RE: Sigma 70-300mm APO Macro or Minolta AF 75-300mm

elcap · 26th June 2006

Hi,
I am looking for an lens for action photography that do not allow usage of flash. Which is a better len to get. I will need the range of up to 300mm as I am taking action occurring 20m off the ground with me standing 20m away from it. Please don't ask me to get 70-200mm F2.8 and 300mm F2.8 as it is beyond my budget. Or anyone can suggest any alternative lens.
Thanks

rTwin · 26th June 2006

hmm maybe one of these lenses here..

the sigma shld be pretty alright, as long as the lighting conditions are good.. not sure about the km.. nv used it before.. i think it shld be about the same

GENO · 26th June 2006

KM 75-300mm..cheap and good..

eow · 26th June 2006

KM 75-300mm..sharp and nice bokeh too

dr34mc4st3r · 27th June 2006

Originally Posted by elcap

Hi,
I am looking for an lens for action photography that do not allow usage of flash. Which is a better len to get. I will need the range of up to 300mm as I am taking action occurring 20m off the ground with me standing 20m away from it. Please don't ask me to get 70-200mm F2.8 and 300mm F2.8 as it is beyond my budget. Or anyone can suggest any alternative lens.
Thanks

sorry for shameless self-plug, but if u r looking for one 75-300 now, i got one for sale on B&S clubsnap...need to make way for beercan

tankm · 27th June 2006

Few questions to clarify:
1. What type of action photography ?
2. Indoor or outdoor and lighting condition ?
3. Are you willing to use high ISO with noise trade-off ?

Both lens may not suit your need at all based on your answer above.

Originally Posted by elcap

Hi,
I am looking for an lens for action photography that do not allow usage of flash. Which is a better len to get. I will need the range of up to 300mm as I am taking action occurring 20m off the ground with me standing 20m away from it. Please don't ask me to get 70-200mm F2.8 and 300mm F2.8 as it is beyond my budget. Or anyone can suggest any alternative lens.
Thanks

Del_CtrlnoAlt · 27th June 2006

Originally Posted by dr34mc4st3r

sorry for shameless self-plug, but if u r looking for one 75-300 now, i got one for sale on B&S clubsnap...need to make way for beercan

as usual...

Del_CtrlnoAlt · 27th June 2006

Originally Posted by tankm

Few questions to clarify:
1. What type of action photography ?
2. Indoor or outdoor and lighting condition ?
3. Are you willing to use high ISO with noise trade-off ?

Both lens may not suit your need at all based on your answer above.

depends...

if its outdoor, and a bright day light, i think its still workable at iso 400 or 800.

eow · 27th June 2006

it much cheaper than those big aperture lens an d with extra reach at 300mm
imo one of the most underated lens....someone in dpreview had compared it favourably against the beercan if i remember correctly.

Del_CtrlnoAlt · 27th June 2006

Originally Posted by eow

it much cheaper than those big aperture lens an d with extra reach at 300mm
imo one of the most underated lens....someone in dpreview had compared it favourably against the beercan if i remember correctly.

oh ya... minolta got D, sigma no D...

elcap · 27th June 2006

I am thinking of shooting sports climbing indoors with lumination from ambient light. It is not fast action as in basketball but lights generally comes from ceiling lights which is not very bright.

eow · 27th June 2006

Originally Posted by elcap

I am thinking of shooting indoors with lumination from ambient light.

like that u got to use those f2.8 lens liao....

TME · 27th June 2006

Originally Posted by elcap

I am thinking of shooting sports climbing indoors with lumination from ambient light. It is not fast action as in basketball but lights generally comes from ceiling lights which is not very bright.

Can be done... even at f/5.6 especially not fast moving... u need to look for brighter high contrast areas to focus... DOF for f/5.6 is not too bad so can easily focus at similar distance but high contrast object and then recompose or refocus... should get a decent lock.

tankm · 28th June 2006

Ambient light with a f5.6 lens, most likely will have to use ISO800 or even 1600/3200. Even though it's not a fast sport, but there is still constant movement of the climber. Another issue will be to lock AF quickly at f5.6 with ambient light.

