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Old 3rd September 2006   #1
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Default 350D + kit lens = soft picture ?

I took this picture below (resized) and found it is not sharp at all. Feel disapointed with it.

Is there any way to get a better picture with te kit lens? Or should I forget about it and start saving now for a better lens?




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Default Re: 350D + kit lens = soft picture ?

350D + kit lens in a hands of a good photographer = nice and sharp picture

dont worry, you just need more practice
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Default Re: 350D + kit lens = soft picture ?

Originally Posted by +evenstar
350D + kit lens in a hands of a good photographer = nice and sharp picture

dont worry, you just need more practice
glad to hear that, because the lenses are not cheap here :-)
any tips for me to improve such picture above? say the lighting in the dojo is not really bright.

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Just a little photoshop work will save the photo.
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more flash and stop to f/8 will do the trick =)
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kit lens is soft? dun bet on it.. it's sharp at f5.6 onwards. here's one at f8..
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Yes, it's sharp if you step to f/8 and onwards.
But the color and contrast still sucks.
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I'd say 350D + kit lens = harder to get sharp picture.

Frankly, I hated the kit lens MK I, and I still hate the kit lens MKII. The kit lens is only ok at f5.6 outdoors because of the higher contrast. Indoors, you'd need f8 for it to look good.

Ok but that being said I shoot mostly indoor, which is why it doesn't work for me. If you do mostly outdoor shots, it's passable I guess for the price.

If you have the budget, get something else, why deliberately make life difficult for yourself?
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Has anyone customise their parameters for sharper pic? I am sure the results are better.
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I tend to shoot in RAW then sharpen later. If not i just do +1 for all.. If i'm using a non-L then maybe +2 for all except contrast
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Has anyone customise their parameters for sharper pic? I am sure the results are better.
I would rather sharpen it in photosharp. That said, I always take in RAW
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Originally Posted by aikidoka25
I took this picture below (resized) and found it is not sharp at all. Feel disapointed with it.

Is there any way to get a better picture with te kit lens? Or should I forget about it and start saving now for a better lens?




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U know what?

It looks more like the fault of the photographer rather than the fault of the equipment.

Looks pretty severely underexposed. Check ya skills before faulting the lens and camera.
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Originally Posted by aikidoka25
glad to hear that, because the lenses are not cheap here :-)
any tips for me to improve such picture above? say the lighting in the dojo is not really bright.
Try...

f/5.6, 1/15, ISO400, exposure compensation from +1/3 to +2/3

Since u're an Aikidoka, I presume u'll know abt the special set of wrist strengthening exercises taught by ur Sensei so handshake is not really an excuse.

That is of cos, u're not thoroughly exhausted after ur Irimi-nages.
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Default Re: 350D + kit lens = soft picture ?

thx for all te tips, really an eye opener.

didn't know it was underexposed because from the brief checking on the lcd it seems ok, but not on the pc.

should be better next time ...
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To check the exposure look at the histogram and not rely on your LCD alone.
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Originally Posted by +evenstar
350D + kit lens in a hands of a good photographer = nice and sharp picture

dont worry, you just need more practice
Agree !
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with more practice everything will turn out fine.
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Default Re: 350D + kit lens = soft picture ?

Originally Posted by aikidoka25
thx for all te tips, really an eye opener.

didn't know it was underexposed because from the brief checking on the lcd it seems ok, but not on the pc.

should be better next time ...
If there's no better liar amongst all ur camera equipment, it would be the LCD screen which is the best liar of 'em all.

Knowledge on shutter, aperture, ISO is better than depending on the LCD preview to check exposure. Couple that with viewing the Histogram, even better.
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i've dumped my kit lens. somehow, photoshop works wonder if you know how to..... tweak the pic.
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i believe it is capable of getting sharp image as long as you stopped down to around f8. at least i felt that my nikon kit lens 18-55 is pretty alright.
but sold it too as i find f8 is pretty slow unless under very good lighting/flash
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