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    take your time bro. age doesnt matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yanyewkay
    Have you attempted to migrate with a NUS/NTU degree and found it exceptionally easy? Even though NUS is highly popular among the region I don't see how a degree from NUS will aid in your migration. It would be best if you could provide some data to substantiate your claim.

    I also don't think anyone would get into NUS just to have an easy path to migrate out.
    Quote Originally Posted by mtunlinn

    NUS among World's Top 20 Universities. NUS has been rated 18th in a new global ranking of universities by The Times of London, a highly influential national newspaper. NTU is ranked world's 48th and ranked 26th for top technologies universities.

    What u mentioned is true. What i am trying to say is that these are the only 2 universities within our reach (i mean locally) for more recognition locally and internationally. Let me replace my word "migration" for "recognition".
    All those rankings are BS.
    NUS and NTU means absolutely nothing overseas.
    Try interviewing for a job overseas other than Malaysia, with NUS on your resume,
    the interviewer always go "huh?" like it is from outer space.
    That's IF you are lucky enough to even get an interview with a degree from NUS.

    The rankings are probably more meaningful within the R&D or education circle.

    Like mtunlinn said, these universities are the ONLY ones we have
    so everyone either go these two, or go SIM

    For the OP, if you have no overseas budget, i would say just go to work,
    and if you must, get a part time degree. You already "wasted" 3 years in poly,
    with so-so grades, no point getting into full time studies again and lag behind in the
    working experience part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandyforever
    NUS and NTU means absolutely nothing overseas.
    Try interviewing for a job overseas other than Malaysia, with NUS on your resume,
    the interviewer always go "huh?" like it is from outer space.
    That's IF you are lucky enough to even get an interview with a degree from NUS.
    Agree, some of the distance learning program from those UK an australia Uni here are probably more well known than NTU and NUS.

    It is the media and the sch that make the student think that local uni are the world class

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    Maybe you would like to consider developing your own Life Plan before proceeding to do whatever you want to do with your life. Here is an article that i came cross from the net that i would like to share with whoever is starting a new career:


    Career Planning: Developing your life plan
    Many students feel the urgency to decide TODAY what they will be doing for the rest of their lives. Creating a meaningful career plan is not quite that easy. Having a profession is a journey that unfolds as you gain experience, skills and education. Where you start today, may not be where you end up twenty years from now. You may move the end point several times throughout your life and chances are your road will not be a straight shot, but a winding path of exploration and discovery. Approach the career planning process from where you are at in your life now, and know that there are no wrong decisions. Where you decide to go next will then take you to the next stop, then that stop to the next, and so on. Every experience you have is important to the one before. Your career plan is something you will start planning today, but will need to be re-evaluated and adjusted often as you gain education and experience.

    Having a plan is important. It will help you make informed decisions with an understanding of what you will need to do during each stage of your journey.

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    If you want an office job, get it.

    Your salary breaking barrier will depend on it.

    Even if you're a network engineer, with CCNA CCNP etc, a degree is inevitable.

    Part time studying requires a lot of disciplline, make sure you can do it. I did that a few years ago. Tiring, but I had my fun apart from all my salary going into studies (after giving to my parents)
    Last edited by _espn_; 9th August 2006 at 02:51 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bartman
    Maybe you would like to consider developing your own Life Plan before proceeding to do whatever you want to do with your life. Here is an article that i came cross from the net that i would like to share with whoever is starting a new career:


    Career Planning: Developing your life plan
    Many students feel the urgency to decide TODAY what they will be doing for the rest of their lives. Creating a meaningful career plan is not quite that easy. Having a profession is a journey that unfolds as you gain experience, skills and education. Where you start today, may not be where you end up twenty years from now. You may move the end point several times throughout your life and chances are your road will not be a straight shot, but a winding path of exploration and discovery. Approach the career planning process from where you are at in your life now, and know that there are no wrong decisions. Where you decide to go next will then take you to the next stop, then that stop to the next, and so on. Every experience you have is important to the one before. Your career plan is something you will start planning today, but will need to be re-evaluated and adjusted often as you gain education and experience.

    Having a plan is important. It will help you make informed decisions with an understanding of what you will need to do during each stage of your journey.
    Well said. Hope Sianzrong will appreciate this.

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    Thanks for the inputs guys, young man with vigour is about to join the working community. Hopefully not to fail haha.

    espn got kan tao work or not? =P
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    Quote Originally Posted by jekos
    Well said. Hope Sianzrong will appreciate this.
    so actually it means that we are planning to plan for another plan of planning.

    hey it works! but by planning to plan you will gain expereience through it and ultimatly create the best plan.
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    Aniway I just share abit cos I am in your this current situation.

    Dip in Engineering
    ORD in Oct 04.
    Secure a job 1 month even before I ORD.
    Selling cams for a company and I end up selling till now.

