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    Quote Originally Posted by jsbn
    ...- You would want to build up a portfolio (to capture fireworks which ISN't really a good portfolio, but oh well, what the heck)
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    - You claim ur parents are obstinate and stubborn, do not want to listen to your badgering

    ...- An enlightenment or an insight to what your parents are thinking (which most had given but u probably regard it as a form of sacarsm?)
    - Advice on how to persuade your parents further to the point where they would buckle and yield to your constant badgering (sorry, but some here are parents, some are beyond that age of badgering parents for toys)?
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    1. I did not state it was strictly for the purpose of capturing fireworks.
    2. They are obstinate, not to the point of not listening to my badgering, as you so vulgarly put it, but because they do not want to know more about the SLR system.
    3. I appreciated all the insights to what my parents are thinking, and I understand their view much better now. I did not, and never have, regarded any of those advice giving my parents perspective, as a form of sacarsm.
    4. I just asked for advice from people who went through this and can help me through it as well, not how to play mind games with my parents and blackmail them emotionally.

    To those who derive me as ignorant: if I am so ignorant, I wouldn't even ask for advice. I would still be in an emotional, psychological stand-off with my parents, which I am not. We are getting along very well now, and I am showing them some of my photos which I shot with the P&S.

    To those who told me their tale of how they went through their tough time, and how they saved up for their own camera, it really spurs me on. I'm encouraged by it and hope to be in your shoes someday. Thank you for sharing.

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    So, u've got ur advice earlier.

    Now, move on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsbn
    So, u've got ur advice earlier.

    Now, move on.
    So let get a PnS...!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by n0d3
    Number one, respect your parents. Second, do you really need it? Can you afford it without putting a strain on your parents' finances?

    How about you try to convince your parents using various methods, e.g. showing them how much you would actually need to spend and break down the costs for them to see etc. Or offer to do more chores/some extra work to pay for part of it etc.

    In the end it doesn't matter which camera you use, but the resulting image that comes from it. For dSLRs, the 350D/20D is a camera which will last you for quite some time, the only thing you have to be worried about are your lenses. Your system will easily last you 5-7 years until it breaks down from wear and tear.

    At the end of it, respect your parents no matter what.
    Second that, the threadstarter is ... when you don't get to build porfolio and be a famous photographer, it is your parents fault since they don't buy you canon350D for you.

    if you really need it, save it for yourself. your parents is absolutely right not to buy for you, why kids nowadays think it is so reasonable for their parents to buy something expensive for them?

    post some pic that you have taken by your point and shot, maybe after seeing it, people will ask you to wait for upgrade your equipment.

    Sorry to be harsh, but your mindset is just totally wrong, and yes! it is a parental issue!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LENS
    Second that, the threadstarter is ... when you don't get to build porfolio and be a famous photographer, it is your parents fault since they don't buy you canon350D for you.

    if you really need it, save it for yourself. your parents is absolutely right not to buy for you, why kids nowadays think it is so reasonable for their parents to buy something expensive for them?

    post some pic that you have taken by your point and shot, maybe after seeing it, people will ask you to wait for upgrade your equipment.

    Sorry to be harsh, but your mindset is just totally wrong, and yes! it is a parental issue!
    It occurred to me, after 3 pages, 1,932 views, 103 posts, the threadstarter had not even posted a single picture for the rest to give a 3rd party perspective view on his pictures so we can encourage/discourage him from upgrading his equipment.

    Personally, I had seen ppl taking blind snapshots constantly with a DSLR or high level Prosumer which doesn't justify the purchase of such high-end equipment when a PnS will do.

    I had also seen ppl taking such stunning shots with basic level prosumer or PnS with great finese and wonderful composition that not getting a SLR system to specialise even further would be a great waste to their talent.
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    A kind word to the threadstarter! to feel proud that you got a parents don't spoil you!

    You don't need 350D to be a photographer! you need passions to take good photo!

    I can't help to use some harsh words on you because your parents is right and even you are so talented to deserve a 350D, a second hand film SLR should serve you enough since you can't affort a expensive DSLR.

    Let me make a guess how much is your handphone? $500? why don't you sell it to fund the camera if you need it?

