Bridal Shoot Photo -- Wedding & Courtship Dance

[Enchanted]

This is one of the bridal shoot taken in July '06 ...

The pre-wedding day bridal photoshoot session was in Singapore ...
and i hope it provides some inspiring moments ... enjoy.




©2006 Nick Goh Photography | www.nickgoh.com | infor@nickgoh.com

[josho]

Interesting.. is the girl a dancer ?

[Terence]

Omg, isn't that overdoing it a little? Quite drama the poses they are both striking... Looks a bit like the latest entry on my blog...

[zha]

Interesting.

The gal looks graceful and seems at ease 'posing' it.

[Enchanted]

Originally Posted by josho Interesting.. is the girl a dancer ?

Thank you josho ...

Yes, the bride is a dancer.

[Enchanted]

Originally Posted by Terence Omg, isn't that overdoing it a little? Quite drama the poses they are both striking... Looks a bit like the latest entry on my blog...

"Over doing it a little?" ... nah, try doing a 'swan lake poses and dance' in men suit and in Wedding Gown, you'll know what i mean ....

In fact, this shot was conceptualised. The location was specially seek-out and choosen, to create that serenity and 'dancing-over-the-lake' feel ... the weather was perfect ( cloudy and light winds ) to create the soft-light lighting over the water, as opposed to high contrast usually associated with 'water shots'....

You might want to judge the shot based on technicals, composition, post production and overall concept and creativity ...

[Enchanted]

Originally Posted by zha Interesting. The gal looks graceful and seems at ease 'posing' it.

Zha, thank you for your observation ...

Yes, the bride is indeed one of the graceful bride that i have shot to date, not to mentioned a talented one, too ... the couple is easy to work with, so getting the bridal shots were quite smooth, free-flowing and enjoyable ...

Hope you like it, too

[Enchanted]

Hi All,

Thank you for viewing ...

[Terence]

Originally Posted by Enchanted "Over doing it a little?" ... nah, try doing a 'swan lake poses and dance' in men suit and in Wedding Gown, you'll know what i mean .... In fact, this shot was conceptualised. The location was specially seek-out and choosen, to create that serenity and 'dancing-over-the-lake' feel ... the weather was perfect ( cloudy and light winds ) to create the soft-light lighting over the water, as opposed to high contrast usually associated with 'water shots'.... You might want to judge the shot based on technicals, composition, post production and overall concept and creativity ...

I guess that may seem so to some who view the shot but it doesn't quite work for me. Perhpas it's just my disdain towards bridals shoots getting in the way here. I go for the more toned down and muted look but hey, that's just me and how I feel a wedding should be portrayed.

[TrailsofLife]

i think if it works for the couple, for example, they met in a dance or they are both amatuer dancers or they work as dancers, then it worked for me.

Its a emotional baggage. Meaning this shot may mean something to the couple.

Nicely shot, by the way.

[MMDeveloper]

The concept is good but they seem "You pose yours, I pose mine". There are no connectitives between the two of them. It will be great if the groom shifts a little bit to his right.

[Enchanted]

Originally Posted by Max 2.8 i think if it works for the couple, for example, they met in a dance or they are both amatuer dancers or they work as dancers, then it worked for me. Its a emotional baggage. Meaning this shot may mean something to the couple. Nicely shot, by the way.

Thank you ... Max

[Enchanted]

Originally Posted by MMDeveloper The concept is good but they seem "You pose yours, I pose mine". There are no connectitives between the two of them. It will be great if the groom shifts a little bit to his right.

MMD, ... thank you for your kind input ... comment noted.

[dDarkroom]

the motion blur effect should be constrained more to the subjects. the floor or wooden plank is a tag over ps. Unless you do a global soft effect on the pic.

[josho]

Originally Posted by Enchanted Thank you josho ... Yes, the bride is a dancer.

Oh.. because she look gracefully at her 'pose' natural.