    Pay is okie. Ups and down down to commission. But theres a basic pay.
    Last yr this time, I decided to study at SIM-UOL. Bsc in Banking and Finance
    Seem like a bad choice to me probably is bcos of UOL style. 1 exam to determine your whole yr. But I choose it becos it fit nicely if i continue to work
    But the good thing is theres only lecture, 3hours a subject for 1 week. 4*subject a yr

    Everyday rush like a mad dog, 9-12noon lesson, 3-11pm work.
    Really no life man. Hv to plan your time really well. So time feel like giving up also
    No choice for me cos I quite old liao. and study more in sec sch

    Think u quite young just after ORD. If your job have an organisation ladder for you to climb, i think study later will be a better choice, such thing is always about experience. Or save enough and study later work partime. Like mine always a salesman - no rank or promotion. But pay wise still attactive cos able to spend $ on DSLR

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtunlinn View Post
    Go full time study and part time work. NUS and NTU are the best if u want to migrate in the future. But getting into NUS is not that easy though.

    Study part time and work full time? I am doing that. U can forget about any other thing if u r working 5 1/2 days a week. Working shift work (3-4 days a week, 12 hours a day) would be better if u want to study part time. It will be better to have ur own transportation.

    Institution recognition? Your first company will matter the most. Your subsequent companies will mostly see ur experience. But it still depends on the company. Some companies die die also want recognized degree holders.

    Do more research and make a right move.
    Not really, IEAust does not really recognise Singapore's education on par with Australian education... (That's if you want to migrate to Australia. You would probably not get enough points to qualify w/ local degree)
    The Washington Accord does not fully recognise Singapore's institutes as well. (Still provisional)

    Errr... by the way... you mean migrate to overseas and not to Singapore, right?
    Last edited by Hoky; 4th October 2006 at 11:01 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Autumnite View Post
    Study what u are interested in. with passion then u will be good at it. when u are good at it, money will come find u
    agrees.... I always tell my friends the same thing tho. Dun ask others what you should study? Ask yourself, what you want in future? What you wanna learn?... etc. Once you decided, then you go to find a suitable university.

    Such as, when you go shopping, you said you wanna buy a pair of shoes, but you dun know what exactly you want? With so many nice shoes in front of you, it makes you more difficult to choose. End up you bought nothing as you dun know which pairs you want. Too many choices, make the things more difficult. So set a target first before you go for anything. That`s my personal suggestion.

    All the best, dude.
    Last edited by Suekay; 4th October 2006 at 10:50 AM.

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    Yes get a degree part time since you say money is a concern

    by the way learning doesn't stop there


    i have 1 degree, 2 diplomas, handful of professional certs, and im studying for my advanced diploma and plan to get yet another pro certificate

    i really believe continuous professional development (CPD) / upgrading / learning is essential to go ahead of the pack in the new economy


    Good Luck

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    I think the most important thing is to have a positive attitude and to persevere to go for what you want to achieve.

    As with many suggestions, work and save up since finance is a concern. When you have enough money, then consider studying part or full-time.

    Be aware that if you plan to study in future, you will have a loss of income. This may deter you from moving forward. So set goals now and plan what you want to achieve. And review the gamplan from time to time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SianZronG View Post
    Just coming out of NS, so the question is to take a plunge into work with my mouldy diploma or go study full time for a degree, or alternativly should i take a part time degree while i still work.

    Money is always a concern. So my best bet is to do a part time while i work. question is what to study? I have a dip in computer engineering.

    SO lost! haha.... any suggestions from gurus out there?

    Thanks!
    I think you should, i went through the same path..

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    Quote Originally Posted by SianZronG View Post
    Just coming out of NS, so the question is to take a plunge into work with my mouldy diploma or go study full time for a degree, or alternativly should i take a part time degree while i still work.

    Money is always a concern. So my best bet is to do a part time while i work. question is what to study? I have a dip in computer engineering.

    SO lost! haha.... any suggestions from gurus out there?

    Thanks!
    You have Computer Diploma already? If u want to persue a career in IT, one option is to use the $ for degree to pay for SAP training plus certification. Don't know what is SAP? Do a search.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clicknick View Post
    You have Computer Diploma already? If u want to persue a career in IT, one option is to use the $ for degree to pay for SAP training plus certification. Don't know what is SAP? Do a search.
    Now Microsoft launching Microsoft Dynamics to fight with the ERP chieftains... like SAP...
    Need to get a MS Dynamics cert too??

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    Where do I go to get a great Education that provides information on ad Diplomas & Degree Programmes for those looking to pursue a photography education.

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    Weigh the pros and cons then decide on the best path. The govt says to ITE will even take in people without N/O levels. So, is a degree neccessary in today's society??

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