Originally Posted by elcap

I am thinking of shooting sports climbing indoors with lumination from ambient light. It is not fast action as in basketball but lights generally comes from ceiling lights which is not very bright.

looka · 28th June 2006

Originally Posted by elcap

Hi,
I am looking for an lens for action photography that do not allow usage of flash. Which is a better len to get. I will need the range of up to 300mm as I am taking action occurring 20m off the ground with me standing 20m away from it. Please don't ask me to get 70-200mm F2.8 and 300mm F2.8 as it is beyond my budget. Or anyone can suggest any alternative lens.
Thanks

I did not have experience on Sigma but on Konicaminolta one. From what I had read from Internet, both perform about the same. You may need to switch to manual focus for fast moving subjects. The KM version is cheaper, great for its price, lighter and slightly better bokeh. Sigma is better on marco and 300mm. KM at 300mm lost it contrast compare to at 200mm and Sigma lost its sharpness compare to KM.

The better Lens on budget is Konicaminolta AF 100-300 APO (D or not) is very good. It focus faster than 75-300 only some complaint about not performing under low light condition.

cloudyew · 28th June 2006

KM 75-300 u all mean is f4.5-5.6???
how boit 70-210 f3.5-4.5 or f4.5-5.6????

GENO · 28th June 2006

Originally Posted by cloudyew

KM 75-300 u all mean is f4.5-5.6???
how boit 70-210 f3.5-4.5 or f4.5-5.6????

at the maximum zoom, 300mm is better then 200mm right ? since both will be at f5.6, i rather use a 300mm.

26th June 2006	#1
elcap Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 134	RE: Sigma 70-300mm APO Macro or Minolta AF 75-300mm Hi, I am looking for an lens for action photography that do not allow usage of flash. Which is a better len to get. I will need the range of up to 300mm as I am taking action occurring 20m off the ground with me standing 20m away from it. Please don't ask me to get 70-200mm F2.8 and 300mm F2.8 as it is beyond my budget. Or anyone can suggest any alternative lens. Thanks

26th June 2006	#2
rTwin Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Smackdown Boulevard Posts: 291	Re: Sigma 70-300mm APO Macro or Minolta AF 75-300mm hmm maybe one of these lenses here.. the sigma shld be pretty alright, as long as the lighting conditions are good.. not sure about the km.. nv used it before.. i think it shld be about the same __________________ rated r(A) km 5d

26th June 2006	#3
GENO Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Teddy Bear Land Posts: 2,859	Re: Sigma 70-300mm APO Macro or Minolta AF 75-300mm KM 75-300mm..cheap and good.. __________________ Take both its legs down first, then cuts its tail, next is shoot between its eyes:devil:

26th June 2006	#4
eow Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 8,499	Re: Sigma 70-300mm APO Macro or Minolta AF 75-300mm KM 75-300mm..sharp and nice bokeh too __________________ 头可断，血可流,倩女不可不追求 carpe diem,when in doubt, hoot first,apologise later:p GALLERY Last edited by eow; 27th June 2006 at 07:54 AM.

27th June 2006	#9
eow Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 8,499	Re: Sigma 70-300mm APO Macro or Minolta AF 75-300mm it much cheaper than those big aperture lens an d with extra reach at 300mm imo one of the most underated lens....someone in dpreview had compared it favourably against the beercan if i remember correctly. __________________ 头可断，血可流,倩女不可不追求 carpe diem,when in doubt, hoot first,apologise later:p GALLERY

28th June 2006	#16
cloudyew New Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 37	Re: Sigma 70-300mm APO Macro or Minolta AF 75-300mm KM 75-300 u all mean is f4.5-5.6??? how boit 70-210 f3.5-4.5 or f4.5-5.6????