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    Question Mac vs PC, PC vs Mac - Which is better for RAW? - The answer is INSIDE!!

    At last, a definitive benchmark on whether PC is better or Mac is better for imaging workflow.

    In pro digital photography, megahertz matters - Article by Rob Galbraith - CLICK ME!!

    Conclusion is that a 3.06GHz Pentium 4 PC outpaces the top end dual 1.25GHz G4 Mac by a very considerable margin, and even a 1.8GHz Pentium 4 is able to keep up with (and in most cases, overtake) the top end Macintosh.

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    No AMD CPU comparison?

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    But apple never crashes. And it's good for video too. I'll choose Apple for it's design and it's heavy duty image processing work.
    I'm still an Apple fan regardless of all.

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    But hey, Apple just released their absolutely cool 17" G4 PowerBook.

    17" Widescreen display (1440 x 900)
    802.11g support
    FireWire 800 support (Faster than regular FireWire 400)
    Auto Backlit keyboard via fibre optics

    http://www.apple.com/powerbook/index17.html



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    Originally posted by ckiang
    But hey, Apple just released their absolutely cool 17" G4 PowerBook.
    *wipe drool off my keyboard*

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    Originally posted by hazardman
    But apple never crashes. And it's good for video too. I'll choose Apple for it's design and it's heavy duty image processing work.
    I'm still an Apple fan regardless of all.

    never crash Zhun Boh ??!?!?

    win2k and winxp is just as stable.
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    Originally posted by rueyloon



    never crash Zhun Boh ??!?!?

    win2k and winxp is just as stable.
    Win2k/XP is not 'as stable'. They are way ahead in stablity.

    Mac OS9 is nearly as unstable as Windows ME :-).

    Try supporting several 100 mac machines and still think they are stable after wards.

    OS9 had too much internet crap added to it in order to compete with Windows. I think they suceeding in being windows like - they emulated the unreliablity. The last really stable OS version was 8.6.
    Price pressure on Apple of late has caused them to use cheaper parts - we get HD and Power supply failures at a rate comparable with cheap PCs.

    MacOSX is mostly stable but to few apps take advantage of it and it's a support nightmare as Apple keep making significant changes each release.

    Apple like to say their DP machines out compute wintel platforms, but DP wintel platforms are cheaper, and your application has to be threaded to take advantage of more than one CPU - and if your photo transform can't be threaded, it doesn't matter how many processors you have, its only going to run at the speed that one CPU chip can compute at.

    A G4 IS way faster clock for clock than a P4, around 2x faster. Even PIII is significantly faster clock for clock than a P4. (Intel don't like to publish that one. :-) Thats why AMD started "PR" labling their chips again, AMD Athlons are more effcient chips than the PIII, let alone the P4, but people are buying on raw MHz values.

    The P4 only wins over the G4 as they are made at more than 2x the clock speed of the G4 chip thus can win on raw brawn.


    We have people at work proud of their DP mac G4 machines, but all they do basic word processing and simple web pages and run MacOS9, which CANT use the 2nd processor chip - it sits there idle....


    As always - find the software that does the things you want and is easy to use. Then buy what ever computer/OS your chosen package needs to run.

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    Originally posted by rueyloon



    never crash Zhun Boh ??!?!?

    win2k and winxp is just as stable.
    Got a colleague running an iBook with 320MB on OS X, never switches off the machine (he always put it on suspend). He uses it daily for photoshop, etc and it had not required reboot for over 2 weeks.

    OTOH, my Win2K Professional workstation in office runs for months without needing a reboot too.



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    OMG Apple never crash... who are you kidding.

    Originally posted by hazardman
    But apple never crashes. And it's good for video too. I'll choose Apple for it's design and it's heavy duty image processing work.
    I'm still an Apple fan regardless of all.
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    hmm no linux fans ah ..... =< Linux is quite good for digital imaging too leh

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    Originally posted by sljm
    hmm no linux fans ah ..... =< Linux is quite good for digital imaging too leh
    True, but Mac has nicer, more accurate displays.

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    That I do agree, my Ti seem to display my images more accurately, recently I have adjusted my PC monitor closer to that.

    Originally posted by ckiang


    True, but Mac has nicer, more accurate displays.

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    really meh
    somehow i dun believe the review (could it be anti mac) cos i always tot mac is faster thats why many designer and pros in digital imaging is using mac
    as the saying goes what u pay is what u get

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    Originally posted by ckiang
    But hey, Apple just released their absolutely cool 17" G4 PowerBook.

    17" Widescreen display (1440 x 900)
    802.11g support
    FireWire 800 support (Faster than regular FireWire 400)
    Auto Backlit keyboard via fibre optics

    http://www.apple.com/powerbook/index17.html



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    dear bro.....this is not cheap leh.....

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    Originally posted by nicholas1986
    really meh
    somehow i dun believe the review (could it be anti mac) cos i always tot mac is faster thats why many designer and pros in digital imaging is using mac
    as the saying goes what u pay is what u get
    I'm using a mac and I belive the report

    buck for buck, mac cannot fight on price vs performance
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    hmm i always throught MAC is best for imaging?
    hehee

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    Originally posted by ckiang
    But hey, Apple just released their absolutely cool 17" G4 PowerBook.

    17" Widescreen display (1440 x 900)
    802.11g support
    FireWire 800 support (Faster than regular FireWire 400)
    Auto Backlit keyboard via fibre optics

    http://www.apple.com/powerbook/index17.html



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    nice design.

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    Originally posted by sljm
    hmm no linux fans ah ..... =< Linux is quite good for digital imaging too leh
    I use Linux. But it lacks colour management. There is stuff around but the various people working on colour management solutions are skirting around software patents...

    Apple to their credit DO understand the importance of Colour managment. M$ only recently realised they need to as well, but they don't make the hardware their OS runs on unlike Apple.

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