    Simply you don't need a 350D to have passion in your 'hobby', or you will grow up as an adult that fighting your parents to get you a BMW.. and you try to explain how BMW performs better..and actually it impresses girls or people more..like DSLR DO!

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    Handphone was $0 with plan. =)

    Anyone knows where I can get refurbished Hexanon/Hexar lenses with the AR mount? I'm going down to TCW and P&G to ask for a second opinion on the Konica. My dad has agreed to pay for refurbishment of the Konica if it can be done. I guess that's good news in a way. I'd be really happy if I could shoot with the Konica.

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    Good for you!

    For me too, as an working adult, I am very tempted to buy a DSLR.....but I am still using a prosumer.

    I am going to try out the condition of a Nikon FM2, taken over from my bro yesterday....I hope the FM2 and it's lenses still work.

    Quote Originally Posted by calebk
    Handphone was $0 with plan. =)

    Anyone knows where I can get refurbished Hexanon/Hexar lenses with the AR mount? I'm going down to TCW and P&G to ask for a second opinion on the Konica. My dad has agreed to pay for refurbishment of the Konica if it can be done. I guess that's good news in a way. I'd be really happy if I could shoot with the Konica.

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    hi calebk, apologise for harsh words. your parents is good as they don't spoil you.
    Go ahead and take photo of what you can afford.

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    No worries. I believe we all get a little worked up sometimes. Any other places besides P&G and TCW that you all know off that might repair something like my dad's old Konica?

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    Good news! (Not sure if it actually is lah)

    The wonderful shopowner from P&G Camera told me repairs on the Konica are possible. The shutter will be repaired and recalibrated. He has a new lens that fits the AR mount. Only the prism coating disintegration cannot be corrected. All this for a total of $300. Is that worth it?

    The camera's kinda special to me, and I hope to use it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by calebk
    Good news! (Not sure if it actually is lah)

    The wonderful shopowner from P&G Camera told me repairs on the Konica are possible. The shutter will be repaired and recalibrated. He has a new lens that fits the AR mount. Only the prism coating disintegration cannot be corrected. All this for a total of $300. Is that worth it?

    The camera's kinda special to me, and I hope to use it.
    No its not. For $300 you can probably find a low-mid range SLR film body with a lens or two.

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    Ahh, then perhaps getting a cheap Canon film SLR and a cheap EF lens might be good in the long run?

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    Like I mention earlier on, get the camera from cage, use it.

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    Can like that take out for your own use meh? Don't even have lecturer to sign out.

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    I think you can try discussing with Mr Siew Kee Liong on this matter.

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    Heh heh, I haven't even met my photog lecturer. I'll meet him in 2 1/2 months time.

    EDIT: can anyone recommend a good, cheap EOS film body for 300 or thereabouts? Hopefully cheaper than that by a fair bit, beecause I'll need to factor in a good cheap general lens (recommendations?)
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    Does it matter what type of camera you use for your course?

    Reason why I am asking is because of this. A PnS camera with great functionality and worst sensor combination coupled together. Yet, KH can conjure up some of the most inspiring photos you can get from this camera. When I say good, I don't mean just 'clubsnap' good, I mean the 'world wide web' good, so much so that it has been documented that many have dived in to buy this camera after seeing his photos.

    I don't mean that this is a good camera to buy, but if a PnS suffices, you can always consider the Fuji F30 too, and that camera is going for high $500 with a 1GB xD card, and image quality at mid ISO range is close to DSLR quality.

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    I got my First camera when I was in Secondary school. Had to give up all my monthly allowance to pay for the stuff in instalments. Bought my first SLR when I wa in JC(same thing). All out of my own money, which does not come big!

    If you have the passion for it, save up and buy it yourself. Parents, like me have other priorities which might not help them to support your passion. Convince them and I'm sure they'll see it one day. Like my parents, they gave me my first DSLR on my 40th birthday... Its never too late man!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by calebk
    Heh heh, I haven't even met my photog lecturer. I'll meet him in 2 1/2 months time.

    EDIT: can anyone recommend a good, cheap EOS film body for 300 or thereabouts? Hopefully cheaper than that by a fair bit, beecause I'll need to factor in a good cheap general lens (recommendations?)
    For $300 (or even lower), you can probably get a very decent film SLR like EOS 30. Go check out the B&S to see if there's any on sale.

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