F20 (new Picture Stabilizer, not found in F30!)

[timberex]

Hi guys,

I am looking at F11, but found that F20 has recently been released. It seems to be cheaper than F11 from the US sites that I have found. Anyone has seen F20 selling in Singapore yet?

[micah4]

if manual control is impt. to u, then don't bother w F20 - it's the lesser version of F30, probably targeted at the lower budget users who still desire the performance of the super ccd, altho the max iso is 2000 vs 3200.

F20 is selling at Comex for $499 w/free gifts.

[Bean]

I visited MS Color yesterday and they are selling the F20 at $499 with free 1GB xD card, mini tripod and case. Over there there's less crowd and thus more time to test the camera. Also, the price of F11 has dropped to $399 with free 512MB xD card over at MS Color.

Tempting..

BTW, ISO for F20 is up to 2000, and it has a slightly smaller form compared to F30..

[aaron80]

Anyone knows the Iso performance of the F20 compared to F30? If it is comparable, maybe i will get the F20.. And what is the price of the F30 nw? I saw a leaflet which shows price of F11 and F20 but F30 they nv show the price..

[Bean]

Originally Posted by aaron80 Anyone knows the Iso performance of the F20 compared to F30? If it is comparable, maybe i will get the F20.. And what is the price of the F30 nw? I saw a leaflet which shows price of F11 and F20 but F30 they nv show the price..

From specs, they both use the same generation sensor, juz tt for f20, they cap the ISO at 2000.

What leaflet did u see?

At MS Color at AMK, F30 is $599 with 1Gb xD, mini tripod & case, but for this Comex period, they are bundling an additional battery and screen protector without additional charge.

[micah4]

it's only "ISO1600 on Auto and Manual Mode". U can hit ISO2000 only on "Picture Stabilization and Natural Light Mode". But it now comes with, as this thread title states, "Picture Stabilizer" which F30 does not hv.

...again no manual features/controls.

[evoX]

Originally Posted by micah4 it's only "ISO1600 on Auto and Manual Mode". U can hit ISO2000 only on "Picture Stabilization and Natural Light Mode". But it now comes with, as this thread title states, "Picture Stabilizer" which F30 does not hv. ...again no manual features/controls.

the F30 have an "Anti-blur" mode, which is essentially the same as "picture stabilizer" in F20

[aaron80]

Icic.. Seems that F30 may be a better deal as it comes with 1GB XD card instead of 512 for F20 and the extra batt and screen protector.. Does F30 comes with any manual modes? Eg. Aperture Priority, Shutter Priority?

Originally Posted by evoX the F30 have an "Anti-blur" mode, which is essentially the same as "picture stabilizer" in F20

[micah4]

Originally Posted by aaron80 Icic.. Seems that F30 may be a better deal as it comes with 1GB XD card instead of 512 for F20 and the extra batt and screen protector.. Does F30 comes with any manual modes? Eg. Aperture Priority, Shutter Priority?

my advice is not to get it at Comex, IIRC, the price is 699...if u get outside it's 599 but w/o the extra batt and scrn proc...anyway the extra batt costs only 30 and the scrn proc 8...don't add up to 100 bucks.

...and of coz the F30 comes w manual AP and SP...that's way I made it a point to point it out.

edited: from another thread, F30 is now abt S$585 incl. 1GB H-type, screen Protector, leather case, mini tripod...no extra batt.

[swimcraze]

Originally Posted by evoX the F30 have an "Anti-blur" mode, which is essentially the same as "picture stabilizer" in F20

the feature is also found in F11....it's nothing new - just that you have to get into the menu to set the feature.

yes...F30 has Aperture P and Shutter P mode - also just like F11.

[tao]

Originally Posted by evoX the F30 have an "Anti-blur" mode, which is essentially the same as "picture stabilizer" in F20

it is simply an ISO boost feature, not actual image stabilisation by mechanical means.

[aaron80]

So is the picture stabilization mode on F20 an image stabilising function or just boost of the ISO to get higher shutter speed? If it is the latter, den no point liao, I might as well get F30..

Originally Posted by tao it is simply an ISO boost feature, not actual image stabilisation by mechanical means.

[micah4]

the pic stabilizer works same as the F30's Anti-blur - it increases the iso automatically to raise the shutter speed thereby reducing blur.

[schon]

how does the Z3 compare to the F20 in terms of image quality, low-light performance particularly?

[aaron80]

From what I have heard and seen so far, the best low-light performance for Fuji will be the F-series.. F10, F11 and F30.. I never tried or seen the F20 in actions before.. But from the specs, it will seem to be on par with F30.. So I will presume that in terms of image quality, Z3 and F20 maybe not too far apart but low-light performance, F20 wins hands-down..

Originally Posted by schon how does the Z3 compare to the F20 in terms of image quality, low-light performance particularly?

[tao]

Originally Posted by schon how does the Z3 compare to the F20 in terms of image quality, low-light performance particularly?

of course the F20 is better, it has a larger CCD and larger pixel pitch.

[jsbn]

Hmm... The F20 certainly does look like a good deal, for no brainer shoots without thinking too much and all u'll wanna do is juz snap.

$500 for the F20... Sigh... To think I paid $800 for my first PnS.

[yanyewkay]

Originally Posted by Bean Also, the price of F11 has dropped to $399 with free 512MB xD card over at MS Color.

I bought mine >$600 new...

but no regrets!! Still loving it till now.

[Dann]

Originally Posted by micah4 my advice is not to get it at Comex, IIRC, the price is 699...if u get outside it's 599 but w/o the extra batt and scrn proc...anyway the extra batt costs only 30 and the scrn proc 8...don't add up to 100 bucks. ...and of coz the F30 comes w manual AP and SP...that's way I made it a point to point it out. edited: from another thread, F30 is now abt S$585 incl. 1GB H-type, screen Protector, leather case, mini tripod...no extra batt.

Fyi you can get the F30 at Comex for $580 even though they state $699.

[jnet6]

Originally Posted by Dann Fyi you can get the F30 at Comex for $580 even though they state $699.

price!!!
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