Mother And Son.

GDSNP · 13th August 2006

I'd prefer a closer approach rather than shooting from afar. Subject doesn't stand out. Seems like just another snapshot to me.

Wisp · 13th August 2006

What's wrong with snap shots?

hondasleeper · 13th August 2006

You know what?? I really like the shot. Nobody else but the mother has eye contact with the camera, everyone else couldn't really care less. The image tells a story not just about the mother and the child but also about how the rest of the people in the cafe are so caught up doing their own things even the child isn't paying attention to the photographer, probably he's distracted by something else.

2 things that I feel could make the image alot stronger is that I would increase the contrast a little, the blacks look kinda muddy. And the other thing, that may or may not work, but maybe cropping in on the image a little, crop from the pillar from the left and the shutters on the left.

Whatever anyone else says I like it.

Wisp · 14th August 2006

Thank you very much. I always print full frame , or try to mostly, as I do not believe in manipulating or altering a dimensions of an image composition, except minor enhancement by contrast control and toning.

While I don't have the WYSIWYG capability in my camera, I still try to do things good the first time round, and I will live by any errors I make.

sk.images · 14th August 2006

Are you sure that's a mother and not a father?

I really think that this image would benefit from a crop. On the right, get rid of the lady and only a little on the left.

I love the expressions on the subjects faces and fact you have eye contact from the mother/father makes the image.

satay16 · 14th August 2006

it looks like those cool oldie photos i saw in breeks restaurant.

Bobman · 14th August 2006

While the people are reading the news of the world, the mother and child are staring at them....

If only the man behind the mother could disappear.

slooow · 14th August 2006

i think you are right

looks like father... even the tight jeans looks...... like a father

hehehe

Wisp · 14th August 2006

uh huh...

Thanks for the commentry though~! I prefer not to cut anyone out as I believe in potraying the enviroment where I've taken the picture.

But as said, it's very subjective!!!

chouk · 14th August 2006

I prefer this one though.. just using simple text.

one of my favorite artist

Wisp · 14th August 2006

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Out of point. Please keep to topic!

Static · 15th August 2006

Originally Posted by chouk

I prefer this one though.. just using simple text.
one of my favorite artist

Interesting

i like it

bluroom · 15th August 2006

Hi Wisp, generally I rather like the photo, though I agree that a slightly (e.g. 5-10%) tighter cropping might help. I love shots where you have the subject with the environment, I think it serves as an interesting commentary of the place and time. And in this instance, the subject of the mother and child certainly is interesting. We see something enigmatic in their eyes. We try to figure what's on their minds at that very moment in time. I personally think that it needs a certain amount of mid-grey in the picture as well as it might be a little too contrasty. Photography IS subjective. But there are some objective rules that are there to help photographers tap into a world of knowledge that has stemmed from a century of images and on how the human eye and mind respond to aesthetics. Having said that, if you like what you have, then I say screw the rules.

Wisp · 16th August 2006

Thanks for the comments, though a few went OT. Well, it's okay. Not all critiques have to be accepted anyway~

GDSNP · 16th August 2006

Originally Posted by Wisp

What's wrong with snap shots?

Nothing wrong with snapshots. Just casual photography that's all.

Terence · 16th August 2006

I think the dark space in the top half of the frame is a little distracting and could do with a crop like others suggested, though I'd agree it's subjective.

What really doesn't work for me is the general soft look to the overall shot and the blown highlights in the details of the clothing. While I don't mind graininess, I feel that there's a bit too much in this image that seems to be shot at decent light levels. I guess in my mind I equate graininess to low light levels and fast film. The soft look and the graininess makes it seem like an image from a 2 bit newspaper.

I do think that the composition is pretty interesting. The subjects in the background add a nonchalant mood to the image.

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Wisp Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 628	Mother And Son.

