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    The freeware noiseware is just superb dude. No complaints!

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    Just wanna add to some of the questions already answered, I do face some noise problems too on my D70. While shooting in ISO200 produces almost no noise, sometimes it is not adequate. I tried using Neat Image (freeware trial version), the results in reducing noise is good but the downside of it, it smoothens a lot of things (like the subject's face). Sometimes, the result looks so doll-like, which is something I want to avoid.

    Any better ideas to reduce noise other than this?
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    ISO200 still need to reduce noise?

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    Yah loh, ISO 200 still not good enough? So strict leh.

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    ISO200 still need to reduce noise?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lastboltnut
    Yah loh, ISO 200 still not good enough? So strict leh.
    Sorry for not making myself clearer. To explain my statement, try imagine the following scenario:

    • You are in an exhibition
    • There are many people
    • You are standing behind a hugh horde of people trying to photograph a model
    • You are equipped with a long zoom lens that maximum aperture only reaches F6.3 at 200mm
    • Your flash just ran out of batteries


    I hope the above scenario explains why I say ISO200 is inadequate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeckson Chow
    Sorry for not making myself clearer. To explain my statement, try imagine the following scenario:

    • You are in an exhibition
    • There are many people
    • You are standing behind a hugh horde of people trying to photograph a model
    • You are equipped with a long zoom lens that maximum aperture only reaches F6.3 at 200mm
    • Your flash just ran out of batteries


    I hope the above scenario explains why I say ISO200 is inadequate.
    at 200mm if you're saying you're sufficiently far back,at f/6.3, i doubt even with a flash will do any good without a flash extender, else your flash will just be firing full blast everytime. I thought you were a constant f/2.8 lens person?

    EDIT: I still don't see why you say ISO200 is noisy from your above scenario.
    If the exhibition is outdoor ISO200 wun be a problem if in strong afternoon sun at f/6.3, what's wrong?
    If indoor with only weak ceiling fluo tubes, why are you still trying to use ISO200.
    why you find ISO200 noisy? what's it got to do with exhibition,200mm f/6.3 and no flash?
    Maybe a picture will be better at explaining.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yanyewkay
    at 200mm if you're saying you're sufficiently far back,at f/6.3, i doubt even with a flash will do any good without a flash extender, else your flash will just be firing full blast everytime. I thought you were a constant f/2.8 lens person?

    EDIT: I still don't see why you say ISO200 is noisy from your above scenario.
    If the exhibition is outdoor ISO200 wun be a problem if in strong afternoon sun at f/6.3, what's wrong?
    If indoor with only weak ceiling fluo tubes, why are you still trying to use ISO200.
    why you find ISO200 noisy? what's it got to do with exhibition,200mm f/6.3 and no flash?
    Maybe a picture will be better at explaining.
    Ha ha ha ha. No no, in exhibition halls, I will have to pump up the ISO to at least 1000 or higher. That's where I say ISO200 isn't adequate because you will get dark pictures every time. But having high ISOs, you will also have noise. This is my challenge.

    No lah, I am not always using F2.8 lah. F2.8 isn't everything you know?
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    zeck you need to train your arms for proper hand holding technique
    so that you do not need to use high iso speeds

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    I'm a bit confused now..

    i show you CCTV... first you say ISO200 not clean enough, so you used neat image
    Quote Originally Posted by Zeckson Chow
    ... While shooting in ISO200 produces almost no noise, sometimes it is not adequate. I tried using Neat Image ...
    then you say ISO200 not enough, need to up ISO...
    Quote Originally Posted by Zeckson Chow
    ... in exhibition halls, I will have to pump up the ISO to at least 1000 or higher. That's where I say ISO200 isn't adequate because you will get dark pictures every time. But having high ISOs, you will also have noise. ...
    so your 'inadequate' refer to inadequate clean or inadequate bright? so confusing

    must exprain.. why why why
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    perhaps he means that iso200 is inadequate so he has to up to like, iso1000 and above.. thus the need for noise reduction?
    tho his statement is rather vague..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ortega
    zeck you need to train your arms for proper hand holding technique
    so that you do not need to use high iso speeds
    Wah... With the crowd pushing and stepping on toes, I don't think this technique works well there leh... Hee hee hee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeckson Chow
    Just wanna add to some of the questions already answered, I do face some noise problems too on my D70. While shooting in ISO200 produces almost no noise, sometimes it is not adequate. I tried using Neat Image (freeware trial version), the results in reducing noise is good but the downside of it, it smoothens a lot of things (like the subject's face). Sometimes, the result looks so doll-like, which is something I want to avoid.

    Any better ideas to reduce noise other than this?
    Aw... Alamak... Very vague meh? Maybe lor. Wah, I must spell out everything clearly on the table on ah? Don't like that leh, don't torture me leh. You guys know what I mean lah, don't pretend. Ha ha ha ha.

    So how? Any "solutions" to this? Or really must go like what Catchlights say, carry tons of strobes there... Ha ha ha ha!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeckson Chow
    Wah... With the crowd pushing and stepping on toes, I don't think this technique works well there leh... Hee hee hee.
    then bring monopod and wack ppl lor

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeckson Chow
    Aw... Alamak... Very vague meh? Maybe lor. Wah, I must spell out everything clearly on the table on ah? Don't like that leh, don't torture me leh. You guys know what I mean lah, don't pretend. Ha ha ha ha.

    So how? Any "solutions" to this? Or really must go like what Catchlights say, carry tons of strobes there... Ha ha ha ha!

    By the way, any idea when the Mr Brown movie going to come out?
    1st you must understand the science of taking pic in a congested situation;
    then you must apply your undersatnding to produe the art

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    Quote Originally Posted by ortega
    then bring monopod and wack ppl lor
    Bring ladder or cherry picker also can.
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    Hi ortega, do you mean pratise for a steady hand then can use longer exposure shutter timing so no need to push up ISO?

    Quote Originally Posted by ortega
    zeck you need to train your arms for proper hand holding technique
    so that you do not need to use high iso speeds

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    Quote Originally Posted by dDarkroom
    1st you must understand the science of taking pic in a congested situation;
    then you must apply your undersatnding to produe the art
    Mmm... Good idea! I don't know. I not sure. Can you teach me?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeckson Chow
    Just wanna add to some of the questions already answered, I do face some noise problems too on my D70. While shooting in ISO200 produces almost no noise, sometimes it is not adequate. I tried using Neat Image (freeware trial version), the results in reducing noise is good but the downside of it, it smoothens a lot of things (like the subject's face). Sometimes, the result looks so doll-like, which is something I want to avoid.

    Any better ideas to reduce noise other than this?
    Then it's obvious your exposure and post processing skills is causing the noise to be more obvious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _espn_
    Then it's obvious your exposure and post processing skills is causing the noise to be more obvious.

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    Okay. Thanks for your observation. Can you also share with me how I should be rectifying this problem?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeckson Chow
    Mmm... Good idea! I don't know. I not sure. Can you teach me?
    can but you are in bangkok.

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