[luddock]

Hi,

I noticed in your website that you made a deliberate mention about hiring freelancers for wedding engagements, in fact there was a whole page dedicated to explaining why couples should not even consider freelancers.

http://www.nickgoh.com/6_Class_of_Wedding_Photogs.html

I do see some pretty bad work coming out of freelance photographers but then again, there are a lot of talented part time photographers who engage in this sort of work for some extra cash. While I would personally recommend that couples seek out a pro or semi-pro for wedding photography, I don't think it's necessary to demean the freelance photographers as you chose to do on your site.

In fact I've seen some freelance work which looks more appealing than your images posted on your site. You seem a bit careless with choosing your backgrounds. There are loads of distracting elements (lamp post sticking out of bride's head, strangers milling about in the back etc). I'm just giving my honest views here and hope to balance out this discussion on the thread. Sometimes others tend not to say much when they don't think the images posted are up to scratch. While the majority who have posted on this thread seem to think the courship image is "nice", there are others who think otherwise and I feel it's important to let you know that. I personally think it's a bit unnatural and deliberately posed. But it's your style, judging from what I've seen on the rest of your portfolio... just not my cup of tea.

Give the freelancers a chance...

[Enchanted]

Originally Posted by luddock Hi, I noticed in your website that you made a deliberate mention about hiring freelancers for wedding engagements, in fact there was a whole page dedicated to explaining why couples should not even consider freelancers. http://www.nickgoh.com/6_Class_of_Wedding_Photogs.html I do see some pretty bad work coming out of freelance photographers but then again, there are a lot of talented part time photographers who engage in this sort of work for some extra cash. While I would personally recommend that couples seek out a pro or semi-pro for wedding photography, I don't think it's necessary to demean the freelance photographers as you chose to do on your site. In fact I've seen some freelance work which looks more appealing than your images posted on your site. You seem a bit careless with choosing your backgrounds. There are loads of distracting elements (lamp post sticking out of bride's head, strangers milling about in the back etc). I'm just giving my honest views here and hope to balance out this discussion on the thread. Sometimes others tend not to say much when they don't think the images posted are up to scratch. While the majority who have posted on this thread seem to think the courship image is "nice", there are others who think otherwise and I feel it's important to let you know that. I personally think it's a bit unnatural and deliberately posed. But it's your style, judging from what I've seen on the rest of your portfolio... just not my cup of tea. Give the freelancers a chance...

First, i would thank you for your honest and personal view on my works ... i respect you for that.
However, i think let the market ( wedding & bridal couples ) decide who are the suitable ones for their needs, or the their best money could buy.

I guess each professional career photogs whom are players in the market, are aware of their own strength and strategy. If one's work are "sucky" or "not-up-to-your-standard", then that Pro will not last long, as the market dynamics will forced him/her out ... ( unless he is loaded with reserved fund, and doing the jobs are his passions, and money mean little to him/her ). As that being said, i believe that true Professionals are a hardy lots, and they must be really something good, in order to survive and prosper, and to be worth their salt.

Second, i believe that the articles that i wrote, in anywhere did i mentioned about the relevance or meaning :

"Freelance Photogs = Poor Quality Work" or " Pro Photogs = High Quality works"

There is NO co-relationship between Freelance Photogs and their outputs, nor Pro Photogs equals to Higher Quality outputs, etc. You must have been mistaken or under the wrong impression on such interpretation.

BTW, do you know that there are Pros whose works are "so-so", but they excel in other areas that they command a premium for their services ? ... so what's that got to do with Quality Works and such ?


Third, my target market are brides and grooms ( to-be-wed ) and i'll be speaking their "language" and selling them, a "wedding dreams and fantasies" ... i have really no time in entertaining "small minds", non-clients and wannabes ( excuse me if i sounded crude and direct ). Whether One is good in wedding journalism, arts and illustrations, it's either you like it or not, and you could always find somebody "better", if you have an option.