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GDSNP Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 484	Re: Mother And Son. I'd prefer a closer approach rather than shooting from afar. Subject doesn't stand out. Seems like just another snapshot to me. __________________ When I do right, no one remembers. When I do wrong, no one ever forgets.

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Wisp Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 628	Re: Mother And Son. What's wrong with snap shots?

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hondasleeper Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 334	Re: Mother And Son. You know what?? I really like the shot. Nobody else but the mother has eye contact with the camera, everyone else couldn't really care less. The image tells a story not just about the mother and the child but also about how the rest of the people in the cafe are so caught up doing their own things even the child isn't paying attention to the photographer, probably he's distracted by something else. 2 things that I feel could make the image alot stronger is that I would increase the contrast a little, the blacks look kinda muddy. And the other thing, that may or may not work, but maybe cropping in on the image a little, crop from the pillar from the left and the shutters on the left. Whatever anyone else says I like it.

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Wisp Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 628	Re: Mother And Son. Thank you very much. I always print full frame , or try to mostly, as I do not believe in manipulating or altering a dimensions of an image composition, except minor enhancement by contrast control and toning. While I don't have the WYSIWYG capability in my camera, I still try to do things good the first time round, and I will live by any errors I make.

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sk.images Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,253	Re: Mother And Son. Are you sure that's a mother and not a father? I really think that this image would benefit from a crop. On the right, get rid of the lady and only a little on the left. I love the expressions on the subjects faces and fact you have eye contact from the mother/father makes the image. __________________ sk.images, ex - cyber_m0nkey

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satay16 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,977	Re: Mother And Son. it looks like those cool oldie photos i saw in breeks restaurant. __________________ -----!!!See CS's city!!!-----

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Bobman Deregistered Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Jungle Posts: 2,357	Re: Mother And Son. While the people are reading the news of the world, the mother and child are staring at them.... If only the man behind the mother could disappear.

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slooow Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,002	Re: Mother And Son. i think you are right looks like father... even the tight jeans looks...... like a father hehehe

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Wisp Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 628	Re: Mother And Son. uh huh... Thanks for the commentry though~! I prefer not to cut anyone out as I believe in potraying the enviroment where I've taken the picture. But as said, it's very subjective!!!

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chouk Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 111	Re: Mother And Son. I prefer this one though.. just using simple text. one of my favorite artist

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Wisp Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 628	Re: Mother And Son. . Out of point. Please keep to topic!

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bluroom Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Ole Fair Singapore Posts: 58	Re: Mother And Son. Hi Wisp, generally I rather like the photo, though I agree that a slightly (e.g. 5-10%) tighter cropping might help. I love shots where you have the subject with the environment, I think it serves as an interesting commentary of the place and time. And in this instance, the subject of the mother and child certainly is interesting. We see something enigmatic in their eyes. We try to figure what's on their minds at that very moment in time. I personally think that it needs a certain amount of mid-grey in the picture as well as it might be a little too contrasty. Photography IS subjective. But there are some objective rules that are there to help photographers tap into a world of knowledge that has stemmed from a century of images and on how the human eye and mind respond to aesthetics. Having said that, if you like what you have, then I say screw the rules.

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Wisp Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 628	Re: Mother And Son. Thanks for the comments, though a few went OT. Well, it's okay. Not all critiques have to be accepted anyway~

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Terence Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: I'm a Llama! Posts: 4,716	Re: Mother And Son. I think the dark space in the top half of the frame is a little distracting and could do with a crop like others suggested, though I'd agree it's subjective. What really doesn't work for me is the general soft look to the overall shot and the blown highlights in the details of the clothing. While I don't mind graininess, I feel that there's a bit too much in this image that seems to be shot at decent light levels. I guess in my mind I equate graininess to low light levels and fast film. The soft look and the graininess makes it seem like an image from a 2 bit newspaper. I do think that the composition is pretty interesting. The subjects in the background add a nonchalant mood to the image. __________________ Visit my photo blog Email only please, NO PM! Last edited by Terence; 16th August 2006 at 11:43 PM.