Maldive

teochewboy · 24th August 2006

Please comment, Thank you

kthan · 24th August 2006

hi teochew

welcome to the pool.

when conditions are not optimum for photography, u can try the video mode. rem, digital cmas nowadays are not just for photography, but great video at 640X480 too!

Hainan

teochewboy · 25th August 2006

Originally Posted by kthan

hi teochew

welcome to the pool.

when conditions are not optimum for photography, u can try the video mode. rem, digital cmas nowadays are not just for photography, but great video at 640X480 too!

Hainan

Hi Hainan,
Your reply is as shallow as your name. hahahahaha, be open hearted and not feel small everytime, and you will be prosperous..moho ..............

sunfish · 25th August 2006

Originally Posted by teochewboy

Hi Hainan,
Your reply is as shallow as your name. hahahahaha, be open hearted and not feel small everytime, and you will be prosperous..moho ..............

aiyo bro, why you sound so heated up

? Maldive water not cool enough?

I believe kthan was only suggesting to you to be mindful of your photography subject selection and composition, also taking into consideration the surrounding conditions before pressing the shutter release button.

IMHO, pic no.1 would make a nice picture if you have a tighter crop around the clown fish. Including too much of rocks and anemone will be a distraction.
You are using Olympus u700 right? It has a minimum focal distance of 37mm, make use of this nice feature and always try to go nearer to your subject(without causing any harm to it of course)

cheers and carry on shooting, I am also an Olympus supporter.

teochewboy · 25th August 2006

Originally Posted by sunfish

aiyo bro, why you sound so heated up ? Maldive water not cool enough?

I believe kthan was only suggesting to you to be mindful of your photography subject selection and composition, also taking into consideration the surrounding conditions before pressing the shutter release button.

IMHO, pic no.1 would make a nice picture if you have a tighter crop around the clown fish. Including too much of rocks and anemone will be a distraction.
You are using Olympus u700 right? It has a minimum focal distance of 37mm, make use of this nice feature and always try to go nearer to your subject(without causing any harm to it of course)

cheers and carry on shooting, I am also an Olympus supporter.

OK,point noted..thanks, by the way, no hard feeling,Kthan.

lovells19 · 25th August 2006

u using those disposable film cameras?

teochewboy · 25th August 2006

Originally Posted by lovells19

u using those disposable film cameras?

haha, interesting question, can we transfer images to PC using disposable camera?
can you recommend a disposable camera with a USB port for PC connection?

kthan · 25th August 2006

hmm....

i guess i cannot be too subtle in my comments for some people.

i don;t quite understand your reply actually. Hai (ocean) is quite deep, so u meant my comment is too chim? basically the pics are terrible. No much thought process has been given, and they are out of focus too. If the conditions make it diffcult to take photographs, use the video mode to shoot videos instead. I left the first part out to be nice to someone who is new to the forum in my first post, but obviously, it isn't much appreciated.

As for transferring photos onto digital format, we use scanner....

i'll be surprised to see any other forummers bothering to comment on your pics from hereon.

eric

jbma · 25th August 2006

They are not in focus and third one looks so artificial. These are bad.

slato · 25th August 2006

none of these photos look good, both technically (focusing? exposure? shaking?...) and artistically (framing?........). Not worth.
Eric had a good point.
Sorry if I'm shallow too.

TwilightZone · 25th August 2006

Originally Posted by teochewboy

haha, interesting question, can we transfer images to PC using disposable camera?
can you recommend a disposable camera with a USB port for PC connection?

hmm...I sense sarcasm here...perhaps you feel being attacked by forumers here. I assure you they have no ill intention at all.

I am sure Kthan's comments are kind advices. I personally gained a lot from the comments of the 'lao jiaos' here. If you do not like the advices, then you should not have asked for comments.

Just my 3mm deep comments.

beivied · 26th August 2006

cool guys

Hi teochewboy, kthan didnt mean anything tooo cynical, i believe. and neither does teochewboy to kthan, right?

teochewboy, i assume u r quite new to uw photography? very frankly, the photos are not too well taken, which it would hv been good if you can try to do some post processing to improve them.

uw photography requires more than photography knowledge than land to produce good results. you need to sharpen on things like how to approach ur subject, how to handle your buoyancy etc while taking the photos.

cheers, practice more!

zambullidor · 26th August 2006

Teochewboy

I started off as a land photographer and was into my 150 dives before I decided to bring my SLR down with big arms and dual strobes

. Then I thought that my decent bouyancy skills and the different types of diving i've done can allow me to take good shots and comfortable in the waters with the load. And remember the 1st time when friends commented on my u/w pics. Damn heartbreaking. Feel like selling away my strobes and u/w casing.

One must be big and strong enough to take comments if the quality of shoots are to improve.

Prob the strong currents @ Maldives affects your bouyancy hence the not in focus shots and not a true reflection of your photography skills on land.

