useful because there are alot of ways to use it. for some pp, they might not even leave a fingerprint on it. depends on what you shoot. for me, i find it most useful acting as a instant AF button.

[Trigger Happy]

Originally Posted by satay16 center focusing square. but like what some pp pointed out, that square you see is much bigger than you think. that button is useful because there are alot of ways to use it. for some pp, they might not even leave a fingerprint on it. depends on what you shoot. for me, i find it most useful acting as a instant AF button.

bro, "center focusing square" as in spot-AF mode? using that requires you to half-press or AF lock and then compose your shot before releasing the shutter. otherwise your focus will be in the centre of the lens/ frame hence sometimes this mode is not good for quick shooting. "Wide area" AF might suit your needs better.