Being a full-time career Professional has it pro and cons, it's scarifies and commitment, it's pains and frustration, it's rewards and honour. So, unless you've been there, done it, you'll know ... if not, don't demean Pros who did their time in giving and contributions.


Forth, "Giving Freelance a chance ?" ... hmmmm ... it's not me to decide, it's the market ( your clients ) that decides whether you are given that opportunity. Everybody, whether Pros or part-time freelancers, are Master of their own destiny -- You create chances, you don't wait or expect chances --- that my word for you.

Well wishes always,
Nick Goh

[Enchanted]

Originally Posted by dDarkroom the motion blur effect should be constrained more to the subjects. the floor or wooden plank is a tag over ps. Unless you do a global soft effect on the pic.

dDarkroom,

Yup, i know what you mean ... maybe a global soft-effect would be good
... appreciate it !

BTW, are you in the graphic imaging industry ? ...

[ellery]

NickIt could be a digital artificate - there is a light sepia cast over most parts of the image save for a section of the gown which appears white. This for me gives me the impression that the gown is a little grubby. The color cast does not seem to complement the mood effect which is supposed to be reach in joy... at least the girl is doing that. Maybe a blue wash tone would be better for a dreamy fantasy look. The groom is not a dancer - that's tough since he looks a lilttle lost here. Was this meant to be a fantasy theme shoot ?Posed candids are tough to pull off. Unless you got a couple who are both actors, or dancers then its a walk in the park, since they do want they do naturally if pointed in right direction leaving the photog to do what he does best instead of having to juggle several tasks while looking for the right moment to click.

[luddock]

Originally Posted by Enchanted First, i would thank you for your honest and personal view on my works ... i respect you for that. However, i think let the market ( wedding & bridal couples ) decide who are the suitable ones for their needs, or the their best money could buy. I guess each professional career photogs whom are players in the market, are aware of their own strength and strategy. If one's work are "sucky" or "not-up-to-your-standard", then that Pro will not last long, as the market dynamics will forced him/her out ... ( unless he is loaded with reserved fund, and doing the jobs are his passions, and money mean little to him/her ). As that being said, i believe that true Professionals are a hardy lots, and they must be really something good, in order to survive and prosper, and to be worth their salt. Second, i believe that the articles that i wrote, in anywhere did i mentioned about the relevance or meaning : "Freelance Photogs = Poor Quality Work" or " Pro Photogs = High Quality works" There is NO co-relationship between Freelance Photogs and their outputs, nor Pro Photogs equals to Higher Quality outputs, etc. You must have been mistaken or under the wrong impression on such interpretation. BTW, do you know that there are Pros whose works are "so-so", but they excel in other areas that they command a premium for their services ? ... so what's that got to do with Quality Works and such ? Third, my target market are brides and grooms ( to-be-wed ) and i'll be speaking their "language" and selling them, a "wedding dreams and fantasies" ... i have really no time in entertaining "small minds", non-clients and wannabes ( excuse me if i sounded crude and direct ). Whether One is good in wedding journalism, arts and illustrations, it's either you like it or not, and you could always find somebody "better", if you have an option. Being a full-time career Professional has it pro and cons, it's scarifies and commitment, it's pains and frustration, it's rewards and honour. So, unless you've been there, done it, you'll know ... if not, don't demean Pros who did their time in giving and contributions. Forth, "Giving Freelance a chance ?" ... hmmmm ... it's not me to decide, it's the market ( your clients ) that decides whether you are given that opportunity. Everybody, whether Pros or part-time freelancers, are Master of their own destiny -- You create chances, you don't wait or expect chances --- that my word for you.

You know something? You talk like how you photograph... a bit OTT and dramatic, with a tinge of arrogance.

I suppose to summise what I said... don't put down the freelancers like the way you do... that's what I meant by "giving freelancers a chance".

Nuff said, i suppose there are couples out there don't mind mediocrity, that's why you're still in business.

Peace...