Keep trying and one can get better. And I believe that you want to be better, hence u posted the pics here for critique.

The boys here are trying to give some sound advices without sounding rude.

Else google and email to Tony Wu, William Tan, Richard Swann (Down Below Dive School), Andrea and Antonella Ferrari for some tips in u/w photography. I'm sure they will and can help you

lovells19 · 28th August 2006

when you send ur film in for developing you actually can get them to scan the photos into CD for you, thats what i do, and i only print those from film that i like

well the effect of the photos does look like those disposable film cameras i first brought down during my first few dive trips.

If you're using digital, well guess you should be

haha sorry

Try using Macro mode, and go nearer, if you cannot go nearer, don't zoom, try to go nearer somehow if still cannot.. just watch and enjoy the creature..

Auto mode doesn't really work very well underwater, and tends to give a quite undesirable effect underwater due to the lost of light underwater. but still moving closer, with an aid of a torch you can trick the camera into shoot at a higher shutter speed, higher ISO helps

we all have our bad days :"D im sure it'll be soon over

24th August 2006	#1
teochewboy New Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 9	Maldive Please comment, Thank you Last edited by teochewboy; 24th August 2006 at 06:30 PM.

24th August 2006	#2
kthan Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 2,318	Re: Maldive hi teochew welcome to the pool. when conditions are not optimum for photography, u can try the video mode. rem, digital cmas nowadays are not just for photography, but great video at 640X480 too! Hainan

25th August 2006	#6
lovells19 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Deep Deep in the sea Posts: 3,234	Re: Maldive u using those disposable film cameras?

25th August 2006	#8
kthan Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 2,318	Re: Maldive hmm.... i guess i cannot be too subtle in my comments for some people. i don;t quite understand your reply actually. Hai (ocean) is quite deep, so u meant my comment is too chim? basically the pics are terrible. No much thought process has been given, and they are out of focus too. If the conditions make it diffcult to take photographs, use the video mode to shoot videos instead. I left the first part out to be nice to someone who is new to the forum in my first post, but obviously, it isn't much appreciated. As for transferring photos onto digital format, we use scanner.... i'll be surprised to see any other forummers bothering to comment on your pics from hereon. eric Last edited by kthan; 25th August 2006 at 07:50 PM.

25th August 2006	#9
jbma Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Tampines Posts: 3,315	Re: Maldive They are not in focus and third one looks so artificial. These are bad.

25th August 2006	#10
slato Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 53	Re: Maldive none of these photos look good, both technically (focusing? exposure? shaking?...) and artistically (framing?........). Not worth. Eric had a good point. Sorry if I'm shallow too. Last edited by slato; 25th August 2006 at 08:09 PM.

26th August 2006	#12
beivied Moderator Join Date: May 2003 Location: East, Singapore Posts: 4,213	Re: Maldive cool guys Hi teochewboy, kthan didnt mean anything tooo cynical, i believe. and neither does teochewboy to kthan, right? teochewboy, i assume u r quite new to uw photography? very frankly, the photos are not too well taken, which it would hv been good if you can try to do some post processing to improve them. uw photography requires more than photography knowledge than land to produce good results. you need to sharpen on things like how to approach ur subject, how to handle your buoyancy etc while taking the photos. cheers, practice more!

26th August 2006	#13
zambullidor Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 77	Re: Maldive Teochewboy I started off as a land photographer and was into my 150 dives before I decided to bring my SLR down with big arms and dual strobes . Then I thought that my decent bouyancy skills and the different types of diving i've done can allow me to take good shots and comfortable in the waters with the load. And remember the 1st time when friends commented on my u/w pics. Damn heartbreaking. Feel like selling away my strobes and u/w casing. One must be big and strong enough to take comments if the quality of shoots are to improve. Prob the strong currents @ Maldives affects your bouyancy hence the not in focus shots and not a true reflection of your photography skills on land. Keep trying and one can get better. And I believe that you want to be better, hence u posted the pics here for critique. The boys here are trying to give some sound advices without sounding rude. Else google and email to Tony Wu, William Tan, Richard Swann (Down Below Dive School), Andrea and Antonella Ferrari for some tips in u/w photography. I'm sure they will and can help you

28th August 2006	#14
lovells19 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Deep Deep in the sea Posts: 3,234	Re: Maldive when you send ur film in for developing you actually can get them to scan the photos into CD for you, thats what i do, and i only print those from film that i like well the effect of the photos does look like those disposable film cameras i first brought down during my first few dive trips. If you're using digital, well guess you should be haha sorry Try using Macro mode, and go nearer, if you cannot go nearer, don't zoom, try to go nearer somehow if still cannot.. just watch and enjoy the creature.. Auto mode doesn't really work very well underwater, and tends to give a quite undesirable effect underwater due to the lost of light underwater. but still moving closer, with an aid of a torch you can trick the camera into shoot at a higher shutter speed, higher ISO helps we all have our bad days :"D im sure it'll be soon over